The comments are not wickedness, but it looks more of a tuned car than a car right from factory. The most exotics colors were not that flashy, not that Orange/Red pearl color.
The lights you chosed looks aftermarket too.
The comments are not wickedness, but it looks more of a tuned car than a car right from factory. The most exotics colors were not that flashy, not that Orange/Red pearl color.
The lights you chosed looks aftermarket too.
I understand. I was hoping that being the 1990ās, aged 22, and buying their first sports car, they would pick something a bit more āloudā and immature
Other used banned?
The colour looked a bit 2003-ishā¦ I remember orange pearls had somewhat of a popularity back then. Out of place on a standard car in 1995, however, most cars are available in different colours so to be honest I donāt think that colour should have anything to do with which car that wins the roundā¦
What?
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Weāre more than 72 hours past entries closing, so, uh, do we have to enforce
This is a rule. One we donāt like enforcing, but one that weāve had to resort to 2 or 3 times in the past. Itās never good when this happens, so, please respond ASAP.
To be fair, the forum downtimes might have messed up his planning with other obligations, but an explanatory note would be nice.
I also expected considerable delays in announcing the final results due to unexpected server downtime, but this is really pushing it. Iām still hopeful about this round being concluded satisfactorily, though.
For this deliberation, Thomas and Frank went to differents car seller to try every cars.
(Consider Thomas is talking to Frank after every test)
Frank came with his new Sakurada Elea Sport.
Frank: " Letās go! "
Thomas: " Well, Iām not really conviced by this one. When you look closer, the side looks strange, the 2 stripes doesnāt have the same length, and the curve of the stripe is very square. The front looks good but the rear look a bit too much late 80ās, too square. For the performance, I didnāt feel the sportiness of the car. Even if itās light, itās not fun as it should be. "
(Sportiness is at 27.1, and the minimum was at 30.)
Sadly, we do not keep this one.
Thomas: " I would have thought that the engine would be too big for the size of the car and that it would weigh, but not at all! The car is fun as hell! The design works very well for me, I love this double mid exhaust! "
Letās keep this one!
Thomas: " Haha, the famous car named as my catās food name! Well I have to admit, the design is a beautiful/10, specially this rear, heās awesome.
But this powerā¦ This is so much power, and all the 360 Nm of torque comes suddenly at 3300 RPM! This engine is too much for me, too extreme. "
Sadly, we do not keep this one.
Thomas: " I was amazed of this one. The smoothness of the turbo is incredible, but the torque and the power are only available after 4500 RPM. Thatās not a problem, but I had to notice it. And yeah 1300kg is a bit heavy, but the engine is ok. The design, hmmm. I really hate the color, but I think itās available in another color. The front grill fell empty and must be painted in black, or just a basic platic colour. The rear feel strange too, the strip up the tailights is a weird thing. Overall, the design needs more sportiness in my opinion. "
Sadly, we do not keep this one.
Thomas: " The Dotai Fuga 2.2ā¦ 160hp is good, but itās a bit soft for a 2.2L. Anyway the drivability amazed me for a big car like this, no doubt itās a real sportscar, and with a multilink rear suspension please!
But when I got out of the car, Iāve remembered the designā¦ Honestly, the front is full of details, but these frontlightsā¦I donāt like them. The rear isnāt bad, but not exceptionnal. "
Sadly, we do not keep this one.
Thomas: " The Xenus TS 16V! I have to say I loved it! It looks amazing, the only thing I donāt like on the car is the rear badging, a bit too big. But the overall look works very well!
And the test drive? It was really cool. I wouldnāt expect this drivability and fun for the 1222kg of the coupe but the double wishbone does the work, and the 2.0L is never empty. I really liked this one! "
Letās keep this one!
Thomas: " I donāt know what to say about this one. Sheās just P.E.R.F.E.C.T. Looks so good, itās full of little details, and look at these front lights! The rear is good too, but not as nice as the front.
The test drive was a part of fun. It maybe produce 136hp but itās enough for the 1053kg. On the other hand, the engine is bit too empty after ~7000RPM but this is not so bad anyway. "
Letās keep this one!
Thomas: " The sister of the Znorndā¦Znorprkā¦The car we just tested before! Did I said the Zeta was perfect? No the perfect car would be a mix of the two cars. I canāt say already which one I prefer, they are both looking so cool!
I didnāt find any differences at the driving experience. The engine feel the same, even if the seller told me this one was the 1700-135 CE, and the Zeta just the 1700-135. "
Letās keep this one!
Thomas: " Letās continue with the mid engine! This one looks good too. The test drive wasā¦ Well the 2.7L of 240hp makes it a GT. Itās sporty, the drivability is nice and the inline 6 is very powerfulā¦
But look at these tires, they are way too large, I donāt want to have to change them.
Itās a good car yeah, but thatās not what Iām looking forā¦ "
Sadly, we do not keep this one.
Thomas: " The mid engine session isnāt finished yet haha. And this one is amazing! I love the front, and the side stripes are interesting. However, the rear isnāt as good as the rest, but itās not bad at all.
The test drive was really fun, the car is light and the almost 170 hp are enough to have fun! And the sound of the V6. Even if 2.2 is a bit big, itās not so big for a V6. It is a pure pleasure to drive! "
Letās keep this one!
Thomas: "Iāll never forget the first drive of this car. The engine is A.M.A.Z.I.N.G. 9k RPM of pure fun, itās hyper light, and hyper fun! Even if there is nothing under 6k RPM, itās way too fun. And what an idea to go under 6K RPM?
However, Iām not convinced by the designā¦ The rear definetly doesnāt works for meā¦And the front isnāt bad at all, but the frontlights are too weirdā¦ I donāt think itās a car for me, Itās a pity because I love the engineā¦ "
Sadly, we do not keep this one.
Thomas: " Again, a 2.2L, and not very powerful for a 2.2L. But itās enough for 1200kg, even if I would prefer a bit more than 154hp. Anyway, Itās very nice to drive, and it felt more comfortable than any of the other cars until now, thatās a good point.
Letās talk about the look. Do I like it? Hmmm I wouldnāt say that. I love it! One of the best looking of the list for sure! "
Letās keep this one!
Thomas: " Another Mid engine! I have to admit, this is the one I liked the least of the Mid engine cars of the list. The overall look isnāt bad but it is basic.
Otherwise, the engine is really cool. A small V6 of 142 hp is very a cool thingā¦ But the rear wheels are so large, too large. And the camber is excessive for a small sports car like this, I must be able to assume the maintenance of the car after buying itā¦ "
Sadly, we do not keep this one.
Thomas: " This one is looks japanese on the front. My impression of the test drive? The engine kicks in with taht turbo, but itās not scary because all this power in on the front! The engine is powerful enough for the 1200 kg of the car, so thatās a good point.
The design is cool for sure, but it does not breathe sportiness, except the double exhaust and the bonet extention, nothing says itās sporty. I would like it with a more details on the design, with things like a front lip. "
Sadly, we do not keep this one.
Thomas: " This one is the most funny looking car of the list! I love the front looks cute and the rear is all the same. I like it.
Itās light, but the engine ecounter issues for me. Only 126hp for an 1.8L, I would prefer a smaller engine with that power, it would save weight, but thatās not what annoyed me there. The torque curve progression is strange, it make a small hole, and I felt it when I drove it. "
Sadly, we do not keep this one.
Thomas: " Oh yeah, a big 2.5L V6 of 210 HP. Even with the 1200kg, you feel all the HP with this engine. Strangely, itās a RWD, I thought with that look it was a FWD, but itās not a bad surprise, I prefer that than the opposite haha!
Iām more concerned by the design of this one. It looks good but empty, I donāt know what but for sure itās missing something on the front and the rear tooā¦ Maybe a license plate socketā¦"
Sadly, we do not keep this one.
Thomas: " Wow, the inline 6 is big, and you feel it! Strangely for a 3.0L I6, the torque isnāt linear, not as much as an I6 should be. itās heavy but itās offset by the 200hp of the engine.
The design isā¦Well, to be fair, I love the front, I looks like a classy german sportscar, but the rear is not good as the front is. Really not, The lights doesnāt works for me, and the badging is enormous, and I think itās missing details on the rear bumper. "
Sadly, we do not keep this one.
Sorry for the delay, but the forum downtimes was at the worst moment, the week end and the monday, the moment when I had all the time to write this review. I said it on the discord but I know itās not a good plateforme to write a permanent message to warn everybody, but I didnāt had so much time to go on the forum. Iām sorry that Iām not home during the day, and yesterday I was not at home during the day and night soā¦ I wrote the end of this (I had already started), just in one hour, I already have to go outside. Iāll try to write the final verdict this evening when Iāll be back, or tomorrow at the latest (itās actually 17h50 in my country). If itās too long for you, feel free to stop this CSR and begin another one, I would understand the decision.
Your verdicts on the remaining cars was well worth the wait! And I am definitely going to hold out for your announcement of the final results for this round.
Thomas and Frank (FranƧois, non?) would have liked the Type-A, but that was outside of budget.
The front lights were mid-nighties Prelude inspired. The rear is simply standard nineties, IMO.
Thatās not a critique, I must stress. Love the general write-up. Am a serious fan of 4 of the designs that went on to the next round.
While I wasnāt expecting to go that far, I will note this is the first time I was binned because of a missing license plate socket.
Thatās likely an exaggeration, but I think itās worth reflecting that sometimes we reach a stage where whatās really being rewarded is the tendency to go into extreme detail. This isnāt a bad thing, especially as it is undeniable that when itās done right there is an immediate reaction. But we have to be mindful of the underlying feeling that a lot of people have that things like this can become like a glitzy Photoshop competition.
I agree that a few details would have improved my design, had I more time. Specific touches with certain vents and windscreen washers and a properly placed antenna would not have gone amiss. But given the body, not a number plate (I invite you to try). And much more than that, and it would cease to look like a mid 90s car.
No you didnāt got binned because of the licence plate, that just a detail I noticed to add some consistency to the dialogue, I just found that the overall design was too simple. But the judgment is of course not objective, itās all about taste, and I have to make choices.
And if the CSR was hosted by someone else, the results wouldnāt be the same.
But yes, lots of thing is about small details, It takes lot of time to make, but these details make the difference on a design.
Keep in mind that I had to do choices, your design isnāt bad for sure!
To be fair I reworked it by curiosity because I found your front was really interesting.
Of course, donāt worry, I am not objecting to being binned at all
PMI likes your design bureauās suggestion and will keep in mind for the next update (it does look more late 90s now).
The grill hole grill bug is since the last update, yeah, I know.
too simple
I understand where this is coming from. This isnāt an issue with this round alone, but in general. The problem in judging aesthetics in this game is that people donāt apply consistent judgements because a lot of it is based on perceived effort āin styling the body that is already providedā. Which isnāt how it works in real life at all.
While thereās something to be said about three fixture chumps and simply failing to make something cohesive, if people arenāt vigilant about how we go about this, the ābeauty contestā will be something more akin to throwing period correct out the door and making everything look like a supercar or at the very least some kind of stage 3 riced up bodykit from NFS Underground.
Thatās one way of looking at it. Plus, it seems like some of the ones that moved on werenāt, shall we say, period correct. The mid 90ās was a hodge podge of blah left over from the 80ās, with a lot of carved soap bars coming onto the market to replace them. Very little exciting about 90ās cars, even sporty ones, if you exclude exotics. I got my driverās license in '94. High school sophomore at the time. Wanna know what the coolest, best looking new sports car/coupe was then?
The Chevy Camaro.
Thatās a low freaking bar.
THIS is something that gets me. Fine, I get instabinned for aesthetics, which I can deal with. I know mine are very hit and miss. But for THIS particular entry to NOT get instabinned in round 1? When it didnāt meet the minimum specifications? Thatās a slap in the face to those who worked their asses off to actually meet your demanded specs. Someone who DID turn in enough work to go on to round 2 didnāt because you made room for a car that didnāt meet your numeric minimums.