FAAL - LCV3 Run: 1979-1992 FAAL Stemma & Foreia

[Knightophonix]

1965: Facelifts all around!

Alright back in the past. FAAL Decided, in 1965, that all of their cars should now run on unleaded fuel.
So they took all of their current engines, and reworked their heads to make it work and ta-da! With the update, some engines even gained some power, while still running on lower octane!
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But it wasn’t enough. They could do more. Their Plebia was still relatively up to date design wise, but needed some kind of refreshing. The Foreia? Oh. Could use that too.

Either way, 1965 is the year FAAL released the facelifts of the MK2 Plebia and the MK2 Foreia.

Plebia II Facelift:

WHAT CHANGED:
On all models, wider fenders to accomodate for wider tires, that are now radial all around instead of cross ply. New grilles, more solid, with vertical bars to support the horizontal bars that had a tendency to break easily. Off with the ugly external rear license plate lights, they’re now flush under a chrome bar above the license plate. The new FAAL Deer logo is now used instead of the F A A L writing.

Plebia 81:
All the trim pieces and bumpers are now plastic. New sets of colours available (pictured above: Blanc Banquise)
The 123P8Ce becomes the 123P8CeU and gains only 1hp in the process (31hp@4800 instead of 30hp@4500, torque unchanged, 54nm@2500 instead of 2700), but the car is more efficient (8.1l/100 instead of 8.9).

Plebia 101M:
All the tim pieces go from bare metal AND chrome to only bare metal. The grille centers goes body coloured. The hubcaps are still bare metal.
Three points seatbelts.
The 123P10Ce engine goes 123P10CeU and gains a higher redline (5600rpm instead of 5200) and more efficiency, but the power figures stay the same with 37hp and 69nm. Fuel consumption goes from 9.7l/100 to 9.1l/100. Performance unchanged.

Plebia 101L:

Chrome everything.
Body coloured, new style hubcaps.
Two tone roof has been retained.
New colour choices.
Progressive suspension added.
Power steering added.

1966 Plebia II 101L:

and… Oh. Yeah.
How could I forget.
Remember the Mesaia S? The car they released to gauge the market for a FAAL sports car?
Well, it worked.

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Which means every FAAL model gets a sporty version.
Which is actually a good excuse to build new engines! And that’s what they did for the Plebia.

The mk2 Plebia 102S introuced the brand new 133S single direct-acting overhead cam engine. In its first form, it was a 1000cc, single twin barrel carb unit delivering 52hp@5600rpm and 75nm@3900 and called the 133S10C2U Sure, doesn’t sound much, but friendly reminder than we’re talking about a sub-600kg car. How’s that, huh?
It was enough for the mk2 Plebia to reach 100km/h in 14.9sec, and top up at 130km/h.
It also featured front brake discs and a stiffened suspension, which made it lots of fun to throw around in the corners.
The car still retained a 4 speed manual.

Plebia 102S

This car was the first iteration of the company’s new guideline: “Today’s sporty engine is tomorrow’s efficient engine”.
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Which brings us to:

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MK2 Foreia Facelift

Okay now this is on a whole other level:

WHAT CHANGED:
On all models:
Rectangular headlights. Wider blinkers. Simplified chrome trim on the front. Rounded grilles around the license plate. New, rectangular door handles. Sleeker rear end. The single side mirror is now rectangular instead of round.

The rear of the wagon has been entirely revised to make room for a lower loading line, much like the mk1 Mesaia:

Also, ENTIRELY NEW ENGINE RANGE!
Introducing the 236S inline 6 engine series.
Much like the Plebia 102S’s three cylinder, it was a single direct acting overhead cam six cylinder, ranging from 2.0 to 2.3. The mk2 Foreia saw only two versions, a 2.1 and a 2.3.
And, its little brother, the 184S engine series. A four cylinder with the same cam layout. Ranging from 1.3 to 1.8L, the Foreia was fitted with a 1.6 and a 1.8 unit.

Since the Foreia was FAAL’s flagship model, today’s sporty engine was also today’s efficient engine.

Foreia 162
Bare metal hubcaps.
Plastic trim door handles.
Body coloured trim grilles.
1.6 SOHC engine: The 67hp 184S16Ce2U

Foreia 182M
Chrome contour on the grilles and headlights
Chrome door handles
Chrome hubcaps
1.8 SOHC engine: The 80hp 184S18Ce2U

Foreia 213L
Chrome everywhere.
Body coloured, new style hubcaps.
Foglights.
Four speaker radio.
FAAL’s all new hydropneumatic suspension, in its first version. Pillow like comfort in all circumstances.
Some cladding under the engine, to allow for less wind resistance, and therefore, less noise
2.1 SOHC engine: The 90hp 236S21Ce3U

Now we’re talking flagship comfort.

Foreia 213L

And of course, as I said. Every model gets a sports version. In the Foreia’s case, it was more of a good compromise between comfortable and sporty, rather than an all out rally car like the others.

It featured the highest displacement of the new 236S engine, 2.3L, with twin DC0E carbs, engineered to have a smooth torque curve rather than only peak-RPM power. Smoothest FAAL engine to date.

Foreia 234S
Stiffer, lower, progressive suspension
Plastic spoiler
Plastic lip
185/60R15 wheels, wider than all the other models
184S interior trim with two separate rear seats instead of a bench
213L cladding, this time only for less drag, to allow for a 180km/h top speed.
213L foglights
2.3 Twin DC0E engine: The 121hp 236S23DCU

Foreia 234S

And that was it. Everything went well from that point. I mean, it’s not like they can do anything wrong or crazy at that point, all their models are updated, and the Mesaia had such an avantgarde styling when it was released that there was no point in facelifting it, and even less replacing it! Right?
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Oh wait.

They did.

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The 1967 MK2 Mesaia

There it is.
There’s a perfect example of FAAL thinking too French.

So here’s the thinking: Since the MK1 Mesaia wagon was such a huge success (probably because of that ad), and since some dank ass marketter in an office noticed that people started going crazy for hatchbacks, well… they decided that the solution was to listen to the market and turn the Mesaia into a hatchback.

Only a hatchback.

No sedan. No wagon. Only that goddamn hatch, that was meant to replace both the sedan AND the wagon.

smdh.
Anyway.

But hey. Despite the styling being… delightfully quirky and arguable, the car beneath was neatly updated.
The car was still front wheel drive, but the engine was now transversally mounted. The rear semi trailing arms were replaced by a brand new torsion beam setup, with springs and shocks separated. All around, the car had a better handling and lower service costs.

So, the car was once again available in several trims, with 4 different engines:
-Mesaia 132, with an updated 1.3 pushrod L4 from the old generation, the 154P13Ce2U, putting out 51hp/91nm, plastic trim everywhere and no options
-Mesaia 152M, with an updated 1.5 pushrod L4 from the old generation, the 154P15Ce2U, with 60hp/107nm. You get chrome hubcaps, body coloured trims, progressive suspension and power steering, as well as better seats.
-Mesaia 162L, with the same 184S16Ce2U engine as the new base model Foreia and 67hp. Here you get chrome trim everywhere, body coloured hubcaps,
-Mesaia 164S. Oh this was the peak rally car of its time, and the engineers really showed the best side of the brand new SOHC layout. The 184S16DCU engine was capable, with its relatively small 1566cc displacement, of 100hp.
Sure, the power was up there at 6000RPM and the peak torque of 128nm at 4500RPM, but the engine had a instant throttle response. Even better, the car weighed 880kg. All of this made for a 0-100km/h time of exactly 10sec and a top speed of 165km/h. For a compact hatchback, in 1965. Yep, not bad.

Extra photos

“Damn, a new FAAL model! Surely they’ll finally stop using those damn mk1 Plebia door handles as trunk latc…
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OH MAN!”

And of course, the 100hp Foreia 164S

Overall, though, despite the choice of the engineers to make a brand new car instead of exploiting a chassis that still had great days ahead, the deal wasn’t that bad. They even turned a bigger profit than expected, and for a good reason.

Public services ordered this car. A lot. Especially the postal services and military police. The latter had a car custom built to their needs: A base model, absolutely naked, with the 1.5 pushrod engine, offroad tyres, and external foglights instead of the integrated ones below the bumper on the S models. Plus all the interior amenities a police car needs.

Postal version, which was just a base model with no back seats and a custom colour:

Phew. That was a long post.
Next up: The 70s and becoming way too French.

[Knightophonix]

Wipes dust off topic

1974: Thinking Too French

Okay, so. The facelift on the second gen Foreia lasted quite a bit. Because for once, it was gorgeous, and… also because FAAL has been experimenting a bit too much in the late sixties and early seventies.

Y’know. The whole “let’s get crazy, it’s not like we’re finally gonna notice we’re gonna run out of oil, thus driving the price of petrol through the roof, right? … … Right?”
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Hmpf.
So, yeah. FAAL has been experimenting. New body styles, new drivetrains, new engines.
Especially some weird dorito looking thingy that was supposed to make more power in a smaller package with fewer moving parts, and was the future of the combustion engine. Pretty neat… So neat, in fact, that the whole 1975 redesigned Foreia lineup was to run on those. They were even gonna release a car more luxurious than the Foreia: the KLINOS, who was running not two, but THREE doritos in a row.
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except, well, 1973 happenned.

Every single engine experimentation grew obsolete. There was no point. As for the Foreia III, well… They had to release it with engines derived from the 1965 Mesaia GTI’s 184S block, which also powered the outgoing Foreia… At least it still fit the “Today’s performance engine is tomorrow’s efficient engine” theme, I guess?

1974 Foreia

Yo wtf is that bodytype?

Issa l i f t b a c c.
Some weird study determined that people loved hatchbacks for their practicality… But also sedans for their prestance. So, by combining the two, FAAL hoped to attract twice the buyers.

And wtf is that nose?

Issa a e r o d y n a m i c b o y e

Efforts have been made to make the car as aerodynamic as possible with that profiled nose, fewer openings than in the previous generation Foreia (which was pretty much a brick compared to this one), and more efficient, smaller engines.
As a result, with a slightly bigger (4.49m VS 4.42m) and infinitely more spacious (3469L vs 2265L of passenger area) car, not only the weight was roughly the same, but the power figures were slightly better (though not matching the competition anymore) and fuel consumption too.

Okay, okay… But WTF is that plastic trim that goes all around the windshield and meets with the back window?

French quirks. Don’t ask, idfk.

Apart from that, the car had a longitudinal FWD layont and kept the semi trailing arms rear / McPherson front suspension setup of the outgoing model. The chassis was galvanized, though.

Down with FAAL’s model designation, instead of Foreia 162, 182M, etc… you get engine displacement and trim in clear view at the back of the car.

At launch, two trims available, with two engines:

Foreia 1.6 BL
Basic seats, basic AM radio with two speakers in the dash, three point seat belts, power steering, a big clock instead of a tach.
15" steelies with 165/80R15 tires
Plastic trim galore
1.6L 184S16Ce2UE engine which is an evolution of the 1.6 184S from the previous generation Foreia, running unleaded fuel, with hypereutectic cast pistons. At 71hp, it’s four hp stronger than its predecessor… Aaah Rotary, why hast thou faileth me.
Oh yeah, fuel consumption: 12.9L/100 instead of 13L for the outgoing 162

(here in Blanc Banquise)

Foreia 1.8 GL
Standard seats, standard 8 track, still only two speakers.
Extra cladding.
Alloy wheels with optional body colour wheel paint.
Half chrome door handles, and chrome grille.
16" alloy wheels with 185/65R16 tires
1.8L 184S18Ce2UE engine, evolution of the outgoing unit with the same changes as the 1.6 on the BL. 85hp, and a fuel consumption almost 1L/100 less than the outgoing model.

(Here in Bleu de Game Crashed and for some reason I need to reinstall it to see my database again and I can’t remember my colour names by heart so bear with me)

And that’s it.

Yep. No L trim equivalent with 6 cylinder engine and hydropneumatic suspension.
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Unless…

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[stm316]

@Knightophonix

Bleu de Game Crashed

Is that part of the “Bill Gates” option pack?

[abg7]

Quite a futuristic design - its bottom-breather nose was a decade or two ahead of its time. Few other 70s cars had that kind of exterior design feature. And it looks great in French blue, even though it’s not a performance car.

[Knightophonix]

@stm316 Nah, that would be the brand new BSOD Blue.

@abg7 Thanks! But, not really, the DS/ID had one x) And yeah that’s the kind of quirky Citroën-like design I was looking for in this car.

[Knightophonix]

1974 bis: The FAAL Foreia Klinos

Yep. Brand new model. Totally not a Foreia with cosmetic changes which has been given a different name to try and reset the market. Move along. You’re fired, Jean-Martin. It’s the second time in this topic, maybe you should watch your mouth.

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Joke aside, as explained before, FAAL had planned a brand new model, more luxurious than the Foreia, which was going to be called KLINOS. Alas, the fuel crisis happenned. But the trademark on the name has been put, and the marketting department was expecting something.
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So FAAL took a gamble and rebranded their own brand new car, the mk3 Foreia.

The treatment was subtle but efficient: New grilles, new foglights, and the badge moved on the hood for the front…

And a straight exhaust pipe, taillight bar and license plate moved under the bumper for the rear.

Also, the whole plastic trim package turned chrome, and the car was fitted with 16" BUCHS wheels with 205/55R16 tires all around. Of course, they could be body coloured if you ticked that in the option sheet.

… Oh, and how could I forget to mention? It’s rear wheel drive.
On open diff, but still a nice, old fashioned RWD. And for a simple reason: The 236S engine that was fitted in the car simply didn’t fit with the FWD transaxle… So, yeah. RWD it is, so we can push the engine a little bit further towards the driver.

At lauch, the Klinos had only one trim level: GLS, with only one engine. A 236S that had to be de-stroked to 2.2L to keep a reasonably high redline with hypereutectic cast pistons. Emission control is no joke, I’ll tell you hwhat.

That single trim obviously included the latest revision of the cloud-like, self levelling hydropneumatic suspension, as well as the latest top-notch safety options, bolstered leather seats with adjustable headrests and a high quality 8 track car stereo. For the first time, power windows were also an option, front and rear.

Engine specs: 236S22

With all of this, the Klinos weighed 1270kg for 101hp, killed (gently) the 0 to 100km/h in 12.7s and topped out at 174km/h. Not much, but… we’re getting there. FAAL had things in development that could make up for that lack of perfs in the near future.

Sure, it did all that while downing 14.7L/100km of fuel but… Klinos buyers didn’t really care about that, did they.

Next up: Making the best of the scraps: The FAAL Ochlosia.
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Oh wait no, Mk3 Mesaia first.

[flop404]

Gotta love that Foreia, it has every quirky design cues from the period - rhe trimming to make a sedan hatchback is soooo Renault, as are the taillights, while the front screams Citroën - and the profile screams Austin Maestro

(On a side note it is funny how in the 70’s Citroen made sedans that looked like hatchbacks while in rhe early 80s renault invented the hatchs that looked like sedans with the infamous bulle from the fuego/r25/r11)

[Knugcab]

I had one of those as my first car. I have to say that the Mesaia reminds me a lot of it in some way.

[Knightophonix]

Oh oi, I never meant this XD I completely forgot about this generation of Kadett XD

Thankfully, this is the post where it’s gonna change. Or not.

1975: Square bois and Survivors - Mk3 Mesaia and Mk2 Plebia second facelift

In 1965, the Mesaia II took over the Mesaia I that was launched ten years prior.
1965 was ten years ago.

Yup, it is time.

This pretty square body is issued from the numerous bodystyle studies FAAL did during the great 1965-1974 era where literally no new or updated car came out. Well… Great, as in long. Even though the start of the era was promising, both the economy and the possibilities were going down the drain as years went on…
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I mean…

Y’know what?

Emission Crisis Interlude:

So as I said, the economy and possibilities were both going down the drain, but it wasn’t as bad as what was happening in the USA, though… USA that they tried to conquer, by sending their most buffed out, yet still efficient Foreia, fitted with a 236S23Ce3-US engine with hypereutectic cast pistons that prevented it to run faster than 5700rpm… not like americans cared, heh.

The 1972 Foreia 233L US spec:

Same facelifted Foreia as you know, with white headlights, no license plate support… And thus, the trademark “two grilles wrapping around the license plate” FAAL design cue had to go, too, replaced by a continuation of the upper grille.

Permanently lit blinker repeaters found their way on both side, front and rear. The taillights ditched the amber light and grew larger, covering the entire surface between the license plate and the sides.

And of course, the one and only thing you need to make sales in the USA

With a three speed Prendell™ The car had a top speed of 94mph, did 0 to 62 in 15.4sec… But a pretty poor fuel rating of 16.1MPG (the fact that decimals matter says it all) thanks to the same slushbox that allowed it to sell. It wasn’t an economy car, after all.

And while they were building that, the same year, discreetly, the Plebia 102S, Mesaia 162S and Foreia 234S all got discontinued, because they didn’t meet the emission standards and every attempt at replacing them with the same kind of punch ended up a failure.

RiP S trims, 1960-1972. Press F to pay respects.

… Thankfully, better days were to come when the technology advances.

So anyway, back to the

1975 Mk3 Mesaia, fo real this time.

So yeah, the square boi you saw earlier was set to replace the quirky boi hatchback-wagon looking thing that sold like chocolatines.
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“Pains au chocolat”, said someone, threatening me with a knife. He would be right.

No surprises in the styling, except probably those big plastic bumpers, that were meant to lessen body damage. Apart from that, the headlights and grille evoked the outgoing model, the “license plate wrapped in grilles” was still here, and so was that plastic bar between the taillights.

The car was 3.82m long, could weigh as low as 791kg, and was made of untreated steel. It retained the same chassis elements as the outgoing model: McPherson suspension on the front, torsion beam on the rear, transversal FWD engine.
It was available in both 3 and 5 doors variants, though all the press cars shown below were 5 doors. A 3.99m sedan version was also available, even though it had borderline anecdotic sales and wasn’t really marketted.

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Let’s talk trims and engines.

The Mk3 Mesaia was available in three trims, that were… not really equivalent to those of the outgoing model. Especially the lower ones.

The base model was the 1.1BL, badged 1.1 only. It came with fully unpainted bumpers, no rear foglights, no radio, no power steering, nothing. As for the engine, that 1.1L unit was a 133S derivative: The 133S11CeUE, developing 46hp and mated to a 4 speed gearbox. To put it short, it’s a stroked version of the engine from the Plebia 102S, tuned for economy. A Plebia engine in a Mesaia… hmpf.
At least it worked, and the car sipped on 8.9l/100 of fuel, while topping up at 134km/h and reaching 100km/h in an agonizing 19.5sec.

Pictured here in the very rare sedan configuration:

The mid-trim model was the CL. It was basically a BL, with factory options that… actually made the car liveable, like power steering, and a radio. Other changes were mostly cosmetic, with half painted bumpers and rear foglights. With no options, the car weighed 871kg.
The base engine was a new 1.3L derivative of the 184S family, the 184S13Ce2UE, mated to a 4 speed gearbox. It developed 60hp, propelled the car to 100km/h in 15.8sec, topped up at 147km/h with a fuel consumption of 9.7l/100. But you could option it up to the engine from the base model Foreia, the 184S16Ce2UE 1.6 unit developing 71hp. Just like you could option up a 5 speed gearbox, nicer seats, a better stereo and more safety options.

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OR, you could also have every option box ticked AND add alloy wheels and progressive suspension and get the upper trim: The Mesaia GL.
The only options you could add were front foglights and fancy paints, like the Bleu Lagon Métallisé showed below, because… you already had everything else.
The car was only available with the 1.6L, 71hp engine mentioned earlier, mated to a 5 speed manual. With this, the car weighed 979kg, 0-100km/h in 13.9sec, and had a top speed of 157km/h. Fuel consumption was 10.4l/100, though.

No S model… as I said, every single attempt ended up in something not worth selling… And the car itself relied on heavy marketting, a modern design, and a generous option list to sell, because, well… People were starting to see fuel like they see caviar, at that time.
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GUESS WHO DIDN’T GIVE A SH*T THO

PLEBIA OWNERS. THAT’S RIGHT.

1975 Mk2 Plebia - second facelift

A little quickie for this one, because, well… It’s the third time you see that car now.
So, the ole’ 1955 Plebia was still here, and still selling 20 years later (especially during the fuel crisis, OBVIOUSLY) and… Yeah, in fact it was selling so much that FAAL found it deserved a second facelift.
The cosmetic changes were mostly in the front fascia with:

• A new, wider grille with a… somewhat familiar design, I can’t put my finger on it…
• The updated “plate surrounded by grilles” cue, with rounded edges
• Square blinkers and repeaters
• The replacement of the trunk latch by a simple lock-push button… And if you looked closely the pictures of the three last posts, that means that THE 29YO MK1 PLEBIA DOOR HANDLE CAN FINALLY BE DISCONTINUED.
  
  #GoneButNot4gotten 1946-1975

As for the technical changes:
The Plebia 81 is replaced by the Plebia 900BL (simply badged Plebia) with the very last revision of the now ancient pushrod 123P engine, the 123P9CeUE. 35hp, 606kg, 8.7l/100km/h, 112km/h top speed and I won’t even publish the 0-100 time.
The Plebia 101L is replaced by the Plebia GL, with… The 1.1 engine from the base Mesaia, just to rub the fact that the base Mesaia ACTUALLY has a Plebia engine. 46hp, 690kg, 9.9l/100 (yeah, worse than the Mesaia. Boom.), 121km/h, 18.2s to 100.

Neither the 101M nor the 102S had following this year.
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But if you look closely at the badging on the 1978 model year that is shown, due to fixture errors on the 1975 cars… more is to come in later years for FAAL’s sport car legacy.

UH OH, S🅱OILER ALERT.

[Knightophonix]

Two posts in one day, cuz I really wanna catch up with my lore.

1976: Releasing the research, pt.1: The FAAL Ochlosia

Okay. The idea behind the Ochlosia is that ever since the Mk1 Plebia Fourgonnette went out of production in the mid sixties (Yep, mid sixties. That plank on wheels.), FAAL had simply no true utilitarian options.
Sure, there was the Mesaia and Foreia wagons… But a wagon can only haul so much and be so practical at the end of the day. Professionnals and people who really needed to carry heavy stuff were reaching out to other brands, Anhultz and their everlasting Transportwagen to only cite one… It was time to try and get them back. With squares. And modern tech.

The van was rear wheel drive, front engined, with the engine in between the two front seats and a deported gearing command that sat way high on the big central console/engine cover. No bench seat like in most vans… Sure, you could get three passengers in the front provided one of them had a full Adidas tracksuit, a bottle of Vodka and was called Boris, and get him to squat on the engine cover, but… It wasn’t really legal. And good luck getting a russian dude in France with Germany still being half communist and blocking stuff at the time.

… I think I’m getting lost in thoughts.

SO. The van. Galvanized half-monocoque half-ladder body, to allow for a low loading line and still support enough weight. Regular steel panels. Two sliding doors. Front McPherson suspension and rear solid axle leaf spring. 300mm disc brakes all around, ventilated in the front, solid in the back. Given the shape of the rear, no dual doors, just a big old hatch, with very heavy gas springs, that went way down until the loading line.

The entire black bar and license plate ensemble lifts up with the hatch, as well as the upper part of the taillights.

The Ochlosia had two versions: A fully utilitarian version, with a separation between the cabin and the cargo area, and a people mover, called the Ochlosia Camper

… Or… the Camper Ochlosia, as the badging suggests, idk. People just called it the camper.

For some reason, the van variant was offered with a fully glassed version… and for some reason² that’s the configuration the press car is in. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The Van was motorized by a single engine to make it as cheap to buy and to maintain as possible: The 1.8 184S18Ce2UE that had been in the top trim mk3 Foreia for two years now. At 85hp it didn’t look like much BUT, a newly designed 5 speed gearbox with very wide gears and a very, VERY short first gear made up for that, and allowed the van a carrying capacity of 1700kg and a towing capacity of 1400kg. For a van with a dry weight of around 1250kg.
The price to pay was an engine that was absolutely screaming at 4100rpm at 120km/h… And get that, the engine is right NEXT to you when you’re driving. Needless to say the Ochlosia wasn’t a highway van.

Amongst other specs, you get a 150km/h top speed (dry, of course), a 14sec 0-100km/h and 14.5L/100km.

The Ochlosia Camper now, that’s another story.
This van was open cab all the way to the trunk, only available in fully glassed version. It had hubcaps, chrome bumpers, a chrome grille, chrome door handles and optional foglights. Not to mention extra paint options. You could even get a quirky looking spare wheel holder on the tailgate… which of course, meant heavier gas springs.

The five speed option was retained, but tuned towards drivability rather than towing capacity… And more, it was mated to the 2.2 sixer 236S22Ce3UE from the Klinos.

The goal with that van / people mover thingy is that it was made to do whatever you wanted on the inside. But it came with two three-seats benches, fully removable, that would leave a flat floor when removed, and a 8 seater registration. What you did with those benches, and the space on the inside, was entirely up to you. … Yeah you can see where the “camper” name comes from.

Best part? Thanks to the car-like gearing, the 6 cylinder had only a barely worse fuel consumption than the van variant, at 14.7l/100 and the Camper could TECHNICALLY reach 164km/h and had a 0-100 of 14.5sec.

Okay, that’s it for the Ochlosia.

Seeing what was left in their bank of research, the marketting team saw only one body variant that was interesting and could bring in new markets: A coupe. They wanted it for next year.
The engineering department, though, was deep into developing the future of the carburator… and managed to make the marketting team chill a bit, saying that they could introduce the new coupe with a very fancy fuel feeding technology that could improve both efficiency AND performance at the same time.

Coming next: The return of sports cars and Fuel Injection

[Knightophonix]

1978 - Releasing the research Pt. 2 - The Coupé & Fuel Injection pt. 1

Okay, so it’s 1978 and FAAL just got done with the future of carburators.
Two versions:
-an o2 sensor boi with a single injector meant to replace a carburator on the cheap… paradoxally with a very fancy 70s spec ECU
-a more expensive mechanical fuel injection with a multiport layout and weird tray thingy.
The two managed to get released together, while a fancier multiport EFI setup was awaiting better technology to get released… So, the complicated mechaboi will have to do or most engines, while the single point carb-replacement EFI setup was meant for three cylinder engines only.

But first of all, FAAL needed to raise awareness of the possibilities of fuel injection, both in efficiency and performance. And that’s where their latest study shows up: The FAAL Coupé

Under the body, it’s… basically a RWD Mesaia. In which any 236S engine fits. With semi trailing arms instead of a torsion beam on the rear. … Which has gone through an anti-corrosion treatment. But… yeah, let’s just say there were SOME Mesaia design elements taken. Including the basics of the front fascia.

The rear, though, was entirely different, with a weird striped plastic bar going from one rear quarter window to the other while wrapping around the trunk, because French Quirks and Renault Fuego or something.

The car was available in two engines: Two variants of the 236S23.
One was a 115hp naturally aspirated unit that was… still kinda slow revving, thanks to the hypereutectic cast pistons, but had the best throttle response of any 236S23 engine, and… of all FAAL’s engine lineup: the 236S23ME
The other was FAAL’s very first TURBO engine, that was also their most powerful yet, the 236S23MTE. It made 155hp and 231nm, which is… quite frankly ridiculous by today’s standards for a 2.3L turbo engine, but was still a good punch in a car that weighed barely more than one ton. Both models were tuned with a generous mix of hardness and comfort, making it a car that was both fun to throw around and still drivable on a daily basis.

(Damn it, whose idea was it to have the press car be RED just like the turbo badge?!)

N/A Coupés had a single trim: CS, that came with four standard seats, an AM radio and steel wheels with hubcaps. A pretty basic equipment that allowed the car to stay at exactly 1000kg. The green one is one of them.

Turbo Coupés had, too, a single trim, that was just badged Turbo. On top of all that is cited, they had an aero package composed of a lip and a small spoiler. That would be the red one.

N/A Performance: 188km/h top speed, a 0-100km/h in 10.1 sec, quarter mile of 17.7sec.
Turbo performance: 200km/h top speed, 0-100km/h in 8.1sec, quarter mile of 16.15sec.

The performances of the Turbo model put the car in only a slightly higher spot as West Germany’s BMW 323i… which had a naturally aspirated 2.3 engine. There was still progress to be made.
…
Which is good, because those engine were made to comply with drastic emission standards they didn’t necessarily need to. So with this, plus the EFI development, plus FAAL’s still developing new drivetrain options… That car could only improve.

1978 was one helluva year for FAAL, and I’m gonna need to cover it in three posts.

Coming next: Fuel Injection galore, the return of sport trims, and reconquering the USA

[Knightophonix]

Releasing the research Pt. 3 - Fuel Injection, pt. 2: Spreading it / reconquering the US

We’re still in 1978, and we’re far from done.
Because fuel injection going production ready meant the whole FAAL lineup will take advantage of it. Engine updates. New versions of cars. Everything.

The Foreia 1.8 saw a fuel injected version, which increased the power by 12hp: The 184S18ME

The Klinos inherited of the two 2.3 L6s of the FAAL Coupe with respectively 115hp for the N/A and 155 for the turbo.

The turbo version, though, found its way in a new trim.
The almightly

1978 Klinos Excellence

beautiful mesh style wheels. Chrome everywhere. Power everything. Cushioned and heated red leather interior. Sunroof. It had it all.

And quite frankly, the 236S23MTE was more meant for that car than the turbo coupe, as it was much more linear than it was sporty. Especially with the 4 speed automatic with overdrive that came with the Excellence.

0-100 in 11 seconds, 197km/h top speed. That seems like laughable performance, but the Klinos Excellence was all about that comfort, which was on par with premium brands. … That being said, it had a premium price tag to go with that…

The Klinos Excellence was also the flagship of the fleet of cars and variants FAAL sent overseas to try and reconquer the US, now that they had decent engine choices.

1978 Klinos Excellence - USDM

The beauty of FAAL’s engines is that with their hypereutectic cast pistons and general design, they were compliant of US emission regulations. No change was made to the 155hp turbo engine.
The car, though, had a “federal law friendy” makeover, including 5mph bumpers and round uncovered headlights…

Front and rear sidemarkers…

And taillights that got rid of the ember blinkers.
okay that was it for the halo car, but the US also saw cars people could actually buy:

1978 Olympia

Yeah, issa USDM FAAL Coupe. The exact same car, safe for the automatic seatbelts and imperial gauges.
There’s of course those big 5mph bumpers, sidemarkers and USDM taillights.

This is a turbo, but both it and the N/A were available.

And to bottom up the list:

1978 USDM Mesaia

This car was very different from the european model, though, both in conception and in target audience. It was cheaper, yet “sportier”. Think “slow car fast”. See, the problem is that the european Mesaia was fully, one hundred percent built to european standards. Their engines were unfit for the US market, and so were their performance. Miss me with that “unsafe for highway use” sh*t.
So the USDM Mesaia was sold in two trims:

A base model, called simply the 1.3, featuring a 3 cylinder single point EFI 133S13Spi-US engine developing 65hp at 6000rpm that was found on no european FAAL except the Plebia S with like 7 more hp but that’s for another post. The car was sitting on nimbler, lower suspension, but had the same 13" steelies as the EUDM Mesaia. This version was only available with a short geared 4 speed manual. As I said, sportier, but cheaper.

And a more upscale 1.6 CLI, with a 184S16ME-US engine developing 80hp. This was both available with a 5 speed manual or a 3 speed auto because American buyers demographic. Apart from that the recipe was the same, plus alloy wheels and a better stereo and better materials inside.

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Tfw I have one more post to go to cover 1978

[Knightophonix]

pukes last post for 1978

Releasing the research Pt. 4 - Fuel injection Pt. 3 - Getting lost in a naming scheme by myself Pt. 2 - Despacito Pt. 7: The return of sport trims.

Now, the adoption of fuel injection meant better emission controls. Better emission controls meant the possibility to extract more out of existing engines and still comply.

It’s time to paint some cars in Ginster Yellow again. Starting with the Plebia:

The lil’ bro: '78 Plebia S Injection

The recipe was pretty much the same. Karting like suspension and peppy engine.
Except… way more serious this time.
While the 1965-1972 Plebia 102S only felt fast for a Plebia, the 1978 Plebia S injection felt decently fast for a small car.

It felt fast. But at 23 years old, the body was starting to show its age. Top speed was only 142km/h, the 0-60 took 10.7 seconds. Quarter mile though, at 17.7s, was just on par with the contemporary N/A FAAL Coupe. Whether this is good news for the Plebia S or bad news for the N/A Coupe, you decide.

The engine was a 133S block, bored out to 1.3L and fitted with single point EFI. Just like the USDM base model Mesaia. Except this one had tubular exhaust headers and made 73hp: The 133S13Spi.

So how did it feel fast? Well, the car weighed exactly 666kg. Also, a really really good suspension tuning that made it feel like it had no grip limit. So little understeer it might as well be AWD.
Sure, people who tuned Plebias know there’s a grip limit but that’s only past 160kmh. Which the car didn’t reach stock. And even then, just a little camber tweaking if you get above that and boom. Back on the rocks, baby.

But that’s not the best stuff. Guess who’s also back.

The big sister: '78 Mesaia GTI

The 1965-1972 Mesaia 164S had a 101hp 1.6 184S16DCU engine with a smooth torque curve. This has a 104 hp 1.6 184S16ME engine with less torque, and a torque curve that should have a warning label on it. With the name, the target of this car was quite clear: the Golf GTI, which was the first car to resuscitate hot hatches. Though it couldn’t match it in numbers (9.7s 0-60, 17.23s quarter mile and 175km/h top speed), it did match it in looks.

And the chassis was about as good as the Plebia S. Grip for days with 910kgs and 185/60R14 tyres, and a time extension for funsies with brake discs all around. Brake fade, what is that?

If the Plebia’s days were numbered, the Mesaia’s career was still fresh… and the upcoming hot hatch war will keep it fresh as years go by.

Next up: The 80s - What doesn’t kill you makes you build great cars

[Hshan]

To be quite honest, I didn’t like your brand at the start, I’m still not sure about your babbling, but the cars… they are really Frenchie-cool

[Knightophonix]

For the record I’ve been waiting to do this post for literally two months. So:

1981 through 1986 - AWD and Group B tales: The FAAL Tetra

It’s been three years since FAAL’s comeback in the sport car market, and people couldn’t rejoice more. From the affordable and kart-like Plebia S to the german-tickling Mesaia GTI all the way to the tail happy Coupe Turbo, any wallet in need of sensations could find its weapon of choice. If sales were only good, the brand image was starting to rise up to a whole new level… which was the goal the Klinos failed to achieve. Luxury wasn’t the way to go.

But now… you don’t build sports cars just for the heck of it, do you? Oh no. Competition is where it’s at. And for that, the Coupe will have to up its game.

1981-1982 Coupe TETRA - Evo 1

TETRA. A word that will surely make the ink flow as the very first French permanent AWD system ever made.
Now, why so much craziness, in an age where every single car made in France is transverse, FWD and 4 cylinder? Simple.
FAAL had been taking a gamble three years ago by making the Coupe RWD, taking lessons from the Germans. It was either going to be hit or miss. And, as it turns out… Hit. People were so glad to have a car that was RWD, and a very well handling RWD on top of that, that they didn’t care about the lack of power and the desperately low redline from the engine. So why not take it to the next level? Taking lessons from the germans again it is.

So the Coupe was for the second time the advertisement car of that glorious drivetrain layout, and the car had been revised for the occasion. TETRA-only design changes include:

• A one bar grille instead of three bar, body painted
• One piece bumpers, body painted
• Delightfully 80s box flared wheel arches
• A plastic wing, replacing the simple spoiler of the Turbo version
• Appropriate TETRA badging instead of COUPE
• The FAAL front badge was moved to the left side in an attempt to tweak the design enough to distinguish the car from a regular Coupe even more

The 50/50 AWD system made the car gain weight, at 1147kg, or 80kg more than a regular Coupe Turbo, and as a result, to extract significantly better performance out of the Tetra, the engine had to be upgraded.

The Coupe’s 236S23MTE engine saw a brand new ball bearing turbo and ditched the hypereutectic cast pistons for tough, forged ones (rendering the car unsellable in the US because of that), and the new 236S23MT now made 175hp and 264nm peak, a 20hp and more than 30nm improvement over the Coupe’s engine, not to mention the raised redline and lower peak torque.
With accurate tuning of the 5 speed that could now accept lower first gears, the Coupe TETRA Evo 1 went from 0 to 60 in 7.1s (1s improvement over the Turbo, and no wheel spin at all) but retained the same 200km/h top speed as the Turbo.

So far, the car was already incredibly more driveable than the standard Turbo Coupe, but the numbers felt like wet fireworks being lit. BUT THEN:

1982-1983 Coupe TETRA - Evo 2

During the one year of Evo 1 sales, FAAL’s engineers figured out “Hey, why don’t we combine the o2 sensor boi of the Plebia S and the multipoint layout of our mechanical injection in a multipoint EFI layout?”
As usual when someone makes such a discovery at FAAL, the whole team of executives got drunk beyond decency and wake up three days later after yet another alsacien booze shortage. This was no exception since their newest and last version of the now 17 years old 236S23 engine, the 236S23Mpi, made 23hp and 31nm more than its Mechanical Injection equivalent. With 198hp, 295nm and only 8 more kg than the Evo 1, the Coupe Tetra evo 2 now went from 0-60 in 6.43s and had a top speed of 208km/h.

The front fascia had been revised for the occasion, with a new hood scoop and a wider lower grille. The upper grille stayed the same; despite what the photo mode wants you to make believe, it isn’t blank.

Now the car was starting to feel great. More power, better throttle response, better stats overall and on top of that, better fuel consumption. The Evo 1 kept being sold for a while longer though, to give people more opportunities because the new engine only ran on 95 octane.

It looked like things couldn’t get any better BUT THEY DID.

1983-19?? Coupe TETRA Evo 3 (+ Facelift)

1983 saw the now 5 years old Coupe’s mid career facelift, and with that, the arrival of the successor of the 236S engine series: The 256R.
This new block had a modern 24 valve layout all cramped on the same camshaft and was designed to run with multipoint EFI in the first place. Better air flow. Higher redlines. Lower service costs (though they’re already stupid high for turbo Coupes :t). The engine was also designed to be stoked to 2.5L (though with a very high stroke/bore ratio), but the one that found its way in the Evo 3 was a 2141cc slightly undersquare turbo unit. Why such an odd displacement? We’ll get to it later.

Of course, it’s a Facelift, so instead of listing all the physical changes I’ll let the pictures speak because we’re barely halfway through yet:

The new engine, the 256R21MpiT, had a slightly worse torque than the outgoing one (292nm), BUT more power, 215hp at a high 6600RPM, which made the Tetra Evo 3 a car that you WANT to bring to the redline. Also, first FAAL engine to reach 100hp/L. Traction was starting to show its limit though, and that’s why the TETRA system was updated too, with brand new geared LSDs front and rear, the whole package allowing a 0-60 time slightly below 6 seconds and a top speed of 215km/h.

Of course the regular Coupe also saw the Facelift as well as new 256R derived engines:

The base model is now the 2.1CS, with a 256R21Mpi engine making 126hp or 11 more than the outgoing model…

The Turbo model now has the 256R21MpiTE engine making 180hp or 25 more than the outgoing model and even crazier, 5 more than the Tetra evo 1. Talk about progress.

It keeps getting better and OH MY GOD WHAT IS THIS.

1983-1984 FAAL Tetra Tour De Corse (Group B homologation special)

Of course, FAAL wouldn’t dump crazy amount of money in R&D if they didn’t want something out of it, and competition had been their goal from the very start. Their AWD TETRA system was ready and tested out on road cars by buyers who didn’t even know what was about to hit them just like Group B drivers.

Now, to participate in Group B, FAAL had to build a homologation special. 200 road cars that are close enough to the competition car, but still actually sell in the real world. Which is, in fact, why their new engine has such an odd displacement that allowed it to participate in the 3000cc category. Peugeot did it. Audi did it. Lancia did it. It was their turn. Here comes the TETRA Tour De Corse.

The TETRA Evo 3 had seen everything that wasn’t necessary taken off. Stereo, rear seats, extra cladding and unnecessary safety amenities all gone. Despite that, the Tour De Corse only shed 48kgs compared to the Tetra Evo 3 because of the stiffened chassis and wider tyres. The 256R21T2, though, now had an unreasonable 275hp and 330nm, allowing for a 0-60 tome of 4.7s, a 233km/h top speed and a quarter mile done in 13.27s.
The car was highly track focused, with stiff suspension, 235mm wide tyres and virtually nothing but a wheel, pedals, seats, and a crapton of power.

Of course, it only found home in the garages of the most dedicated FAAL enthusiasts and are now highly sought after cars, provided you can find one that is not a replica.

AND IF YOU THINK THIS IS PEAK 80s FAAL WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE THE ACTUAL RACE VERSION

The Group B FAAL Tetra saw two versions: The 1984-1985 season version had the 256R21MpiTR-F1 race only engine making 417hp out of a stock block, and the very last, widow maker 256R21MpiTR-F2 engine for the 1985-1986 season made 557hp with a revised head and tougher internals.

The car was relatively succesfull in competition… and by that I mean almost nobody died in it. As for actual racing pedigree, I think we’re gonna wait for the BeamNG exporter release for that.

TL;DR: Competition is a drug and that was one helluva long post.

[Hshan]

TURBO AWD GROUP B GIB AUDI QUATTRO It looks like if Sport Quattro and E30 M3 Evo had a child.

And let me leave it here for the mood:

[Knightophonix]

Sneak Peek into the future II: 2015.

It appears that the legend has caught on…

… And so has the racing heritage.

… I mean, if the World Series Touring ends up being a thing, at least.

[thequin]

Loving the series. With the new BeamNG exporter around the corner, are you gonna make some of these cars available to download? I’d love to try the Mesaia 154S
Q

[Knightophonix]

Definetly. Not literally two minutes after the exporter release of course, but definetly.

First one I’m gonna do is the Tetra and the Tour De Corse (and in fact the exporter is gonna be a blessing to tune the Group B version properly as Automation doesn’t really have a “hooning on gravel” stat), and then it’s gonna trickle down all the way to the 154S. x)

Oh and also, it appears that the post about the FAAL Tetra was a mistake, and the 256R engine family actually doesn’t exist. I don’t know why, but the archives state of a weird inline 6 setup when it’s actually a shorter stroke inline 5 for the whole post 1983 lineup. brb gonna slap some archivist trainee.

[EDIT]
Old picture of a Mesaia 164S in a late sixties track day, colorized

[Tea_Pawt]

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