You didnt even read a single thing about this challenge, posting random cars from your random threads has nothing to do with this challenge, read the challenge next time.
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At least the Gaucho didnât fail hard and seems to be some kind of honorable loser. Close enough.
xD Oh I messed up. My first challenge and didnât read properly, too nervous. Thank you for giving me a second chance, I messed up as well.
Nontheless I enjoy this and am baffled at how many cool entries there are!
Nice voting system, like it!
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No. No trim mistake can explain this.
At the very beginning the challenge said âImportant! Read all the rules, requirements, and opening/closing dates!â. You failed very hard at that. Your vehicle didnât meet the minimum requirements, didnât use the naming scheme (which isnât rocket science, same as any CSR), and you even tried to send way your 0 effort shit before the opening date. Your car ran on 91 RON fuel which was completely unescessary. You actually managed to fail at ALL THOSE 3. Wow
But you didnât stop there! The first thing the background said was âBuenos Aires, Argentina. February 2019â. Again, you didnât even read the fucking year. You sent a 90s obsolete car. For people looking to buy a car in 2019. And you didnât even read what the challenge was about. It was about offroad utility vehicles. You sent a piece of shit âSUVâ
You couldâve asked if you actually had doubts. You didnât even bother making a car for this challenge. There are no excuses. You donât even bother with anything, youâve made lots of comments which have no meaningful content in this thread, finding which one was your carâs ad was a pain because there was a long list of comments even after filtering only yours. Hell, not only this thread. You spam the entire forums with the least effort shit ever seen.
And even then, assuming your car had met the criteria, the challenge took place in the 90s, etc. ,etc⌠It was still a piece of shit in almost every way imaginable. Looking at the engine? A piece of shit. Ok letâs see the tires⌠staggered tires on this piece of shit. Ok, what about the gearing? A unusably long piece of shit. Etc.
So, if you would be so kind:
If you don't have anything meaningful, on-topic, and relevant to contribute, don't just throw shit for others to deal with
Many people took their time to make a car for the challenge. And I appreciate those people participating! Of course not everyone was a pro, but in the great majority you could clearly see there was an attempt and that they at least read what the challenge was about. This applies outside of the context of this challenge too.
Now, can you understand that, or should I explain it with crayons?
This was the first time I host the CSR, so I gave everyone the benefit of doubt, including you. But the next time (if there is a next), if I see something like yours that was clearly made by someone who gave a grand total of 0 fucks about the challenge and rules⌠itâs a bin without even getting mentioned at all.
And since you're out of the challenge now, you could stop spamming at least this thread with messages, please
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damn,Iâm sad seign my car rejectedâŚ
TC and ESP on offroading⌠well, I tought it wasnât necesary.
The styling, I donât use mods, tried to mount auxiliary grille lights but⌠oink XD
I also donât like automatic gears to go offroad, letting a computer to change gears whenever she wants⌠not my type of car.
Did my car get any good point? I think that the engine was great but canât compare with others
I mean, it wasnât too bad, just that in general it wasnât as good as others.
TC and ESP is not a necessity. However itâd be undeniably very useful for little money: TC for operation on ice and snow. ESP comes with other assists in trucks these days like hill start assist or descent assist.
The styling, well, contributes a bit to the first impressions.
And about the automatic: the problem with a manual is that it can be used, sure. They do know how to use a manual⌠but juggling with the clutch so much to move at low speeds when offroading or for utility is not fun. A torque converter helps with that nicely, can even provide some torque multiplication of its own. And autos these day are not stupid for gear changes, or can also be used in a manual speed selection mode
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Shortlist shortening (Round 1.5)
R: OK, so how many vehicles can we have on the shortlist?
O: Well, we would have to transport them there by cargo plane trips. The most we could do is 8 vehicles. It isnât exactly cheap, but well. Itâs still a bit of a stretch, but testing them there can be worth it.
G: Hmmm, letâs see. We have 13 cars on this pile. Well, we need to start reducing that.
L: Well, I think a good starting point would be some cars that had none or little flaws, and had a very good price. We saw several like that, didnât we?
R: Thatâs a good idea.
The four selected some cars that had been very cheap and very promising and put them on the shortlist:
- Straker Kakadu AXT by @Centurion_23
- Rhisuki Bouken by @Repti
- Albatross Redwood by @zschmeez
- Teuvo Terracotta by @LS-Vehicles
- Wallys Grand Expedition Heavy Duty by @vmo
- RCM Prairie CX 4x4 Polar by @thecarlover
G: OK, that makes 6. We can still pick two more, right? We need to rule out 4 of these 7 we have left.
R: Hmmm, letâs see⌠Well, going by price vs performance⌠I say we have to discard this one. We saw it at the very beggining, and accepted it despite being so expensive, but the bar was set much higher later. Despite its high price, some later cars surpassed it or offered more or less equal performance.
G: Good then.
The Ponni Paiute BEâs file was set aside.
R: Well, I think the next one to go has to be this one. It is the cheapest of these, sips fuel, but⌠it has some inherent limitations that mean it will just not work as well as other options.
O: And on top of that, the size and location of itâs engine. Ugh. It wouldnât be expensive to maintain per se, but it would be a real, real pain.
G: Aww. Bye van
The BT Motors Tarandus AEVâs file was set aside.
L: Well, like the first one, thereâs also another one that is pretty expensive, and⌠eh, the small advantages arenât really worth that much of a price difference.
G: Alright.
The Cyanide Motors Huskyâs file was set aside.
O: Well, going by a similar criteria to the first one⌠thereâs also this one. Wasnât as expensive itself but⌠if we consider its service costs and what it consumes in fuel despite that second thing being hard to predict⌠I donât think itâs worth it as much as others.
G: Very well.
The Hawker Nemesis ExPâs file was set aside.
L: And finally I think thereâs also this one that we saw near the beggining. Funny how it set the bar high at that time, it was very surprising. But now itâs been surpassed by many others for less. I mean, it wasnât really too expensive on its own, and it didnât consume much fuel either. But it has service costs a bit higher than the rest of the pack while not really offering much more performance so I think itâs time to tell goodbye to this one despite looking so good.
G: Bye, Chinamobile. Seems like youâve been undercut by some cheaper things, against all odds.
The Honghu Yulinâs file was set aside.
The last two remaining cars were added to the shortlist of the cars that were going to be sent to Antarctica for testing:
Congratulations to the 8 people tagged! Your cars made it to round 2!
To the ones who have received the fury of the binhammer:
Thanks for participating! (unless you sent a low effort shitpost). I had to be very nitpicky with so many entries (yet still needed to shorten the shortlist). Better luck next time!
And now please I beg your patience. Tomorrow (monday) I'm barely going to be at home, so no guarantees that round 2 will come tomorrow with such tight competitors. I'll try my best to have it as soon as possible
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Iâm so tempted to ask to see this expalined with crayons but since itâs your first time and youâre already doing a perfectly fine job of processing the 60 or so entries (Jesus H Christ on a kebab stick) I think youâd be forgiven for not going that far 
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Canât wait for the final round to see who will win!
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Expected bin is expected. Iâll take being the only van to pass the first round though!
Writing is still quality ElMenduko, thanks for the host!
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Another tick for Honghuâs bad CSR rep 
but hey, at least itâs serving its antarctican anime waifus in imagination
Thanks for the host, Menduko. Knew my entry was screwed from the beginning :â)
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2.34 l/hr.? Jesus. I guess I didnât understand that part. I didnât know what efficiency âat idleâ meant, because I didnât see that stat; I used the base overall efficiency, and got 1.66 l/hr.
Minor correction: It was a V6 not a V8
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@strop Uh, well. Iâd need to buy some then. Now that I think about it, itâd be very useful for the many people who seem to not read the general CSR rules at all despite them being linked in every post. Maybe if shortened in that way they will?
@EddyBT maybe if you hadnât shoved such a huge engine below the seats in a cabover van you couldâve slipped through. That, and if so many solid competitors hadnât begun showing suddenly later.
@yangx2 Oh come on, you came in 9th. It wasnât outright screwed. There had to be a cutoff somewhere. And if design had been more important like it usually is in most CSRs you wouldâve done better. Or maybe if you hadnât turbocharged your already monstrous engine (which it didnât need) it couldâve had less service costs and maybe made the cut.
And now, I need to add crayons to the shopping list and sleep for a few hours. Hopefully I can at least start a bit of round 2 tomorrow after classes.
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Well I guess I did better than usual⌠it wasnât quite insta-binned, kinda hung out on the rim for a bit before getting nudged the rest of the way in.
Ok itâs official. I need someone to do the engines for me.
I thought flat torque curve was good. Hereâs my reasoning.
I was going for decent torque figures at lower revs. Looking at the efficiency it is a lot better off boost. But I also wanted some more power if itâs ever needed. And up in the rev range ther is some more.
Apparently ma reasoning is wrong.
To those who know. Is it harder to get the turbos spool up at low revs on boxer 4 than straight 4?
And the low door handles are to compensate the high ride height. So they are in the normal place. The car is just high.
Anyway. Got binned.
Boxer 4âs are literally the worst engine type in the game to turbocharge. You only have 2 cylinders feeding each turbo. And none of that matters if you tune your turbos so badly they literally donât do anything. The flat torque curve is likely because your turbos never kick in.
Also, read this: Engine Design Guide (Part 5: Turbo Tuning)
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The flat torque curve part is right (but it doesnât have to be literally perfectly flat). The thing that in this case, having a good low end torque was very important. For a turbo engine, that means spooling very soon. And a boxer 4 is currently the worst engine layout in that regards. Not much you can do to make those spool reasonably soon in the current version really.
I donât remember the exact details of your engine but I can look in detail later if Iâm back home
The door handles make some sense if thatâs the case then but that was more of an extra comment/observation, not really weighted for the binhammer
Yeah I know it was the engine why it was binned.
But Iâm happy cause it looks kinda cool. And Iâm more a designer than engineer.
Quote âEh? Another van? Well this one at least seems like an attempt was made.â
Thanks 
If you donât want criticism donât do CSR
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