Try to look out of the rear window on nearly all supercars.
There is only rules/laws for outer mirrors, not any inner.
And how many delivery vans have you seen with a rear window at all?
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Final reminder: The deadline is in just under 3 hours.
If you have already posted an ad for your entry, please submit the corresponding .car file to me via PM before then.
Edit: The deadline has now passed, which means…
Submissions are closed.
Reviews and results for this round will be posted in 72 hours or less.
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MCC2 - Preliminary Reviews
Before I start, I have to announce that the following entries have been disqualified for the following reasons:
@Rise_Comics - Innovation 909: Drivetrain was AWD instead of RWD as required by the rules.
@Kyuu77 - KGB Prodigar X: .car file was not submitted even though an ad was posted.
@Fletchyboy100 - Brantan Forge: Original car did not meet regulations due to insufficient body drag. Although a chance was given to resubmit with a different body, the new .car file (with a replacement body) was not submitted.
The Verdicts
Although Mark had only received nine cars by the end of that warm March afternoon, he was still very satisfied with the test drives for the cars he had been provided with. That evening, he presented his findings to Mike and Francis for analysis. Here is what he had to say for each car:
@nicholasrams774 - FM Phegeus GCI
“It looks too much like the GEC - in other words, discreet to the point of blandness - and in addition to being under-braked, is hamstrung by an electronic speed limiter set at a pitiful 130 mph. Overall, not what Danny and Jessie are looking for.”
The FM Phegeus GCI is no longer under consideration.
@conan - URABUS 70ATB
“This is more like it - elegance enhanced by sporty aggression, and with ample power to boot. It may in fact be overkill, as evidenced by strong wheelspin off the line, but very little can stop it when it gets going.”
The URABUS 70ATB remains under consideration.
@Hilbert - Kiran Jinosu
“A bit on the small side, but otherwise looks OK. However, being rear-engined, it’s more challenging to drive than it should be, especially with its stiff spring rate. What really kills it, though, is its extremely long gearing and open diff; as such, it struggled to perform some of the more demanding stunt sequences. All things considered, not the right kind of car for the lead role.”
The Kiran Jinosu is no longer under consideration.
@DoctorNarfy - Shromet Dragon Spyder
“Oh great, another one of those boulevardiers. At least this one’s a convertible, but it understeers considerably (a deal-breaker when attempting some stunts), primarily because it weighs a lot more than we liked. It looks better than the Phegeus, though, but not by much. Overall, it’s still not what we’re looking for.”
The Shromet Dragon Spyder is no longer under consideration.
@Arn38fr - Decarlis Adriatique
“Another small sports coupe, but this one looks much better than the Kiran - or anything we’ve had so far, for that matter. A bit under-braked, but otherwise a strong performer despite having only a naturally aspirated V6 engine for propulsion - I think it’s because it’s so light that it doesn’t need a bucketload of power to stand out.”
The Decarlis Adriatique remains under consideration.
@mart1n2005 - Abingdon SVR 450
“Two words: Boy racer. That’s what I thought when I first saw it. Sure, it has the performance to back up its steroidal appearance, but Danny’s no boy racer; he wouldn’t want to be seen dead in this thing.”
The Abingdon SVR 450 is no longer under consideration.
@V4guy - Marossa Espada SP
“Yet another small sports coupe, but this one’s front-engined, rear-drive. However, it’s not as fast as the Decarlis, and although a pretty car in its own right, doesn’t quite look as good either. Overall, it’s the automotive equivalent of a little boy trying to do a big man’s job, and it doesn’t quite pull it off.”
The Marossa Espada SP is no longer under consideration.
@SyberRacer - Nikara Kazuki RS
“Another small, yellow, mid-engined coupe? Actually this one looks decent enough, but it’s not very comfortable at all - blame that on the wonky suspension tune. That aside, the severe turbo lag (inevitable with a turbo flat-four) and absence of a rear window make it less practical for stunts than I’d hoped. Overall, a case of beauty being little more than skin deep, and inferior to the Adriatique.”
The Nikara Kazuki RS is no longer under consideration.
@GetWrekt01 - Vector XSL 37TT
“At last, a proper mid-engined supercar, and one that looks the part. It may only have a V6 under its rear deck, but those twin turbos give it more than enough thrust to keep up with the bad guys - and it handles well to boot. As icing on the cake, it’s comfortable enough for daily use. I think they’ve saved the best for last, and it shows.”
The Vector XSL 37TT remains under consideration.
Interlude
The top three contenders were parked in a hangar at the southern edge of the backlot, while all the other cars were slowly taken away. Mike and Francis already knew that they could potentially have a tough time choosing a winner, but they also had another problem: What would happen to the entries that weren’t chosen? That evening, they began discussing their fate.
Mike: “There were quite a few cars that didn’t make the cut. What on earth are we going to do with them?”
Francis: “I have an excellent idea. The Abingdon, with its pumped-up looks, would be great for the henchmen.”
Mike: “I can agree on that, but what about the others?”
Francis: “Maybe they could all be used as background objects… to be blown up in the gunfight just before the chase.”
Mike: “If that forces Danny and Jessie to run towards the car that we will eventually pick as our winner, that’s fine by me. In the meantime, we’ve got three cars to examine further - the Urabus, the Decarlis and the Vector.”
To be concluded…
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After discussing with peeps in the Discord, I knew the suspension would be my downfall. However, I had already submitted by that time and therefore couldn’t resubmit it with the changes. Fortunately, I did see reason and alter the tune for when I inevitably sort out a lore thread for my company
And yeah. Until the forced induction revamp comes, allowing for single turbos on boxer 4s, turbo lag is definitely going to be a problem.
Overall, a fair critique of it. I wish good luck to those who made it through.
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I can’t really argue here, my car is clearly standing out quite a bit compared to the others
I understand exactly why a flat-four does not lend itself well to turbocharging as of now:
Also:
Of course it does, but not for the right reasons as far as the film’s lead role is concerned. Danny’s a classy kind of guy, and the boy-racer aesthetic you opted for is at odds with that. But at least it looks intimidating, which is exactly what the henchmen want - hence the fact that it was picked for that supporting role.
@SyberRacer I gotta tell you if it weren’t for your car, my car was both looking and performing a lot worse than it is now 
So, thank you lol
PS: @abg7 thanks for the positive and well written review, man. I genuinely appreciate it. Glad that I’ve come a long way with styling since my entry to your AGC1 
Dang! I don’t know what I was thinking when I set the top speed, anyways, congrats to those who made it.
Aw man. I guess the Espada was too lacking in power in the end. I was banking on its fairly low price and cornering oerformance, and even upgraded the engine to DOHC with VVT to give it some extra oomph. Well, it’ll get its time to shine some other day. Maybe a turbo version will be considered in the future…
MCC2 - Final Results
(continued from first part)
The next morning, Mike and Francis decided to take one last look at each of the three remaining cars, with the aim of determining a winner. For this purpose, they decided to scrutinize Mark’s findings more closely, and hence know more about their pros and cons. After further deliberation, they were eventually able to settle on a finishing order for the three finalists - and this is where they placed:
Third Place: @conan - URABUS 70ATB
At first glance, the URABUS 70ATB seems like the right choice for the lead role, with striking styling and impressive straight-line performance, which particularly endeared it to Francis. However, Mike couldn’t ignore the fact that over 700 horsepower would be overkill for Danny - or anyone else for that matter. This surfeit of grunt manifested itself in a lot of wheelspin off the line - more than was desired, in fact, making low-speed maneuvers more difficult than anticipated. As a result the URABUS 70ATB was relegated to third place, to Francis’ dismay.
The URABUS 70ATB is no longer in contention for the lead role. However, Mike realized that there could still be a use for it… as the car driven by the film’s main antagonist, Hans Kerner - an infamous smuggler and terrorist. He suggested painting the car black, and detuning its engine to make it more manageable. After a heated debate, Francis begrudgingly accepted Mike’s suggestion, before moving on to the remaining two cars.
Second Place: @Arn38fr - Decarlis Adriatique
Mike wasn’t fooled by the Adriatique’s small size compared to the other two finalists. This car was the least powerful one in the top three, but weighed so little that it made optimal use of its relatively modest output. It also handled like a dream, and overall was very good to drive. It was quite attractive, too, but would have been even better, though, if it weren’t under-braked; as such, Mark had to treat it with more care than he’d hoped for. Putting that aside, there was still one outstanding car that kept it from claiming the lead role.
The Decarlis Adriatique is no longer under consideration for the lead role. However, it will be used as Jessie’s car, in the scene where Jessie meets Danny for the first time and introduces him to his new job as an ION agent during the drive to ION HQ in Santa Monica, as Jessie explains the details of his new mission and what is at stake.
First Place: @GetWrekt01 - Vector XSL 37TT
No other car nailed the brief of speed, style, handling and prestige better than the Vector XSL 37TT. It was faster than the Decarlis by some margin, and just as agile through the corners. It was also quite comfortable as well, but crucially was not under-braked like the Decarlis, nor was it overpowered like the URABUS. As such, it was more manageable in all situations, especially when performing the more difficult stunts. And as icing on the cake, it was the best-looking car in the top three - even more so than the other two. It was no surprise, then, that Mike and Francis have chosen this car to star in the live-action film adaptation of Operation Incredible.
The Vector XSL 37TT has been chosen for the lead role in the final car chase in “Operation Incredible”.
Epilogue
Operation Incredible eventually premiered on July 7th, 1999 to rave reviews, with critics lauding it as “a wonderful update on a seminal TV classic, with nonstop thrills from start to finish”. In particular the final sequence drew acclaim for its suspense and intensity. The film made Mike Shore a household name overnight and attracted a new legion of fans to the hitherto dormant franchise. It also spawned a highly successful tie-in game, Operation Incredible: The Game, exclusively for the original PlayStation, featuring third-person shooter action interspersed with driving segments.
But this was just the start of the franchise’s rebirth. Four years later, Operation Incredible II premiered to rave reviews, with critics describing it as a worthy sequel to the original, with added intensity. Operation Incredible III, which premiered in 2007, took everything from the previous films and turned it up to 11. The rest, as they say, is history.
As for the Vector XSL 37TT, its starring role in the original film remains fondly remembered to this day; it has been seen as an icon ever since, as reflected in a sales surge shortly after its film release, and more recently by the car’s resale values, which are currently trending upwards. 20 years after the first film premiered, and with a sixth installment on the horizon, Mike finally bought one for himself - in an identical spec to the example used for filming. To this day, he considers the first film to be his finest work, and the Vector to be the best car he has ever driven.
Many thanks to everyone who participated! I hope you enjoyed this round as much as I did.
The final finishing order is as follows:
1st: @GetWrekt01
2nd: @Arn38fr
3rd: @conan
Whoever decides to host the next round must make a new thread for MCC3, as stipulated in the OP.
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Let’s gooooo! That extra effort of styling did pay off in the end. I made sure not to keep any loose ends in terms of power, brakes and suspension, learnt to do so from CSRs. Quite an enjoyable round and very nicely written epilogue, Abg.
I have a few themes in my head but I’m in the middle of judging AGC8. Conan already said he won’t be able to and Arn38fr is doing HHD. I guess I’ll take the responsibility for setting up MCC 3 then, but it’ll take some time.
I never expected to finish in second place! Thank you!
I applied Colin Chapman’s motto: “Light is Right!” to design this car.
@abg7 What did you expect in terms of braking force to find the Decarlis Adriatique’s braking acceptable? Your answer could help me for future car design.
Sorry for butting in like this but I might be able to help here. See sportiness brake fade in a sports car is a complete no-no. You don’t want any kind of fading while you’re driving fast and going through tight bends and corners. Anything above 2% is almost unacceptable for a dedicated sportscar. For your setup, you could’ve gone for at least 3 pistons per disc and about 280-300mm disc size
Hope this helps 
edit: This was my setup
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As an alternative, I came up with the following suggestion:
Leaving all other brake settings as they were previously, I switched to single-piston vented discs all around, 350mm wide at the front and 320mm at the rear. This change only adds half a kilogram of weight, and as such has no adverse impact on performance.
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Very good example of brake fade: in the movie Ford v Ferrari.
Perfectly depicted.
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Pistons and quality are best avoided for fade, pads and discs define your fade.
So I hate to be that guy, and know that my entry was binned for other reasons, but:
In accordance with my original premise, I have removed any mention of fuel consumption from the preliminary review for your entry.
Yeah but that’s not the point, is it. Because it was said in the review it implies that the car didn’t pass muster because of it. Similar to how it’s said in the review that my car has poor environmental resistance even though the brief said jack about that. Also, it’s said that wheelspin is the reason why my car didn’t do well although drivability is only a minor priority? Considering the sort of stunt movie people are doing I thought wheelspin would be beneficial. Guess I guessed wrong then.
Oh well. Onwards to the next one.
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I took a look at its gearing chart, and found out that even with long overdrive and traction control, it still has 9.5% wheelspin, which is still quite a lot:
From my own personal experience, up to 5.0% is acceptable in a RWD high-performance car, above which you start to have problems; above 10%, the car really struggles to get going from a standstill. Much of this wheelspin comes from the sheer amount of torque produced by the engine:
With a peak torque figure of 629 lb-ft at 5100 rpm, it should come as no surprise that the rear tires struggle to cope with all that grunt from a standing start.