My name is on the in-game credits, go and check it out yourself. I would send a screenshot, but I am not on my computer now.
Does Leonardo’s beta-tester star not confirm his participation? Does this page not show that Pleb beta-tests as well? I am sure that [size=150]any[/size] member of this community will tell you that me and Wizzy are very knowledgeable about the game, and its development.
This is getting ridiculous.
I can second that.
Also check out mine: Bart Voorjans (Designer)
[quote=“Jakgoe”]The game is certainly still in development. You can’t assume that, just because the devs have not posted an update recently, it does not mean that development is halted. All of the core team was recently in Germany for a highly important meeting between them, and the core of the testing team. Naturally, you can’t assume that a very small team can make an AAA quality game at the same speed that a larger company could make it.
It IS on Steam: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f … d=93233471
Typically, the devs are able to not just post a little written update each week, but also a narrated video outlining the game’s progress.
Everyone who you have been discussing this with
a) Is a beta-tester.
b) Was a beta-tester.
c) Me, who will hopefully be a beta-tester at some point.
And, since we have all been following the progress of the game, can certainly confirm development has not been halted.[/quote]
Thanks for the Steam link. I have no idea why it didn’t show up on the Steam dashboard.
The latest “update” video, which was 2 weeks old, showed no improvement.
Again, its really really simple. I will wait to hear from a developer about the progress of the game as it currently stands.
No matter how much you complain about it, I’m still going to wait to hear from an adult who is officially part of the development team.
That simple.
Stop trying to turn it into an argument. I spent money. I found out there hasn’t been an update since April. So, I am ASKING THE DEVELOPERS, as is the title of the Forum this is posted in, if the game is still in development.
Plain and simple.
I don’t see your name on there, anywhere.
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And no, a Forum “star” isn’t proof of anything except you have a fancy star on your forum name.
AGAIN, its really simple. I am waiting to hear from a developer. SIMPLE.
Stop turning this into an argument.
[quote=“PowerSports420”]
I don’t see your name on there, anywhere.
…
And no, a Forum “star” isn’t proof of anything except you have a fancy star on your forum name.
AGAIN, its really simple. I am waiting to hear from a developer. SIMPLE.
Stop turning this into an argument.[/quote]
Right here, buddy:
And yes, the star is just a star, and means nothing, but the text underneath that reads “Beta Tester”, may or may not be important, depending on your sanity level.
Edit: The problem is YOU. You are the one disputing the validity of the testers’ status, and denying that the game is in development.
Killrob/Zeussy/Daffy, please end this madness.
First of all, I see real names on that screenshot. Not forum names. So no, still don’t see a name.
And I could care less if you are or are not a beta tester. No matter how important you think you are, you are NOT a developer.
Stop attacking me for asking the developers a question.
I don’t understand how so many people can ignore such a simple concept.
I posted in the “Ask A Developer” forum, and then asked the developers if the game is still in production, and what improvements have been made since the last update.
I will not take an answer from anyone except one of the four developers.
Period.
I dont care how important you are because you are one of 10.000 buying the game with your 35 $, but betatesters work on the game on a DAILY basis, testing DAILY updates on the game, made by the developers. They definetly contribute an important part to DEVELOPING the game. Its pretty short-sighted and ignorant calling a beta-tester someone who is not part of the development team, as they pretty much help the development of the game into making it a stable and bugfree game.
But sure. Wait for a dev to get here, reply, and tell you the exact same thing in one post all of us told you two to three times already.
[quote=“WizzyThaMan”]
I dont care how important you are because you are one of 10.000 buying the game with your 35 $, but betatesters work on the game on a DAILY basis, testing DAILY updates on the game, made by the developers. They definetly contribute an important part to DEVELOPING the game. Its pretty short-sighted and ignorant calling a beta-tester someone who is not part of the development team, as they pretty much help the development of the game into making it a stable and bugfree game.
But sure. Wait for a dev to get here, reply, and tell you the exact same thing in one post all of us told you two to three times already.[/quote]
I could care less whether or not a Beta tester does a minute of work, or a million hours. They still aren’t a developer, they are an employee, or a contributor, or whatever you want to call it.
Its so simple, and yet you people can’t seem to understand. I am not asking you. I am not asking any Beta tester. I am not asking the trolls. I am asking a direct question to the developers.
And unlike you, I really hope the developers have the intelligence to spot a simple question/concern.
Me: “is the game still in development” “what changes have been made since April”
Developer “yes we are still in development, although progress is slow. We have fixed a few gltiches and wil be adding blah blah blah update in 2 weeks blah blah blah”
I don’t need a bunch of noise and arguments from trolls and beta testers. i asked the developers a question. they will answer it, or they won’t. the rest of you have no place to answer a question that wasn’t asked to you.
You are posting on a public forum where people actually have the right to reply as they wish. If you dont want people to reply to your ‘simple’ question which has been answered by many of us who have been around for over a year (most of us) and know what is going on, then either send a private message to Daffyflyer, KillRob, or zeussy and get your answer from there, and stop being ignorant and calling us either immature, not intelligent, or saying we are arguing. The fact 5 people here have told you the exact same thing, should open your eyes and maybe accept the fact that you already have gotten your answer and dont necesarrily require a developer to tell you the same thing.
You are a selfish person, willing to have the devs reply to your question while they can spend the time developing the game. I’m glad there isnt 20 of you everyday or else this game would actually be halted in progress.
[quote=“PowerSports420”]
I could care less whether or not a Beta tester does a minute of work, or a million hours. They still aren’t a developer, they are an employee, or a contributor, or whatever you want to call it.
Its so simple, and yet you people can’t seem to understand. I am not asking you. I am not asking any Beta tester. I am not asking the trolls. I am asking a direct question to the developers.
And unlike you, I really hope the developers have the intelligence to spot a simple question/concern.
Me: “is the game still in development” “what changes have been made since April”
Developer “yes we are still in development, although progress is slow. We have fixed a few gltiches and wil be adding blah blah blah update in 2 weeks blah blah blah”
I don’t need a bunch of noise and arguments from trolls and beta testers. i asked the developers a question. they will answer it, or they won’t. the rest of you have no place to answer a question that wasn’t asked to you.[/quote]
I’m sorry? Did you just say a beta tester is not a form of developer? While their title might not say “developer” the definition of “developer” is “a person or thing that develops something”, which the testers most certainly do.
You are calling me a troll? I hate to use idiotic phrases, but “I can’t even”.
Look at the “Developer Questions” section of the forum. You will see that many, if not most, of the questions are answered by the beta-testers and “trolls”, which seems to be your name for the rest of the great community. In fact, the knowledge of the game, and willingness to answer question, is one of the biggest reasons that this community is great.
[quote=“WizzyThaMan”]You are posting on a public forum where people actually have the right to reply as they wish. If you dont want people to reply to your ‘simple’ question which has been answered by many of us who have been around for over a year (most of us) and know what is going on, then either send a private message to Daffyflyer, KillRob, or zeussy and get your answer from there, and stop being ignorant and calling us either immature, not intelligent, or saying we are arguing. The fact 5 people here have told you the exact same thing, should open your eyes and maybe accept the fact that you already have gotten your answer and dont necesarrily require a developer to tell you the same thing.
You are a selfish person, willing to have the devs reply to your question while they can spend the time developing the game. I’m glad there isnt 20 of you everyday or else this game would actually be halted in progress.[/quote]
yes, you have the right to reply as you wish. and yes, you have the right to be nice about it, or be a dick about. and for whatever reason, all but one of you has chosen to be a dick.
you answered the question, and I don’t consider it an answer from the developer. So we disagree. its called being human. stop causing problems, and stop putting words in my mouth.
[quote=“Jakgoe”]
[quote=“PowerSports420”]
I could care less whether or not a Beta tester does a minute of work, or a million hours. They still aren’t a developer, they are an employee, or a contributor, or whatever you want to call it.
Its so simple, and yet you people can’t seem to understand. I am not asking you. I am not asking any Beta tester. I am not asking the trolls. I am asking a direct question to the developers.
And unlike you, I really hope the developers have the intelligence to spot a simple question/concern.
Me: “is the game still in development” “what changes have been made since April”
Developer “yes we are still in development, although progress is slow. We have fixed a few gltiches and wil be adding blah blah blah update in 2 weeks blah blah blah”
I don’t need a bunch of noise and arguments from trolls and beta testers. i asked the developers a question. they will answer it, or they won’t. the rest of you have no place to answer a question that wasn’t asked to you.[/quote]
I’m sorry? Did you just say a beta tester is not a form of developer? While their title might not say “developer” the definition of “developer” is “a person or thing that develops something”, which the testers most certainly do.
You are calling me a troll? I hate to use idiotic phrases, but “I can’t even”.
Look at the “Developer Questions” section of the forum. You will see that many, if not most, of the questions are answered by the beta-testers and “trolls”, which seems to be your name for the rest of the great community. In fact, the knowledge of the game, and willingness to answer question, is one of the biggest reasons that this community is great.[/quote]
YES, a beta tester is NOT a developer. There are 4 developers on this game, and thats that. Deal with it. Beta testers are very important, but, they are not developers. I asked a question directly towards a developer, and thats where it stands.
And no, I didn’t call you a troll. Where does it say that? Where is your name mentioned at all? Are you being rude? yes. Are you making assumptions? yes. But did I call you a troll? No. I never mentioned your name ever before in my life, so chill out kid. Just like the person above you, your are putting words into my mouth that have never been spoken.
I ASKED A QUESTION TO THE DEVELOPERS. I will only accept an answer from one of those four people.
If you beta testers had said, “yes it is in development, I’m sure a developer will confirm soon”. Then that would of been ok. But instead, you turned it into an argument, accusing me of attacking the game’s progress. I asked a simple question, and I am waiting for a simple answer.
Alright, let’s get in a word from a dev here into this rapidly expanding thread. 
Yes, the game is still in development. Progress has been slower than usual in the last two months because a) the Australian part of the team moved from Melbourne to Wellington and b) the (then) Kiwi part of the team was on a EU trip for three weeks after not having a proper vacation for some 2 years time. During that time I was the only working member of the team, but of course limited in what I could do: I’m not a programmer or artist, I just do production stuff and balancing, etc. The videos you’re seeing on Youtube for instance.
I’m curious actually, how come you call adding the scenarios to the game “no progress”? That is a huge milestone, as it for the first time puts all the design tools into proper context and lets people design their own solutions to various problems you might encounter in the tycoon part of the game. I agree that it doesn’t look like much when we’ve “just” added costs and manhours to the game, but under the hood that is a massive undertaking. To give you a little insight, check this out, and think of that this is just a tiny fraction of all the things that need to gel together in order to make a playable game: docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc … sp=sharing
We put out updates when they make sense and they are done. We’d like to be quicker but the reality is that this game is a massive, complex undertaking, not to mention that we’re only 3 core developers. Your perceptions seems to be rather selective too (not criticizing, just pointing out); when I check on KSP I see their last proper update was 17th Dec 2013… we’re faster than that. 
And they planned on “just adding a few numbers”, i.e. budgets, etc., too!
Anyway, if you don’t like what you see that’s fine, we’re working on it as hard as we can and that definitely won’t be enough for everyone’s taste. I’d suggest you pick up the game again once it’s done. This Early Access thing is not necessarily a fun ride.
Cheers!
[quote=“Killrob”]Alright, let’s get in a word from a dev here into this rapidly expanding thread.
Yes, the game is still in development. Progress has been slower than usual in the last two months because a) the Australian part of the team moved from Melbourne to Wellington and b) the (then) Kiwi part of the team was on a EU trip for three weeks after not having a proper vacation for some 2 years time. During that time I was the only working member of the team, but of course limited in what I could do: I’m not a programmer or artist, I just do production stuff and balancing, etc. The videos you’re seeing on Youtube for instance.
I’m curious actually, how come you call adding the scenarios to the game “no progress”? That is a huge milestone, as it for the first time puts all the design tools into proper context and lets people design their own solutions to various problems you might encounter in the tycoon part of the game. I agree that it doesn’t look like much when we’ve “just” added costs and manhours to the game, but under the hood that is a massive undertaking. To give you a little insight, check this out, and think of that this is just a tiny fraction of all the things that need to gel together in order to make a playable game: docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc … sp=sharing
We put out updates when they make sense and they are done. We’d like to be quicker but the reality is that this game is a massive, complex undertaking, not to mention that we’re only 3 core developers. Your perceptions seems to be rather selective too (not criticizing, just pointing out); when I check on KSP I see their last proper update was 17th Dec 2013… we’re faster than that. And they planned on “just adding a few numbers”, i.e. budgets, etc., too!
Anyway, if you don’t like what you see that’s fine, we’re working on it as hard as we can and that definitely won’t be enough for everyone’s taste. I’d suggest you pick up the game again once it’s done. This Early Access thing is not necessarily a fun ride.
Cheers![/quote]
Dear Killrob,
Thank you so much for your response. I really appreciate all the time you put into your very detailed answer, and I also thank you for all the hard work you put into the game. You can definitely keep my $35, lol, and I will be trying to convince my friends to play it with me. I will also continue to be a proud supporter of this game across the social media sites I have access too.
I did not mean to insult the scenarios, but I’m not really a “follow the rules” person when it comes to automotives. My main attraction to the game was the engine building sandbox. I hope to see the V6 soon! Already have all the bore-stroke measurements and etc from my Mustang waiting to be entered!
Yeah, I know about KSP’s downfall. Idfk what happened, but something is not right in the background. But before that, they were fairly regular. I guess they were a bad example, haha, you guys are beating them atm for sure.
My only suggestion, is to get this thing on STEAM asap. For whatever reason, if you search “Automation” in the Store, or the Early Access Store, it doesn’t show up at all…??? Steam may be a corporate hog, but they sure know how to generate sales!
Good luck and I look forward to future updates!!!
THANKS!!!
Thank you for your reasonable reply!
Ohh yes, we’re coming to Steam… after the upcoming update we’ll polish up till Early Access release.
Hmm, looky looky, what do my eyes spy here on my Steam games library!?
OMFG how did you do that!?! Is that your developer version?
I can’t wait till that is on my Steam list!!!
Edit: Das ist gut, ya?
Yup, that’s what you get when you “create” a game on Steam. It doesn’t actually attach to any game files yet, but it’s still kinda exciting
Regarding development news etc. what do you reckon would be the best way to dispel people’s fears? Currently we post any decently interesting news on the front page, moddb and steam greenlight make a youtube video about every semi-major feature we work on, do a development livestream every few days and post random little posts on facebook and twitter.
It does seem we need to improve our communication, as a few people have mentioned they have no idea what is going on/if we’ve all run away to the Bahamas
Anybody have thoughts/suggestions?
I don’t know if there’s any way to maybe put out a monthly newsletter via PM (Don’t know if there’s an efficient way to send it to ALL members) or have some sort of ‘Live News’ feature implemented in the launcher, and would display the most recent news etc when the user is connected to the internet?
Just firing ideas off the top of my head here .