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Exactly why I made it available to anyone to DM me to clear a certain body. I’d rather clearing it out case by case over letting a lot of bodies that would be “outdated” be counted in and less experienced players lose points over it. It’s more of a guideline type of rule that I am willing to make exceptions for, but it’s there to set a standard.
Reason I went with WES7 is that the 80s was rough times where performance was heavily put to the side in name of efficiency and regulations. And the show “Brake Line” is a Fruinian show, so would make sense to use cars that were allowed to be imported to Fruinian…
Yes, I’ve acknowledged that this can be the case. The way I see it you are going to submit the last model year of the car which matches the rule set. Having a later model may make it easier over an earlier model but you get the choice to submit an earlier year if you wish to do so (Aka you don’t have to) but to make it fair to those who do, the lore/ad reasons are on the low prio list which can give you a bonus in that section.
This is what I’d like to call a curve ball. I just wanted to take the focus away from tires to suspension tuning / aero tinkering which was also more prominent at the time in means of factory tunes as well.
Wait, so, we’re making hot hatches but the focus is not on the suspension tuning or aero tinkering? May I ask, what are we supposed to focus on?
I think you misread that. He said he wanted us to focus on suspension tuning/ aero tinkering INSTEAD of focusing on tires.
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In my defense it’s 5am and I’ve had quite a lot of wine.
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Just to double check, does this mean Car Model and Trim, and Engine Family and Variant? Or is it okay for the Engine Family to be older, for lore reasons…
I really don’t want to beat a dead horse, especially because I’ve complained about it in ALL, but I really do need to throw my hat into the “why body year restrictions???” camp. It’s a pretty redundant rule that makes it more work for both people making entries and you as a judge, while a simple “keep it period accurate” rule would serve the purpose you’re wanting better AND make it easier on everyone involved.
I’m probably a bit biased here, considering how often I shoehorn older chassis into newer facelifts for Lore Reasons™️ (for the record, not doing that this time for once!), but it really does just feel too restrictive in a pretty unfriendly way to the players, especially if you’re a weirdo not trying to statmax by making a 1989mobile. You’re already at a disadvantage by not making the most modern thing possible, it doesn’t really feel fair to add an extra penalty just for having an old body too, even if the rest of the car is perfectly period accurate.
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does this apply to engine family or just to the variant?
I’m expecting this to apply to the engine variants used, not the families on which they are based.
It’s the varient of the car, yes, you may use an older if you wish to do so. As long as it’s within the years brought up.
For the variants of the engine. Not the family, the end results essentially.
Ive said this many times here and on ALL, the rule is there but I can easily make exceptions upon request for case by case basis. Keeping it open can confuse the less experienced participants that they can use a body from 60s which puts them at a disadvantage.
I don’t see why this is made a bigger issue as I’ve said it multiple times that if you wish to use something specific, just DM me and clear with me. For ALL I allowed bodies from different years for 3 participants, and also allowed a sedan body.
The rule is there more as a guideline to set a standard. That is all.
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do we HAVE to use medium tires or would the hard tire suffice (yes i probably know the answer but im just checking).
The rules state that a minimum reliability of 65 is needed,
but it doesn’t show up as a priority in judging.
Is it part of the judging/point system, or can I just get mad power on 65…?
Since @Rambow brought up the issue of tire compounds:
You must use medium compound tires and set the quality on the wheel/tire slider to 0, regardless of how many techpool points were allocated to that area. And I propose that those tires should also be radial, for realism’s sake.
Hard long life tires are simply not grippy enough for a hot hatch of this era anyway, although they would’ve been adequate for lesser trims.
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You must use medium compound but the choice of radial or crossply is up to you, not sure what advantage you’d get from crossply tho
It won’t be judged, but the minimum may increase, I’m doing some testing to see, might increase it but make it engine reliability only. We’ll see…
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