Hyper car [Final scores]

Yeah so I had to investigate why my safety was so low compared to everyone else and since I’m pre-beta still its no issue. I mean safety of 68 compared to upper-70s and mid-80s doesn’t make much sense especially considering carbon fiber…until you realize like I just did that the car doesn’t use a carbon fiber body but rather glued aluminum. Apparently I must have went glued aluminum with upped sliders in some attempt to save money…it seems to have quite the opposite effect. :blush:

So changing it to carbon fiber and moving some sliders nets me a competitiveness score 146.3, a considerable increase, and a desirability score of 7110 (just need to find that extra 65 you got there strop haha). Exchanging the 1422 engine over the 1029 doesn’t seem to have much effect other than killing economy, although I’ve hardly played around with it. I feel quite foolish having not played with those options more, but oh well it at least adds some variety to the competition. It’ll also mean I can say the first series of the car wasn’t a CF-tub because of a lack of tech or something and later editions can be CF. I’m not gonna say I wouldn’t be happier competing for first, but that’s life :laughing:

I voted for two others, and myself.

Why? because I made it and I like the way it looks! (still do)

sebesseg don’t feel bad, my car is all aluminum, I didn’t know 150 was going to be the lead, I just wanted to make a version of the car I liked the most and that best fit my company. My entry is literally just a new trim of a existing car and engine.

Mine is the same way. It is a car my company would build…an OHV V8 muscle car, save for the twin turbo setup (which would totally be swapped for a supercharger if they were available), with a very simple fixture selection primarily for functionality, as a muscle car should be. It achieved its hyper desirability in the 140s with posh interior amenities, AWD, and a space-age chassis and body.

Don’t get me wrong, it definitely isn’t/wasn’t a bad choice in any respect. I just wish I had paid a bit more attention to my choices lol



Many of the final scores are very close.

So we have this years best 200+mph hyper cars. This is the car category where the term screaming death machine really comes to mind. It was a close competition and unlike last year we only had two engine fires this time around.

From a small company in France the Pulsar 7200K
The Pulsar is an entirely carbon-fiber body and frame. Power is supplied by a 3L turbo charged magnesium/ALSI 20 valve DOHC inline 4 that produces a mere 399HP. Power is managed through a sequential double clutch 7 speed transmission. Three piston carbon ceramic brakes stop the Pulsar in 101feet. Top speed is only just above 200mph. While this car suffers from a rather small engine, the engine does produce a rather wide torque curve from 2500-7000 rpm. It is also the lightest at only 1.3t with the cleanest emissions and best fuel economy. The interior features hand made leather seats with all of the current bells and whistles. While it still doesn’t have the best road manners around we found it to be a fun car to whip around corners in town, being rear wheel drive helps add to the fun.

Pascal Union Works of England
London 4R-XT
The London sports a carbon-fiber monocoque with aluminum body. Its 5.7L twin turbo pushrod V8 produces 1007HP at the crank. The engine is very peaky with the fun not really starting until after 6000rpm. Power is sent through a sequential double clutch 7 speed all wheel drive system with a 50/50 split. 6 piston carbon ceramic brakes bring it to a stop in just over 100 feet. It comes with luxury racing buckets and all of the bells and whistles. One thing that did catch our attention was the 5 point harness was of the highest quality. We were able to find videos of cars hitting the wall at over 150mph and the occupants walking away uninjured. Of course all of the safety comes at a price other than just the price. This car weighs a lot. 2.1t and because of that weight and the late power of the engine even the 400hp Pulsar was able to beat it across the line in the standing km. We thought its split down the middle twin opening hood was unique though we were glad we shouldn’t have to work on it during the testing phase.

Griffin Automotive
Griffin Ddraig
The Griffin is an all carbon-fiber car. It is powered by a 6.1L 32V DOHC ALSI engine (say that 3 times fast). The engine has no fuel octane requirement and is rumored to run on just about anything flammable. It is peaky but not to terrible. Power is sent through a sequential double clutch 7 speed to the rear wheels with the opportunity for plenty of wheel spin all the way through 4th gear. The Ddraig is one of the few to break 200mph on the standing km. Its 6 piston calipers on carbon ceramic disks bring the Ddraig to a stop in just over 95 feet. The sport bucket seats are the typical hard plastic, though the entertainment is still well appointed. Even with all of the driver aids the Ddraig can be quite a handful to keep on the track

Desert Mountains Automotive
H112 (Benchmark)
It appears that DMA’s solution to a Hyper car was take something basic and throw a bunch of money at it. Even then they couldn’t get it very comfortable.

Boss Motorsports
432 GT
This was probably the scariest car we have ever driven! 1700 horsepower to the rear wheels! It is literally what you expect from an insane overpowered car with only one thing on its mind. Its fun with 400+ftlbs of torque up until you reach 4000rpm then it gets insane peaking at 1412ftlbs at 6500rpm and a reasonably flat power curve from 6500rpm to its redline at 8000rpm 1777hp at 7100rpm. So maybe I should talk about the car some. It is an all carbon-fiber car mid engine rear wheel drive thing of insanity. The engine is a 7.1L V8 twin turbo with 5 valves per cylinder. A manual 7 speed transmission with a viscous differential tries its best to put power to the ground. 6 piston vented disk brakes stop the insanity in just 95 feet. Hand made leather seats and every bell and whistle imaginable round out the interior. Getting the 432 GT up to its top speed was no walk in the park it took us the better part of the day to successfully accomplish this feat. Two of our drivers refused to try after spinning at over 250mph. Even the STIG turned down a second attempt. Even with traction control on the rear tires were spinning all the way past 100mph. And its not the fault of the traction control it is a quality system. We eventually hired the STIG’s insane cousin, the one that is supposed to have a third testicle. After a couple of attempts and taking the entire width of the runway multiple times he was able to max it out a 282mph.

GSI Leviathan
The Leviathan is an all carbon-fiber rear wheel drive car. The engine is a 7 liter V8 twin turbo DOHC with 4 valves per cylendar that produces right at 1000hp. It has a very flat torque curve of 790ftlbs from 3000 to 6000rpm. Power is sent through a sequential double clutch 7 speed transmission. 3 piston/2 piston vented disk brakes stop the leviathan in a little over 96 feet. Hand crafted leather, luxury infotainment and a 4 point harness rounds out the interior. For a car in this class the Leviathan didn’t always seem like it was trying to kill you at every moment. There were a few times where we would push a little too far and the we would wind up going straight for the grass so its not one you can relax entirely with.

Lenraj Odin
The Odin is like most in this class a all carbon-fiber car. The chassis in this one is notably stiffer than most and has tighter tolerances at all the gaps, except for the clearance between the hood and the top of the engine which unfortunately caused some cracking in the paint by the end of our testing. The engine is a 5.8 liter DOHC 32 valve V8 twin turbo that produces 1183hp and 878ftlbs of torque. The transmission is a sequential double clutch 6 speed. It has 4 wheel carbon-ceramic disk brakes with 6 pistons each. The Odin will stop in just over 95 feet. The sport seats are reasonably comfortable, a full infotainment system and 4 point harnesses rounded out the interior. One thing to note is that the driver assists were top notch, probably about the only thing that kept us from ending up in the grass more often than we did. Even with the top notch stability control the Odin always seemed to want to suddenly strike at the slightest mistake.

Polmot
Extravaganza
The extravaganza is like most of its brethren is all carbon-fiber. It does use a rather small 4L flatplane turbo charged V8 that produces a mere 780hp. The Extravaganza is a bit sluggish until you get the engine past 4500rpm. Unfortunately it also weighs a good 300kg more than any of the other sub 1000hp cars which causes it to take 18.78s on the standing kilometer. Max speed is 219. Stopping is very good at 93 feet 8 inches which will test the seat belts every time you really mash the brakes. It is quite comfortable with hand stitched leather and a luxury sound system. Once you get into the power band of the engine the car seems happy to slide around the corners sideways in a mostly controlled fassion.

Solo Cougar
The Cougar is an all carbon-fiber all wheel drive car. It is also one of the few that went with a naturaly aspirated engine. The Cougars engine is a 5.0L V8 40 valve engine that produces 686hp and 450ftlbs of torque. While not overwhelmingly powerful good aerodynamics give it a top speed of 251.8mph. The Cougar is the most comfortable and is easy to handle, it wasn’t exhausting to drive around the track for hours on end. Eventually the engine did start to overheat which brought the fun to an end until it cooled. The interior features hand stitched leather, premium infotainment and a 4 point harness that had 1.5 inch straps so thin we concerned whether or not they would hold in a crash.
Manhell Automotive

SME
Bakeneko SS
Push rods! Who other than SME builds crazy cars with 2 valve push rod engines. So under The Bakeneko’s well crafted carbon-fiber exterior sits a 847hp 7.0L turbo charged push rod V8. But heck it has a good wide power band and its torque peaks at just 3700rpm. Even with only 847hp it does the standing km in 17.82 seconds the next best makes 1000hp and beats it by only 0.36 seconds. The body and engine are well built and smooth. The 6 speed sequential transmission is one of the best we tested with very smooth and quick shifts. The power is sent to all four tires with a 42/58 split. Stopping distance is a respectable 94 feet with 6 piston calipers in the front and 1 piston calipers in the back on carbon-ceramic disks. The interior uses a set of sport seats that are surprisingly comfortable. A full entertainment system with Blue-ray and 12 speakers rounds out the interior, with everything having a very good fit and finish. The Bakeneko is a very high quality car tying DMA’s submission for $45000 less.

Mulholland
Firefly
The Firefly uses a glued aluminum frame with a carbon-fiber body that is exquisite. Everything fits so tight ans smooth the chassis from an engineering standpoint is a work of art. The engine is a 4.9L turbocharged V8 with 1029hp that is happiest above 5500rpm. The sequential seven speed transmission sends power to all four tires with a 34/66 split. Shifts are smooth and precise. Stopping can cause whiplash with a stopping distance of 87 feet. With so much attention to detail the active wing was a dismal disappointment. It would often get stuck in one position or the other and at the end of our testing sessions it actually had a large portion break off on the track. The Firefly is very comfortable, and comes equipped with a very advanced array of drivers assists that did a good job of keeping the car pointed in the proper direction.

M
Atlas
The Atlas is an all carbon-fiber rear wheel drive 1077hp beast. The body and frame are well built with even gaps throughout. The engine is happy from 5000 to its 9000rpm redline. It has a smooth shifting 7 speed sequential gear box. The brakes are a little odd, with carbon-ceramic disk with 4 piston calipers in the front and a vented disk with a 1 piston caliper in the back. Despite or maybe because of its odd set up it has an impressive 90 foot stopping distance. The luxury seats and infotainment are high quality with a very high level of detail. The sound system features multiple speakers in each position that are custom matched for frequency range. The driver assists are top notch but are still challenged by the engines power.

Kurena TLS
The Kurena is an all Carbon-fiber rear wheel drive car with a magnesium block twin turbo charged 7.0L V8. The engine produces 1000hp at 7100rpm and has a fairly flat torque curve from 3800 to 7000rpm. The Kurena uses a sequential single clutch 7 speed transmission to power the rear wheels and does so without doing too bad at lighting the tires on fire. It is stopped by a set of carbon-ceramic disk brakes with 4 pistons on front and 2 in the rear. The interior features hand crafted leather and a 12 speaker surround sound with a blue ray player. A full suite of driver assists help keep the car on the track and out of the grass. The ride was quiet and comfortable without feeling much of the out of control you would expect from a 1000hp super. Despite this much of the car felt cheaper than the rest, but for less than $200,000 I guess that is fine.

I find it fitting that Razyx won the design section. I’m a bit surprised I came 3rd, though! (I didn’t think I would place at all).

This was a fun exercise, with a lot of different approaches to the range of scores. Would do again!

WooHoo! Score for American pushrods! 6th place is quite surprising, considering I had to rebuild it in only 2 hours after updating to open-beta before submitting /facepalm

Not sure what nialloftara used in his (he probably mentioned it but too lazy to go back and look and he is also fond of the mighty pushrod), but my OHV engines aren’t dead just quite yet. It’s still the 5th fastest car with the 5th lowest hp, and the 5th cheapest car in the field. I’d say, all around, the SME has proven it’s place. I’ve been working on this car since before Steam (those who have read my company page probably remember when I introduced it), so I wasn’t entirely unfamiliar with it’s setup, but it was originally tuned for a GT market. The LS7 twin-turbo was borrowed from my BSLL entry and detuned for stability (I didn’t have to make the 1hp:1kg requirement here thankfully), and with the AWD is quite manageable both around corners and in a straight line. It was tested on The Ring at 7:32, placing it just behind the 911 GT2 and Turbo S (and probably in a tie with the Shelby GT350R. Much like the 911, it has a simple design for utility with a powerful punch at the throttle.

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grabbing 4th place while literally everyone is spitting on it because it’s just plain ugly.

somehow im not surprised.

I note the reviews of the Buffalo and Salamander are not yet out!

Possibly due to doing an extended review of those cars?

I think you were more then generous with the small blurbs for all of the other cars, nice tidy little summery of what they were and what you liked about them. :slight_smile:

Certainly given the criteria was desirability, eachand every car here was more than competent by game standards, so it makes sense to dole out praise all around.

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Not sure what nialloftara used in his (he probably mentioned it but too lazy to go back and look and he is also fond of the mighty pushrod), [/quote]

While I do enjoy the odd push rod or 16 now and then this is literally just a hopped up version of the production Buffalo same engine family and everything, and while I did try out the the old school approach during development I couldn’t get 500hp and 23+ mpg from a 8 liter OHV without direct injection which typically I try to avoid that in my company cars or turbos which goes against the history of the Buffalo. So the powerplant is an 8 liter 32 valve dohc with variable timing and lift.

I am amazed I maintained second through the looks category you people had some nice looking cars, can’t wait for the extended review, the short blurbs you provided the other cars are excellent, both informative and funny, you’re going above and beyond for us on this contest zabhawkin.

Congrats to Razyx for being for voted as the most liked design. I’ll say I voted for it as my first choice, kinda reminded me of a ninja…of sorts, at least the front anyway lol. It seems I had a good amount of votes as people’s second favorite, that’s cool. Overall would definitely compete again.

@Zabhawkin: Excellent review blurb! I love it. Though I will say the active wing breaking is a feature, clearly. The car knows you want to go faster so it gets rid of pesky annoyances like wings so that you can go faster nods

Yes I plan on doing longer reviews, I have an Idea how I want to do it but its not much more than that. I hope to have the last 2 done by the end of the weekend.

I felt the typical one line snark just wasn’t fitting of these cars.

Most years its easy to decide which is the best car, but this year there were so many good cars to choose from. The top two were no exception, both are excellent cars, they also took two totally different approaches. While the Griffon Gear Salamander is literally a 1500 horse power fire breathing lizard doing its best to rip your face off. The Centauri Buffalo is a 900 horsepower fireball that just slaps you around but does so at half of the price. The Salamander goes faster accelerates harder and is better looking (big office poll) but the Buffalo can be driven for hours without overheating, or refueling every 30 minutes, and is quite frankly more comfortable and a dream to drive.

Centauri
Buffalo
This is an all aluminum body, front engine all wheel drive car. We were initially saddened by the fact that they had been making that body for 6 years, but the new engine and trim upgrades did not disappoint. The engine is an all aluminum naturally aspirated 8 liter V8 with 4 valves per cylinder. Yep no forced induction here. Each part of the rotating assembly is hand balanced and matched with the other components which consist of a billet steel crank, titanium connecting rods and lightweight forged pistons. The oil journals are also honed out to ensure proper oiling to all parts of the engine. The intake and exhaust runners are also hand smoothed and matched to the manifolds. Fuel is delivered by a multi-point fuel injection system with multi-hole injectors. The exhaust is routed through a matched race tubular header. The engine produces 460ft-lbs of torque at idle with a peak of 656 at 6700RPM. Power is sent to the wheels via a 6 speed manual and a geared limited slip differential, with a power split if 37/63. Shifts are exceptionally smooth and quick. The brakes are 6 piston carbon ceramic disks all the way around, which stops the Buffalo in 97 feet. Handmade leather seats 4 point harnesses and a full spread for the entertainment. The drivers assists were top notch as well. The steering was light and provided plenty of feedback. Centauri chose a very old-school approach to the Buffalo while paying attention to the little details that make this car what it is. The Buffalo was also the easiest to drive with only the Solo Cougar coming even close. For the price there is no comparison this car is one of the best, it is very well balanced in all facets it truly is a shame to call this car second best.

Gryphon Gear
Salamander
With an approach that was much less finesse and much more brute force Gryphon Gear built the Salamander which looks like it has the face of its namesake. The body and frame are built out of high quality carbon fiber and all of the fixtures are top quality. The design is bold and aggressive. The engine maintains the bold and aggressive approach with a 6.5 liter flatplane dual overhead cam 40 valve twin turbo charged V8. The engine is made out of magnesium with AlSi heads. Fuel is delivered by direct injection. The mixture is so rich that flames often erupt out of the exhaust. This all of course gives us a throttle response that borders on ESP. The engine produces 1132ft-lbs of torque at 6400, and 1516 horsepower at 7500 RPM. The Salamander sends its power through a sequential 7 speed transmission with a geared limited slip differential to the rear wheels. The brakes are 4 piston vented disks front and 2 piston vented disks in the rear. We experienced no fading what so ever with the brakes and were able to stop in an impressive 92 feet. The interior is hand stitched leather with a deluxe entertainment system. The drivers assists were actually better quality than the impressive Buffalo, which with the Salamander was necessary. The Salamander is by far the quicker and faster of the top two even though it was often a handful to keep it on the track at times even with the extremely well built stability system in the on position. The Salamander was a hoot to drive and would stick its tail out on the turns basically on command. We were able to even master a full drift with smoke and flames billowing out the back.

In the end we had to make a decision on which one was better. What made this so tough is that both cars are very exceptional and take completely different mind sets. What won us over to choosing the Salamander was the way it looked.

applauds

Congratulations, both of you, and thanks for hosting the event, Zabhawkin!!

Woah, there was so much activity that this thread fell off the first page of active threads bybtge time I got back. Thanks for the writeup! Bold, aggressive, and brute force was definitely the Gryphon Hear way of 2012.

By the way, the spelling of my company name varied a bit… But I note that Griffin Automotive is a completely different company run by royalstig, so it should perhaps be corrected to prevent confusion.