
to find out how fast I could drive your cars around a track. So let’s start with the start:
Stage 1 & 2: Tight and Technical
As usual I’m going to go in precisely the same order as before, except at the end of each segment I’ll be posting a reminder of my own car’s stats. And as usual, each car gets their own personalised comment.
The Trial Mountain time is rounded to the second as it’s a composite of attack laps and should be assumed to have a margin of error of about 1 second either way. Don’t sweat the exact rank.
N.B. Both lap times are flying.
FR
I’ll be blunt: with few exceptions nobody went particularly hard on the tune, except one user who went way too far. There’s a prevailing belief that tuning FR cars from Automation is difficult. Perhaps it’s not as easy as the others because the weight distribution is harder to control (most of the cars in this test averaged an FR balance of about 58:52), which means the rear end gets pretty flighty. On the plus side the physics tweaks in Beam seems to have made a significant positive difference to the dynamics. It’s possible to make an extremely fast, controllable FR car. It does however take some well balanced tuning.
JANXOL – 1982 Cyanide Motors 1982 Terrier - S1
The lightest of the FR cars certainly feels that way. On the low end of power, it seeks to make up for this with precise handling and great corner grip. In terms of immediacy of feel and the ability to modulate the car’s behaviour mid corner this is probably the best in class. The brake bias seems a touch rearward compared to weight distribution, so the rear end actually can get flighty under hard braking even if the wheels lock up, but if driven reasonably this is actually not a bad thing as combined with the controllable nature of the car this encourages very late braking even without ABS. Due to the low power and the blockiness of the body it struggles past 130km/h and so I’m anticipating that it will do well on the downhill but really struggle on Automation Track and the hillclimb, but not for a lack of handling.
Cost: 9984
Format: FR
Seats: 2+2
Comfort: 2.9
Fuel Economy: 12.9L/100km
Power: 150.2hp
Weight: 907.8kg
Power:weight ratio: 165.45hp:ton
strop’s Hirochi short time: 1:09.728
strop’s Trial Mountain time: 1:57
stm316 – 1985 G&W Stamford 85
Probably the easiest most mellow FR ride of them all here. Has a very measured response to throttle but the steering is just so on point. A touch of limited slip might have enhanced the drive as I found a certain urge to push the throttle harder because it’s relatively low powered but even that made the inner wheel spin. I found myself frequently saying “if only this were just all around faster”, because the handling was just so nice that the car simply deserved a touch more speed to compete with this field.
Cost: 10480
Format: FR
Seats: 2
Comfort: 15.4
Fuel Economy: 13.2L/100km
Power: 154.8hp
Weight: 1112.5kg
Power:weight ratio: 139.15hp:ton
strop’s Hirochi short time: 1:10.96
strop’s Trial Mountain time: 1:59
NiuYorqCiti – 1989 Ponni Pistero - RS
I give up. I’m really not sure what happened. 223hp:ton isn’t that much but this car somehow makes it seem like a million. I went back and had a look at the configuration and I don’t think it’s any one particular issue so much as a little bit of everything: “civilian” profile tyres, somewhat narrow width for the power to weight ratio, the medium compound, the really low ride height making the springs all compressed from the outset. The front tyres just liked to scrub on corner entry, then when the brakes didn’t lock the wheels the rear started to wander because there was a slight rearward bias. Then applying the throttle even a smidgen too much on exit resulted in unrecoverable oversteer and the whole thing would slide out. I eventually realised the only enjoyable way to drive this car was to overwhelm the rear traction so much that it had almost no effective traction at all i.e. like a drift car. Up to that point it was a twitchy, slidey, spinny mess. So much so that after ten good attempts I figured there was no way in hell I was going to get a meaningful lap done on Trial Mountain, and… realised if I was going to achieve anything beyond a lot of fender benders I’d have to literally halve my throttle inputs. Hence the somewhat shitty time. I went back and decided to tweak everything just to see if I could actually turn it into something that could actually do the performance justice, and might be inclined to share the result if @NiuYorqCiti is happy for me to. Needless to say, when you have enough grip and don’t go silly on the suspension, it’s blisteringly fast.
Cost: 10173
Format: FR
Seats: 2+2
Comfort: 7
Fuel Economy: 10L/100km
Power: 225.9hp
Weight: 995.4kg
Power:weight ratio: 226.94hp:ton
strop’s Hirochi short time: 1:13.287 can I get a big oof
strop’s Trial Mountain time: 1:59
SideswipeBL – 1992 Toreer Sommet 250S
Ride height of 85mm. This would explain the nasty crunching sounds every time I cut a corner LMAO (Edit: actually no it’s not, even when I fixed the tune for some reason this setup really hates bumps and the suspension arms like going straight through the mesh… not sure why. I’m just going to not cut corners). The dampers are also stiff as all get out so that would explain why the handling just feels so taut. It’s ultra direct. On a good surface the car is nearly unflappable but it’s the low power (and the very prematurely truncated powerband and that awful laggy journal-bearing turbo… points for period correctness) that really keeps it in check, though if you try hard enough you can get it unstuck in first and second. In fact with a bit of suspension optimisation my real life comparison would be like a stage one turbo tune of an MX-5 NB. It’s cramped and not that fast but it just feels so naked and immediate.
Cost: 8629
Format: FR
Seats: 2
Comfort: 5.6
Fuel Economy: 10L/100km
Power: 163.8hp
Weight: 1089.2kg
Power:weight ratio: 150.39hp:ton
strop’s Hirochi short time: 1:10.864
strop’s Trial Mountain time: 1:58
racer126 – 1994 Geschenk Gato
This is one of the few times I will comment on the gearing: it’s a lot shorter than most sports cars. Almost every entry here tends to let first reach nearly 60km/h. The short low gearing here means a punchy takeoff but also very long gaps up top which significantly robs it of straight line speed given the higher drag and lower mechanical advantage. Aside from that it also feels much softer, gentler even, though not unpleasantly so. Mid-corner grip is still excellent, rather the response is quite slow, espeically over uneven bumps. That’d be the product of the thin sway bars. You could say therefore that this is not really a car attuned to the track, where the surface tends to be nice and smooth. I wonder how it will fare on a rough road.
Cost: 9928
Format: FR
Seats: 2+3
Comfort: 4
Fuel Economy: 9.5L/100km
Power: 180.5hp
Weight: 1103.7kg
Power:weight ratio: 163.54hp:ton
strop’s Hirochi short time: 1:09.646
strop’s Trial Mountain time: 1:58
Jaimz – 1995 FM Cerberus Track
Just as I said, the insanely low ride height makes for an ultra responsive ride but any bumps really do unsettle the car. And I think I lost a lip. It certainly has some speed to it, and noses in extremely nicely, and thus as far as track times go if you know what you’re doing one can punch above weight in this, but watch out for the terrain.
Cost: 9413
Format: FR
Seats: 2
Comfort: 5.3
Fuel Economy: 10.8L/100km
Power: 171.5hp
Weight: 977kg
Power:weight ratio: 175.54hp:ton
strop’s Hirochi short time: 1:08.976 brisk but not blistering because curbs are not your friend
strop’s Trial Mountain time: 1:55 definitely quicker than average
JohnWaldock – 1995 JHW Lynx S5
It drives real smooth. Too bad it’s on mediums and not sports, as it really deserves sports for the extra grip. As it is the car is well balanced and has a nice rhythm to it as long as you don’t forget you have somewhat limited traction. It’s not the sharpest or the fastest but it certainly lends itself to some nice fun. And if you really want to, sliding the tail around. Of all the FR cars it’s one of the best at steering with the throttle.
That is to say I really liked this. I’m tempted to swap in a close ratio gearbox and some sports tyres.
Cost: 9989
Format: FR
Seats: 2
Comfort: 16.2
Fuel Economy: 8.2L/100km
Power: 186hp
Weight: 976kg
Power:weight ratio: 190.57hp:ton
strop’s Hirochi short time: 1:10.888 there’s potential for much more…
strop’s Trial Mountain time: 1:59
yurimacs – 1997 Bradford Vector R
A great racing driver (in fact more than one) said that steering is done with the throttle. In this front-heavy RWD car the hints of such are there and that’s where the real fun in this car lies. On paper it is an oddity: unnecessarily staggered tyres somewhat lacking in grip with a rally-style turbo tuned i5 but on the track it actually comes together a lot better than suggested. The top end is a bit anaemic, yes, and it is hardly glued to the road, no, but despite still feeling very front heavy, it does carry more immediacy and control than I thought it would. Fortuitously, on this track the brakes (barely) did not overheat, but I suspect one would run into issues on a track with more consecutive hard stops.
Cost: 9894
Format: FR
Seats: 2
Comfort: 0.7
Fuel Economy: 8.7L/100km
Power: 195.2hp
Weight: 1072.6kg
Power:weight ratio: 181.99hp:ton
strop’s Hirochi short time: 1:09.24
strop’s Trial Mountain time: 1:57
Mad_Cat – 1998 Petrov Ferro Coupe
Remember the Top Gear episode where the guys attempted to make a Renaul Avantime drive like not shit? Yeah. I mean they bollocked it up pretty hard but turns out that it’s really hard to make a beige MPV go like a Lancer Evo on even the same money. Now take this Petrov. Actually it’s almost stock, by the looks of it, and barely has had any money put into it even, just the fuel mix cranked up for a bit more go. At least it has some degree of grip to corner like the rest of them… when it wants to, which is to say most of the time, it doesn’t, because the springs were designed to soak up bumps, not accurately transmit the road feedback through the chassis. And of course if you’re driving a civilian car hard it’s not wise to slam the brakes repeatedly on the freeway because they overheat after two or three hard stops, which is exactly what happened here. I don’t know what else anyone would expect.
Cost: 8419
Format: FR
Seats: 4
Comfort: 16
Fuel Economy: 10.6L/100km
Power: 150.7hp
Weight: 1116.5kg
Power:weight ratio: 134.98hp:ton
strop’s Hirochi short time: 1:14.194 I TRIED OKAY
strop’s Trial Mountain time: 2:03 the one and only car that couldn’t break 2 minutes
MAX_POWER – 1998 Kettenblitz 950QD
Very tight. The open diff requires very careful throttle control otherwise all one acheives is spinning the inside wheel and actually losing speed. Recommended technique is to steer this straight and narrow and keep it as clean as possible, because the moment it hits limits it will either run super wide or it will snap out, and while it’s not hard to bundle it back up again, that requires that one wasn’t already being silly to begin with. Maximising performance here more than ever requires some kind of driving perfection, and a lot of sweating. I notice that the rear wheel almost has a tendency to cock hard in the corners, so the rear swaybar is probably a touch too stiff and that probably contributes to the slippy feel.
Cost: 9628
Format: FR
Seats: 2+2
Comfort: 5.7
Fuel Economy: 6.7L/100km
Power: 161.9hp
Weight: 973kg
Power:weight ratio: 166.39hp:ton
strop’s Hirochi short time: 1:10.331
strop’s Trial Mountain time: 1:57
Compared to my reference car:
1995 Matteo Miglia Excelsior Rosso Corsa
This was never designed to be a track car. It was designed to be something fun with naturally aspirated V6 power (sexy times), and not be too expensive. And also seat a reasonable number of people. But it turns out that actually yes you can track it and pretty hard at that. I admit, this is probably due to the sporty profile 235 wide tyres, which is the widest tyres of any of the entries here. They were the kind of tyre used by the FD RX-7, so perhaps I overdid it a little. Packing a good 15-20% more effective traction meant running insane cornering speeds, braking insanely late, and having the liberty of being really aggressive on the throttle and suffering less slip (this base trim has an open diff). So it’s not surprising it goes really quite a lot faster considering its weight, even on the tightest of tracks. But I won’t engage any other false modesty: I also balanced the car’s dynamics really well.
Cost: 10758
Format: FR
Seats: 4
Comfort: 15.5
Fuel Economy: 10.3L/100km
Power: 202.1hp
Weight: 1194.7kg
Power:weight ratio: 169.2hp:ton
strop’s Hirochi short time: 1:07.782 so you can see this is actually pretty damn fast
strop’s Trial Mountain time: 1:53
In a table, then:
P.S. remember what I said about comparing the colours between power, weight, the ratio and the times. I’ll show you the numerical metric measuring this after I finish all the entries.
P.P.S. this is just a note to remind myself that my next intermission will talk about how the small circle test handling graph correlates with the steering feel in Beam, because it actually does mean quite a lot.