[Kee museum] Zavir Legacy thread - FUTURESIGHT: A glimpse of the future

[Hshan]

#Lineup throughout years

(S. V. = Squalo Volante; Vol. = Volante; treat the sport/GT classification loosely)

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#Links to the cars:
(those with numerical designations have only their first variant mentioned here)

###Standard

• 3-series [color=#777777]([/color] 41 [color=#777777]•[/color] 30 [color=#777777]•[/color] 33 [color=#777777]•[/color] 37 [color=#777777])[/color] [color=#777777]>>[/color] Cittadino [color=#777777]([/color] I [color=#777777]•[/color] II [color=#777777]•[/color] III [color=#777777]•[/color] IV [color=#777777]•[/color] V [color=#777777]•[/color] VI [color=#777777])[/color]

• 4/5-series [color=#777777]([/color] Tipo 4 [color=#777777]•[/color] 40 [color=#777777]•[/color] 44 [color=#777777]•[/color] 50 [color=#777777]•[/color] 55 [color=#777777]•[/color] 58 [color=#777777])[/color] [color=#777777]>>[/color] Luna [color=#777777]([/color] I [color=#777777]•[/color] II [color=#777777]•[/color] III [color=#777777]•[/color] IV [color=#777777]•[/color] V [color=#777777]•[/color] VI [color=#777777])[/color]

• 6/7-series [color=#777777]([/color] Tipo 6 [color=#777777]•[/color] 60 [color=#777777]•[/color] 66 [color=#777777]•[/color] 70 [color=#777777]•[/color] 77 [color=#777777])[/color] [color=#777777]>>[/color] Supernova [color=#777777]([/color] I [color=#777777]•[/color] II [color=#777777]•[/color] III [color=#777777]•[/color] IV [color=#777777]•[/color] V [color=#777777]•[/color] VI [color=#777777])[/color]

• 8/9-series [color=#777777]( Tipo 6 & 8 •[/color] 80 [color=#777777]•[/color] 82 [color=#777777]•[/color] 90 & 95 Volante [color=#777777]•[/color] 97 [color=#777777])[/color] [color=#777777]>>[/color] Espada [color=#777777]([/color] I [color=#777777]•[/color] II & Volante [color=#777777]•[/color] III [color=#777777]•[/color] IV [color=#777777]•[/color] V [color=#777777]•[/color] VI [color=#777777])[/color]

• Classic full-size [color=#777777] (smaller) ([/color] Tipo 8 [color=#777777]•[/color] 85 [color=#777777]•[/color] 88 & 89 [color=#777777]) >> 90[/color]
  Classic full-size color=#777777 ([/color] Tipo Super 8 [color=#777777]• ('56-'60 gap) •[/color] 95 [color=#777777]•[/color] 100 (Squalo) [color=#777777]) >>[/color] Squalo [color=#777777]([/color] I [color=#777777]•[/color] II [color=#777777]•[/color] III [color=#777777]•[/color] IV [color=#777777]•[/color] V [color=#777777]•[/color] VI [color=#777777]•[/color] VII [color=#777777])[/color]

###Sports

• Aera [color=#777777]([/color] I [color=#777777]•[/color] II [color=#777777]•[/color] III [color=#777777]•[/color] IV [color=#777777]•[/color] V [color=#777777]•[/color] VI [color=#777777])[/color]

• Classic sports [color=#777777] (mid-range) ([/color] 62 [color=#777777]•[/color] 65 [color=#777777]•[/color] 75 [color=#777777]• 77 Volante ) >>[/color] Nova Volante [color=#777777]([/color] I [color=#777777]•[/color] II [color=#777777]•[/color] III [color=#777777]•[/color] IV [color=#777777]•[/color] V [color=#777777]•[/color] VI [color=#777777])[/color]

• Classic sports color=#777777 ([/color] Tipo S [color=#777777]•[/color] Volante [color=#777777]• ('55-'56 gap) • (65 Ultima) • (75 Ultima) •[/color] Volante II [color=#777777])[/color]
  WTF-generation oddities [color=#777777]( Espada Volante >>[/color] Volante [color=#777777] ('92) >> Sportivolante )[/color]
  WTF-generation oddities [color=#777777]( Z5000 & Volante ('92) >>[/color] Sportivolante [color=#777777]>> Z Volante II )[/color]

• Z-line [color=#777777]( 77 Volante Z >>[/color] Z Volante [color=#777777]•[/color] Z4500 [color=#777777]•[/color] Z5000 [color=#777777]•[/color] ZT [color=#777777]•[/color] Z Ultima & Z Volante II [color=#777777]•[/color] Z Ultima II & Z Volante III [color=#777777])[/color]

###SUV

• SUV [color=#777777] (smaller) ([/color] Avventura [color=#777777]•[/color] Avventura II [color=#777777])[/color]
  SUV [color=#777777] (bigger) ([/color] Tramontana [color=#777777]•[/color] Tramontana II [color=#777777])[/color]

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###Disclaimer
After Unreal update some dates might move a year forward or backward, and there might be one or two new models after 2000 - but all might just stay as it is as well

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Zavir. Il vantaggio della tecnologia.

[Hshan]

#miniFuturesight (double)
Why “mini”? Well, it’s too little text* even for a normal “Futuresight”, but I thought that it’s worth reposting here. And why double? Because it features two cars to compensate for the lack of content - Cittadino III Sportivo and Aera Turbo, both being my CSR entries.

######*(from me - so too little of my own effort put in this)
EDIT: not so “mini” now, with Aera GTR

##Zavir Cittadino III Sportivo
As entered for CSR29.

Sporty car? Of course that Zavir is coming to the party, especially since the new Cittadino just got released in 1996 (luck ). So, here it is, Cittadino III Sportivo, (literally) a ton of naturally aspirated fun!

Few things about this little rocket:

• 1.7 I4 with over 170hp
• under 7s from 0 to 100
• Z-line yellow colour unavailable in standard Zavirs
• based on the smallest Zavir, being also the only Zavir with FWD
• 15 700 $ and it’s yours

And in addition, it’s review by @HighOctaneLove:

At lucky no. 7 on our list is the Zavir Cittadino Sportivo, which probably hails from the same part of the world as the Brivio, the Sportivo is a badass hot hatch which manages to overpower the ultralights without resorting to stripping everything out of the car. This is achieved by using a 130Kw, 1.7L 4 cylinder, to power the beast; which is achieved on 95RON fuel. The sportivo does kinda cheat by installing a crappy stereo but the interior is nice and comfy, rather than bare-bones.

Looks classy, although less exotic than the Brivio, but a bit conservative for our tastes. A new Sportivo will set you back $15,600, which is a good deal on the face of it, but resale might bite due to a lack of dealers around the country.

Verdict: Nice Euro with a real spring in it’s step, worth every penny!

The car was originally posted here and the review is taken from here.

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##Zavir Aera Turbo
In 1987 spec (Aera I was produced in 1984-1990) with Airide™ II.

And the magnificent image and review, both by @Rk38:

@Rk38

Tags show an entry from Zavir, Oh yes Zavir. I’ve heard of them they’ve got a fair bit of racing history and some Italian flair this entry could be good. This container opens to let forth a blue beauty. The Zavir Aera Turbo a coupe that draws influence from several of the other brands we’ve tested.

But here it puts a distinct styling spin of its own. The advert claims this is ‘quite probably the coolest sports car in the known universe.” Now there’s a bold claim! There is no denying it’s a sleek design. Nice hood scoop, spoiler and sleek low tail.

Inside you’ve got two seats. Proper sporty ones too much like the rest of the interior. It’s lightweight and driver focused with only a basic sound system. But there are some luxury features like power steering. Plus ABS but the rest is just standard safety gear.

Under the hood, it packs only a small inline fully alloy four cylinder DOHC turbocharged. This gives it a run to 100 km/h in 5.3 seconds just short of a 911 Turbo but well into good company among the entries. Now in the corners, this thing is amazing only bested by the Matteo Miglia Merlo Turbo. A lovely drivers car so it earns its place to see our client.

The car was originally posted here and you can read the reviews here (first part, Aera is in the second) - which I highly recommend, if you somehow didn’t already

Oh wait! That’s not all, I have a “little” addition from 1985

#Zavir Aera GTR

This little monster is based on Zavir’s new light sports car model, the 1984 Aera. This exact build is roughly the same machine that will compete in the magnificent Group B from this season, replacing the aging Z Volante R2. It is powered by Zavir’s brand new small V6, the S27E in a turbocharged form which delivers it’s tremendous power to all wheels - an innovation introduced to improve performance in the highly demanding Group B rallying.

Some stats:

• over 550hp
• under 1100kg
• under 3.5s to 100km/h

This was originally posted here.

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[DeusExMackia]

Just want to reaffirm how much like the Aera, especially that rear light design. It’s superb.

One question though; both the Aera and the Scarlet competed in CSR37, but you didn’t suggest it as a rival to the Scarlet Mk 1, instead putting the Nova Volante II down. Any reason?

[Hshan]

Thank you

And yes - the Turbo is the most extreme version of Aera (excluding highly limited homologation special for Group B), and it would be a match for the basic Scarlet. Nova Volante II is closer in terms of power range, performance, price, position… Aera is meant to be a basic, light sports car, a competitor for… Nasaro? I’m not sure if this is the car I think of. Or, in the modern times, for the Nardella. Mid-high range sports car is the Nova Volante.

PS And I would enter the Nova Volante for the last CSR, but I was pretty sure it would exceed prod. units and eng. time limits, and in addition it has no turbo variant

[DeusExMackia]

Ooh! Interesting! Yes, it would be the Nasaro. Would love to see it showdown with the Nasaro X

[Hshan]

#Futuresight
…even though it’s quite big and packed with content for a Futuresight, it still lacks some things to be treated as a full-fledged presentation. So, here it is, as seen in '17 Automation Geneva Show.

Here it is… the latest incarnation of the ultimate premium automobile:

#Zavir Espada 2017

The thoroughly refreshed sixth generation of the Espada, here, in Geneva, showing it’s two faces:

The car has been deeply updated not only from the outside, but also from the inside with over 1200 technical modifications* to keep delivering our customers the best possible quality, and thus comfort, performance and safety. The new Espada handles better, rides more comfortably, and is faster, safer and more economical than the current model**. But getting back to the outside…

The front got updated with the latest form of Zavir’s Flowing Light design (with the support of Luceat Studio - thanks @titleguy1), taking styling cues from the recent Zavir Squalo, and technology debuted in the last year Luna - laser headlights, which greatly improve night visibility, thus raising the ride safety.
The side of the Espada got new, sleek handles known from Squalo and Z Volante and a redesigned chrome trim, resembling that from the Squalo, yet still having it’s unique, distinguishable look, including the side trim level badging.

The rear of the car is the most recognisable part of the Espada - probably also making it the most recognisable Zavir model. Although it keeps a high level of similarity with all other Zavir cars utilising the Flowing Light design, it’s taillight shape is completely unique, and made possible thanks to the lights being full LED units.

Effect? While you might find as good looking limousine, we are convinced that the Turismo is the most elegant estate on the market.

And for the end, some example data sheets for the new Espada (the two variants being on display):

• Berlina Sportivo:
  
  

• Turismo 2.7 i-ACI Lusso with optional Hydraspeed VII transmission and 4Forza AWD system:
  
  

The new Espada will be available in the european markets from April, starting from 35 999 € for the base Berlina 2.0 TIDe Stilo, with the same choice of engines as the current model (rounded horsepower figures):

• 1.9 diesel I4 (150)
• 3.2 diesel V6 (250)
• 2.0 petrol I4 (190; TIDe)
• 2.7 petrol V6 (250)
• 3.3 petrol V6 (300)
• 3.8 petrol V6 (350)
• 4.6 petrol V8 (420)
• Sportivo variant - 4.3 V8 (530)

Z Sportivo variant will follow soon. Test drives are available for the automotive press.

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[anon14927014]

I do like the rear end design of the espada. The flat exaust tips just look awesome.

[Hshan]

Just a quick info with a little addition:
I’m going to limit my activity on the forums until at least July to just browsing and publishing what I have already done, more or less - which means some Zavirs (in Futuresight form, as I 1. don’t have many of them designed in technical aspects 2. won’t have enough time for full presentations, but I’d still like to post some designs which I consider to look finished and good (as I also have some old very much “meh” cars); it also means the revival of my long forgotten random desings thread.

So, to start it, here’s the little addition mentioned before:

That’s the front of an unfinished concept of Zavir 88, company’s flagship in '57-'60 (until the 95/96 came along) and then just a premium fullsize until '63, when it got replaced by the 90/91 model. This concept has a 4.8 V8 as the only engine, but if it was to be finished it would probably get sth bigger too. Oh, and it’s an unibody construction, as Zavir ditched the frame construction as soon as they could.

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[Hshan]

#Futuresight
As I announced Today I have some more time, so I could publish both the Unreal cars in the random designs thread and this And “this” means… yet another Squalo. This time the second generation, being the longest produced one.

Both sedan and coupe - Volante - were released in 1982 and while the sedan got replaced in 1990, the Volante lasted two years longer making its lifespan a full decade during which it got two major faceliftings. But the variants presented here are from the first series, using the rectangular style of the late 70s to early 80s Zavirs. Due to being designed after the oil crises of the 70s and “good, but too big” reception of its predecessor in Europe it got smaller, in this generation defining the typical size of the next Squalos with its 3 metre wheelbase and 5.2 metre length. It was also quite innovative in its use of aluminium body panels, which with the smaller size made it more dynamic.

Both variants are powered by the same engine - the good old S42E This time the big V6 comes in a 4.2 litre form with the M-Iniettronica injection. Somewhat full stats:

• 4179 cc V6, full aluminium
• 24 valve DOHC
• multipoint EFI
• 249hp @5600 rom
• 6300 rpm redline

The sedan has a luxury interior (which is a mid-tier option in Squalo), Hydraspeed III transmission (4sp automatic) and the extremely comfortable Hydraglide suspension (hydraulic). The Volante has a premium interior (let’s say that it serves as a lightweight sporty option ;)), 5 speed manual and the innovative Airide suspension (air, obviously). The sedan is the car which the Sand Gold colour comes from, and the Volante is the car which the Midnight Blue colour comes from
No prices or actual stats, as I created these cars quite some time ago as just prototypes, so they aren’t really optimised, so it wouldn’t make much sense.

Zavir. Il vantaggio della tecnologia.

[squidhead]

Well… this front end situation is awkward

[Hshan]

Oops

Second “oops” - I forgot to change the title.

[abg7]

With the UE4 version now in open beta, I am expecting you to remake as many of your historic and current models as you can… especially the 2nd gen Squalo, 6th gen Espada, and Aera Turbo. Those are some of the best-looking cars you have ever made!

[Hshan]

#Futuresight
Again a repost from a show (like with the Espada), just to group all Zavirs in this thread. So what do I have this time? Yet another Squalo - but it’s the last one (before I start making all Zavir cars in Unreal), I promise As seen in '17 Automation Destroit Auto Show…

##Zavir Squalo VII and Zavir Squalo Volante VII, the brand new level of luxury

The new generation Squalo is the first car not from the Z-line to use carbon fiber in its construction - the use of carbon fiber monocoque with aluminium panels allowed to not only reduce weight of this 5.2 limousine and coupe, but in the same time to increase safety to unprecedented levels. Like its predecessor the new Squalo will be available with RWD or AWD 4Forza drivetrains, Hydraspeed VII or Seletronica II transmissions and engines ranging from 2.7 TIDe V6 to 6.3 i-ACI V12 in the Sportivo trim. It will be available at Zavir dealers worldwide from March this year.

Some additional informations - since the original presentation of this car there were some changes in the planned engine lineup, so it won’t have a 5.5 and 6.3 V12s, but rather two variants of a 5.7 one (but the performance stays the same). Also there won’t be any TIDe engines in this model, so the engine lineup will look more or less like this (all petrol engines are N/A):

• 3.x turbodiesel V6, ~250hp, Europe only, Berlina only
• 2.7 petrol V6, ~250hp, Europe and Asia only, Berlina only
• 3.6 petrol V6, ~310hp
• 4.6 petrol V8, ~380hp
• 5.7 petrol V12, ~470hp, V12 and Ultima variants only
• 5.7 petrol V12, ~750hp, Sportivo variant only

Also the Squalo Volante will look a bit different than the Berlina variant (sedan)(it won’t be as similar as it is now). The Squalo will be available in the following trims:

• Veloce - premium interior
• Lusso/V12 - luxury interior, designation depending on the engine
• Ultima - hand made interior, V12 only, Hydraspeed + 4Forza drivetrain (hydraulic automatic and AWD) only, all options included
• Sportivo - sportier setup and look, ~750hp engine, premium/luxury interior (the second being an option)

And for the end…

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kQHLaIhX3kM/WTL3iZmftKI/AAAAAAAADQc/c5mzRZvvYRsZ3bgdUwu5hgOOJwDXEXfxQCL0B/h1200/3.png

Photoshop by @ramthecowy

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[Hshan]

Zavir Saetta Concept

… or, in other words, my quite poor attempts at designing a modern Zavir without mods, in UE4. And having some fun with the photo mode.

I didn’t really have an idea for the rear, especially without diffusers or grill-creases.

Ok, so what it is, apart from a design exercise/experiment? A quite typical high end sports car. Engine under a long bonnet powering the rear wheels, 50/50 weight distribution, DCT, fancy suspension, all aluminium body. Yet it’s quite heavy at ~1650 kg, but I believe that’s a problem with many cars in UE4.
The engine is a 3.6 naturally aspirated V6, producing 412 hp @ 8600 rpm. It propels the car to 100 km/h in 3.9 s while consuming less than 10 l/100km.
The interior is a sporty 2+2 with premium audio and all the safety you could want from a modern car.

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If someone knows how to make colours work again please tell me. These changes on Discourse are still a PITA for me.

[abg7]

This looks like a good start to UE4 for you considering the absence of mods on your end. I have to applaud the audacity of using a normally aspirated V6 in a sports car like this. So how much does the Saetta cost without markups, and how big will the profit margin be? I’d like to find out

But what issues exactly do you have with the colour selection?

Edit: you meant typing colored text in your posts. And I fully agree with you that $52500 with a 50% markup (which equates to 35k without markups) is an appropriate price for the Saetta.

[DeusExMackia]

Review: 2017 Zavir Squalo VII Ultima

“It’s an Italian luxury saloon. Of course it’s going to be incredible.”

There are just some cars that do not need any justification. No justification for being the price that they are, or how fast they are or how good looking they are. It’s a universal constant found across all prices ranges and car types. But if there’s one car that has always been above the rest, it’s the Zavir Squalo. Since the mid-70s, it has been a standard for ultimate luxury. No ifs, no buts; its always had more class than anything from Britain and more style than anything from Germany.

Which of course means this review pretty much speaks for itself; the 7th generation Squalo is a masterpiece. Its styling is effortless, welcoming and endearing, with the rear in particular being truly sublime. It’s fantastic range of engines are powerful, well made and sound goregous. In particular, the 6.0l V12 on this Ultima trim is sonorous.

The interior is best experience in the rear. This particular model has rear reclining massage seats, a panoramic sun roof, in-car internet streaming and whole lot more. The options list is like the shopping catalogue for the John Lewis tech department. If you want it, it’s here.

It drives like eating greek yoghurt with a drizzling of honey and nuts whilst looking out over the vista of a secluded bay somewhere on Mykonos. The 9 speed automatic that comes as standard is just about as perfect an auto-shifter I’ve ever come across, and I certainly wouldn’t expect any less.

There are some downsides to the awe-inspiring comfort and ease of driving this thing provides. For one, it is absolutely huge, hence meaning you will need a small dockyard to park it. Plus, the active suspension is very soft indeed, so don’t drive it too hard or else it becomes a bit of a king-sized four-poster on wheels. Plus, it is very costly; at £250k for the top of the range model, you will need to remortgage both your main house and your second property to afford it.

Then again though, its worth it. I had the pleasure of slinking around the west end of London and blitzing it on the motorway, and I was suitably amazed. But this car really deserves to be driven big. I’m talking a north-to-south road trip of Scandinavia, or the cruise along the French Rivera. You see, when you’re sitting inside the Squalo, with the engine purring away nicely, some down-tempo RnB on the sound system and the air-con set just right, you’re in that magical luxury bubble that you experience with the real cream of the crop of luxury cars.

Luxury motoring is about comfort and scale. The Squalo has it in spades. It wants you to drive it across Europe and back again, just so you have enough time to use all the features and experience all the car has to offer. Sitting in this thing makes you feel priveleged without any desire to be arrogant. It’s pertinence without the upper-class toffness.

Not that you won’t look like a millionaire driving this thing, and everyone will think you’re a bit of a show off not matter where you park it. But then again, that’s the point, isn’t it?

- Gavin Anderson

Cheers to @szafirowy01 for lending me the car!

[abg7]

Quite right. The Squalo Ultima is one of the best luxury flagships I’ve seen in the whole Automationverse. If you want to shut out the world en route to your destination, this is one of the best cars in which to do it.

And the Luna, despite all the limitations of the Kee engine, also looks better than ever!

[DeusExMackia]

Very pretty car indeed!

[Hshan]

Futuresight

Zavir is a half American company, yet we never made a real muscle car. Or… have we? What is the definition of a muscle car? American made 4 seat coupe with a powerful V8 and rear wheel drive? Many various Zavirs throughout the years fit this vision, but is that all that defines a muscle car? Most of these cars weren’t named such - they were big and luxurious GTs rather, good for long distance cruising, not daily commute with a quarter mile run now or then. Others were more supercars, with their ahead of the time performance and extreme costs. So is it entirely true? Zavir made no muscle car ever?

A muscle car should be dailiable. Practical, easy to drive, and economical? Quite uncommon, but definitely won’t hurt. Powerful, aggresive looking and just incredibly fast? Sure. Rear wheel driven and powered by a naturally aspirated V8? That’s a classical formula, and a good formula. And if we define a muscle car like that it turns out that Zavir makes such car now - and here is it’s latest iteration, the 2018 Nova Volante Z Sportivo.

With our full-alloy mid size platform housing 4 full seats and sedan-sized boot it definitely is practical. Tests shown that it’s about as easy to drive as our compact Luna and getting 30 MPG also economical. All this despite having 533 horsepower.

It’s 4.5 V8 revs up to 9200 rpm and with the help of our 7 speed Seletronica III DCT and an electronic diff catapults the car to 60 MPH in just 3.7 seconds and continues to speed up until hitting 181 MPH, by the way passing the quarter mile mark after 11.7 seconds. But you’ll be wrong if you think that it’s good for just straight line performance - in the end it’s not only Zavir’s vision of a muscle car, it also has a soul of an European sports car. Due to its aluminium construction, carbon fiber roof and magnesium rims it’s pretty lightweight at 3662 pounds. That with the reActive suspension and the aerodynamics employing the most advanced active diffuser allows it to corner like a race car. Slowing down before the corners is handled by carbon ceramic brakes in all four corners. The effect is a flying lap on Laguna Seca completed in 3:21.4.

The car, along with all other trims and both Spider and Fastback bodies will be available by the beginning of the year in Zavir dealerships all around the world; this trim costs 66 900 $ before taxes.

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[Hshan]

A glimpse of the future

Not only I’m alive, as you may have noticed, but I’m also back.

This thread however, isn’t and is not going to be, as you can probably tell by the title. It will remain here untouched though and Zavir will continue, but in a new thread soon to come. Or rather, Zavir will reboot, as everything contained here is no longer canon except for the general idea and some models. They will look different, have different engines, different history. The names will be familiar, the timeline will be completely remade.