I would caution against including supercar-grade stuff by virtue of the brief (the sports-grade stuff is already close to supercar-priced in story, and our young couple would be ill served by such pricing)
And I think there should be a hard no on simulated diesels in a QFC. We already have Road Kings as a current diesel-permitting challenge.
Hey who wants to design my car which i’ve engineered 
Regarding techpool and price, I would loosely suggest the default if you wanna keep it simple.
As far as price is concerned, however, remember: Sandbox’s prices are based on mass production. When calculating approximate price in sandbox, Automation assumes that costs like tooling and engineering are spread across large numbers of vehicles. The more you move towards premium and luxury, the more abnormally low Automation’s prices are. 58k in Automation buys a whole lot more than 58k does IRL (accounting for inflation to 2012 dollars).
In my opinion…
Diesels in a QFC isn’t a terrible idea, but I find it hard to mesh with the brief. If we were back a few when the goal was a good truck? I would spring on it. But a sport-premium wagon? Maybe it’s the America in me, but I just don’t get it.
QFC is all about default TP. A lower price might keep things more on edge - or keeping it as-is might make for an interesting mix of entries either at the limit but pushing everything they can, or being cheaper but offering less in some department/s.
Interiors ought to be a tangential thing - i.e. lacking one won’t lose points or anything like that.
That’s all I’ve really got to say, hope it helps some!
My 2 cents: I understand QFC as being about a simple straightforward brief (including but not limited to default or at least fixed TP) and priorities / judging criteria (including interiors not being part of the scoring effort), allowing a low barrier for entry and a quick judging process (in 140 characters or less per car, as the original idea was).
Not saying that the dual set of criteria need to go - that can be a nice twist for this QFC… but IMO this should be the only twist beyond the basic QFC idea.
How can it both be looking for diesels AND a V16 supercar? There is also literally one real car ever made that would fit that potential brief. This needs to be pared down imo. None of the cars in the inspiration list even come close to what you are suggesting we build, and frankly what you are asking for existed only at the price point that Arabic princes were custom ordering them. A pair of Singaporeans in the 90s simply would not be able to afford a Ferrari 456GT, especially as their second car after a 300ZX.
I accept the argument that QFC needs to be kept simple, and fake diesels aren’t. Furthermore, while there is a niche where they work (E400 CDI wagon, for example), they’re too far removed from the brief. No diesels.
As for expected price/performance level, we need Alex’ input. We both agreed on “high end” at first, and I’m not sure how far we’ve shifted from that. I had in mind Alpina Biturbo and Brabus-level things, not quite blank-check-from-the-sultan like that Ferrari, but with E55 AMG and RS4 in the middle or even back of this pack. V16 would be a minor stretch.
I believe that Brabus is also a blank check from a sultan scenario, as it appears only two were built on special order and one of the special customers was Michael Schumacher. God only knows how expensive that was.
If you want these things to be in the back of the pack, better remove the 3 Series and all the Japanese examples from the inspirations, and maybe rewrite the backstory accordingly.
A specialty sultan wagon isn’t necessarily a bad brief even, it’s unique and interesting. But it isn’t this brief.
I was excited to see some Japanese-esque sports wagons at first… not really sure what this challenge is ngl
We’re waiting to hear from @GAlexZilla at this point. The expected performance and price levels are their call, not mine.
As for expected price/performance level, we need Alex’ input. We both agreed on “high end” at first, and I’m not sure how far we’ve shifted from that. I had in mind Alpina Biturbo and Brabus-level things, not quite blank-check-from-the-sultan like that Ferrari, but with E55 AMG and RS4 in the middle or even back of this pack. V16 would be a minor stretch.
I know that QFC isn’t for realism and is meant to be simplified a bit, but… the inspirations list (sporty wagon), budget (supercar/limited edition superwagons), and lore (from a 300ZX, singapore, engine size & cylinder tax?, young couple?) don’t really make sense if a "V16 is a minor stretch and you’re asking for a couple of V12s and a V16 in the running…
I believe that, lore-wise, the couple would probably like a turbo inline-4, a simple inline-6, or maybe at the very extreme at most, a V8.
did you guys not communicate 
So sending the cars to moroza is just a precaution for the V16 DLC that I do not have and did not ban. We plan on reviewing each entrant together (so yes I will also review them).
Yes the price will be lowered.
As of writing this the considered price change is to 37,000/41,000. Leaning on the lower end of that, though I’m slightly concerned I’m unintentionally cutting off the premium options with it.
For clarification the mules I built went all out and came about the 70-75,000 range. From there I thought decreasing the price to 58-55,000 should cut some options off the table and give people choices. Clearly now, that was not the best way to go and I have much to learn on setting prices.
The E55 was meant to be the peak of what was achievable with the pricing, its quite more powerful than the 270-290hp avg of the bunch and no less comfortable maybe even more comfortable than some of the other inspirations. Hoping it would be balanced by the high general cost to own.(fuel eco, svc, reliability, and outright price)
Techpool.
From what I can gather, techpool is recommended default, or at most fixed to keep the simplicity. I can’t say I know what or how to decide on a full custom techpool, so as of now it will be changed to default +5 on everything EXCEPT body being +7 for more variety and body choices without being far too futuristic.
Diesels.
I agree on capping off more complexity and twists from this challenge, especially being QFC, therefore diesels will not be included.
V16s.
That’s a good point, V12s aren’t too realistic in this scenario let alone a V16. That somehow flew past my head. I just didn’t see the need to close those options outright given its risks. Thought a madlad could but that wouldn’t go far I reckon. Anyways, if y’all want that option to be fully removed, I am very well open to it. (in that case submissions could go back to me, and serve as more valuable learning experience)
Brief
I feel I could have written the brief’s line of thought better, seeing the confusion. Basically; “Need bigger car” “SUV!” “Can’t afford 2 cars. Still want sports!” “sedan?” “Bigger than sedan!” “…ESTATE!” “ESTATE!”
I do have one quick question: is the a minimum/maximum wheelbase rule?
Thanks for reminding! That’s a good one. How does 3.0m sound? Rounding based off the automation numbers. Basically whatever you see 3.0 in the body selection
I’m very happy with those changes. This is looking to be a good round
A minimum wheelbase of ~2.6m or so would also be reasonable.
Done and done
