2002 Wells Falcon Carbon Edition
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LAST CALL
The Wednesday: August 20, 11:59 PM CDT deadline is 24 hours away.
As per the original rules: All who submitted may resubmit until satisfied. Just please, do it in the same thread and make it broadly the same car.
So far, complete submissions from:
@Happyhungryhippo
@bang6111
@Ch_Flash & @moroza
@abg7
@the-chowi
@xsneakyxsimx
@AKA_NOBUDDY
@Dog959
@Knugcab & @Ritz
@Danicoptero
@Xepy
@vero94773
@DuceTheTruth100
And an ad but no .car from
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2002 Shinsoku Akatsuki
For the 2002 model year Shinsoku motors presents the next generation of sports car.
A naturally aspirated 1.7l four cylinder is mounted in the front with close ratio five speed gearbox and LSD to control the power.
All round double wishbone independent suspension and a modern high tensile steel and aluminium construction make the Akatsuki safe and lightweight
Akatsuki has a semi-automatic roof system, the centre section can be removed and stowed in the trunk to make an open targa style car, and then with a press of a button the rear section can be folded away to make a complete open top roadster
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high iq reading section
Produced when Quezon had just restructured out of its second bankruptcy and recievership, the SR-2 looked like a reflection of the companyâs founding days, being a light-weight bare-bones roadster built from existing parts, with sporty driving distilled down to an essential form.
Development was headed by Engineer Jerome âBoss Jerjerâ Osmeña III, the former director of the late Quezon Racing Formula One team, and designer of the QF701 through QF841T Formula One cars. Boss Jerjerâs main goal with the SR-2âs development was a product of the companyâs current financial situation, which was to keep costs as minimized as possible wherever, whilst still keeping the car good-looking, and pleasant to drive.
The chassis was a monocoque frame that consisted of a steel front and rear sub frame derived from the Quezon Cordova compact and the Quezon Laguna midsize to minimize cost, while the central âtubâ was made from bonded aluminum panels and girders to reduce mass.
For the front suspension, the double wishbones of the J2A-3 platform Cordova were carried over, with the SR-2 sharing roughly 60% of parts which included the upper and lower control arms, steering knuckles, tie rod ends, and the spindle. The rear on the other hand, was a multi-link design from the J2B-3 Laguna that shared 90% of existing parts.
The central aluminum tub consisted of recycled architectural grade 6063 extruded aluminum panels and members glued together with a high-strength hard-curing single-part epoxy. This was connected to the front and rear subframes through thin ladder-like steel girders that went along the length of the car.
While the chassis was manufactured in-house by Quezon at their factory in Quezon City, atop the SR-2âs frame rested a fiberglass body from JM Malapat Inc, a Subic-based maker of fiberglass boats. The body is separated into five main parts; the front clamshell hood, the doors, the bottom bracket, the rear clamshell, and the trunk. The manufacturing process was unique for a car, and utilized many techniques pioneered in fiberglass boat-building, such as free-forming. To minimize weight further, the body was only given single stage paint options, with the exception of Racing Metallic Silver.
Mounted in the front is a 1098cc inline-four from the Yamada RX1100XX Raptor superbike, with a redline of 11,000 RPM, the engine made over 160 horsepower and was mated to a 6-speed manual transmission derived from the Raptor that sent power to the front wheels. The engine is mounted transversely behind the front wheels, giving the car a front-mid-engined, front-wheel-drive layout, and a sweepingly low front end.
The decision to choose a small Yamada superbike engine over a cheaper, larger displacement Quezon I4 was largely driven by the desire to lose as much weight as possible. The smallest inline four that the company produced at that time was a 1997cc as used in the Cordova, which would have added an additional 50 kilograms to the vehicleâs weight, and would have shifted the mass too far forwards, hampering handling. Further weight savings included having the exhaust exit right ahead of the passenger door on the right side of the vehicle.
Driver assists were also nonexistent. There was no power steering, no anti-lock brakes, traction control, or stability control, as Boss Jerjer wished to keep the car true to its roots, as a simple, barebones roadster that emphasized sports driving enjoyment over everything else.
While a controversial choice, considering the original Quezon SR and Supercab were front engine, rear-wheel-drive roadsters, the decision to make the SR-2 FF was chosen as it would have been both lighter than an equivalent rear-wheel-drive roadster, and cheaper to manufacture. To counteract the inherent understeer of the FF layout, the 200TW Advan tires were staggered front to rear, with 225 section in the back, and 235 in the front, and the suspension was tuned to allow the car to rotate more easily like that of an FR car.
The retractable soft top is made of trapal or tarpaulin in English, a waterproof canvas material. It is commonly used in the Philippines for owner-type jeeps due to its cheap cost and easy availability. In the SR-2âs case, it is not only cheap, but incredibly lightweight too, allowing the center of mass to be shifted lower. Despite being a rather flimsy material, the SR-2âs is rated for speeds of up to 120 kph with the top up. It is also completely removable with only a few bolts needed to unhook the topâs frame. While possible, it is not recommended to exceed 120kph with the top up, nor to drive the SR-2 in heavy rain.
As the retractable soft top was not exactly designed for spirited driving in mind, Boss Jerjer prioritized the driving experience with the top down. He sent his engineers to spend a week at a wind tunnel in the United States testing various smaller scale prototypes to ensure that the wind would not enter the cabin too much and drown out the sound of the high-strung motorcycle engine. This resulted in additional vortex generators being attached to the carâs mirrors, front clamshell, and windscreen to prevent buffeting from occurring during spirited driving.
Additional weight and cost savings were found in the interior. The surfaces were lined with lightweight fabric, and initially had no provisions for any form of in-car entertainment. To minimize costs, the majority of interior parts were off-the-shelf, aftermarket parts such as the Recaro SR5 seats, Takata 4-point street harnesses, and Momo steering wheel. The gauge cluster was also directly taken from the Yamada Raptor superbike. To cut costs and weight further, the windows are hand-cranked, and the door release mechanism was a simple wire integrated into the doorcard. 18x8 sized RAYS Engineering Volk Racing TE37 wheels, the lightest wheels easily available on the market, were chosen to save money on development and minimize unsprung mass.
An optional in-car entertainment system was added a month after the SR-2âs release in the form of an off-the-shelf CD Sony Boombox mounted in a box bolted to the passenger footwell, which added about 6 kilograms to the overall weight.
The overall result was a driver-oriented, hard-core driving machine that weighed in under 700 kilograms dry, allowing a power-to-weight ratio of 230 horsepower per tonne. A 0-60 time of 5.1 seconds was possible with a skilled enough driver, and a top speed of over 225 kph was easily attainable.
The car debuted at the 2001 Geneva International Motor Show, producing a bit of buzz considering the financial state of the company at that time, recently undergoing a restructuring after the company suffered year after year losses from 1995 to 1999, before entering recievership and rehabilitation in 2000.
Like the SR before it, the SR-2 was planned to be a limited run release, and just 500 were initially going to be produced with sales beginning in March 2002.
| Specification (s1) | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Displacement | 1098cc | Engine Type | Inline-4, Aluminum Block & Head |
| Max. Power | 162 PS / 10,000 RPM | Valvetrain | Dual Overhead Camshaft, 16 Valve |
| Max. Torque | 133 N*m / 7,600 RPM | Bottom End | Forged Aluminum Crank |
| Redline | 11,000 RPM | Suspension (F/R) | Double Wishbone / Multi-link |
| Drivetrain/Aspiration | FF / NA | Wheelbase | 2,260 mm |
| Transmission | 6-speed Transaxle | Length | 4,020 mm |
| Tire Size (F/R) | 235/30R18 225/35R18 | Width | 1,700 mm |
| Wheel Size (F/R) | 18x8 | Height | 1,120 mm |
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2002 RĂ©gal ZLK 3.0 Si - Octane
First released in '98, the ZLK is a small luxury hardtop roadster. The Si trim includes a brand new SatNav system, and newly updated safety features. It also included the renowned retractable hard-top system it is known for.
The Octane package however bring out the sport! 17 inches forged magnesium rims, body colors skirts and accents, the new Z-mode active suspension system, a full lightweight sport interior with bucket seats, a 6-speed manual transmission, track focuse tires and an Octane tuned 3.0L inline six that have 250hp and 250 lb-ft of torque.
The whole packages gets the car up to 300 km/h with a 0-100 acceleration in under 5 seconds. It also quite grippy for such a luxurious package, despite being quite heavy at 1355kg.
Come tame one today at your RĂ©gal dealership!
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Can you hear the music?
The Hoffsman Alsophis Z is a direct line to the road. Mere thoughts become action, unfettered by new-age nannies, with you as the maestro of a mechanical orchestra.
Behind your head, a quarter chorus sings to 8000 RPM, upping the tempo from standstill to 100 km/h in 4.4 seconds. Wave your six-speed baton effortlessly while taking turns precisely as desired, courtesy of refined instruments like a torque-sensing differential, sticky tires, and a rear wing.
And if it ever sounds too muffled, drop the targa top to shed even more weight from 750 kg. Only the fundamentals belong in a driving experience this exhilarating.
Ready to find your Ode to Joy? See us for a test drive.
You may just forget it even has a radio.
The Hoffsman Alsophis Z.
Made in collaboration with @Kanye_West
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love the journey
2000 cc inline-4 with variable technologies
210 horsepower
160 lb-ft
5.0s 0-60
automatic folding convertible top
deluxe CD changer sound system
semi-automatic computer-control technology
a daring new look inspired by classic roadsters and previous Hokudo sporting machines
still with an unbroken reputation for reliability
$38,800 MSRP
one trim. additional options available.
© 2002 HOKUDO
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SUBMISSIONS CLOSED
The competition is now closed.
The final tally, which is 19 entries deep, is as follows:
@Happyhungryhippo
@bang6111
@Ch_Flash & @moroza
@abg7
@the-chowi
@xsneakyxsimx
@AKA_NOBUDDY
@Dog959
@Knugcab & @Ritz
@Danicoptero
@Xepy
@vero94773
@DuceTheTruth100
@variationofvariables & @yurimacs
@Riley
@mart1n2005
@karhgath
@chiefzach2018 & @Kanye_West
@supersaturn77
Please tell me if Iâve missed you by accident.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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BIN ROUND
There were actually no instabins this round. As such, the following are cars that had serious holes in their engineering or âzeroed outâ multiple priority categories. For those transgressions, weâre going to let the tides take them.
Recommended Round Soundtrack: Down - The Tides
An attempt at a stereotypical track beast, the Carrier RX combines a massive 275hp horsepower rating with both a sub-1 ton weight figure and extremely thin (155mm) 200mph-capable tires. The turbo is laggy, the service costs are unacceptable and drivability is predictably subpar.
BINNED FOR WACKY ENGINEERING AND UNACCEPTABLE RUNNING COSTS AND DRIVABILITY
This flame-spitting, 11,000 rpm-spinning, 1500-lbs weighing FWD roadster is street legal. Why? God knows, because only a remarkable sadist with a deathwish would drive it off track. That said, itâs likely a very smart investment just based off how left-field it is.
XB: I actually absolutely love this thing. Nevermind that itâs simply pretty - we are talking about an FWD car that beats most RWD cars in the competition on sportiness and performance, and itâs got frickinâ side pipes stuck to its front. And a clamshell hood! Itâs all manners of avant-garde and awesome and I canât hate it, but itâs also perhaps the most glaring example of both a brief miss and a realism bin candidate. Put this into a Danicoptero brief, thoughâŠ
BINNED FOR WACKY ENGINEERING AND UNACCEPTABLE PRESTIGE, COMFORT, SAFETY, AND DRIVABILITY
The Yamaguchi might not be a looker, but it has a good variable-valve engine and does overall have potential to be a strong sporty cabriolet. Too bad the so-called âType Râ comes with numb electric steering, unsporty tires and a heavy all-steel body. Devilâs in the deatils.
XB: Aside from the âpacifyingâ decisions that made this car the worst-handling in the competition, it also wastes several thousand autobucks on an ALUMINUM BILLET engine block. Those are for nitro dragsters!
BINNED FOR UNACCEPTABLE SPORTINESS AND PERFORMANCE
With great handling and grip and rock-hard springs, the Akatsuki shouldnât be facing a deficit of sporty feel - even as an FWD car. However, if the viability of that drive type rests on your shoulders, trailing all other sports cars in speed and power doesnât help your case.
BINNED FOR UNACCEPTABLE SPORTINESS AND PERFORMANCE
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Damn, that was quick. I wish I couldâve finished my entry but life gets in the way. Welp
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Ah crap! Yes, I have fixed the billet nonsense on openbeta but that goof remained on my Ellisbury database. Yep, I totally forgot
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I think he was referring to regular electric steering (which boosts fuel consumption and reliability compared to any hydraulic system, but tanks sportiness - variable electric steering isnât available until 2010, assuming a driving aids techpool allocation of 0 points), medium or hard tires (where sports or even semi-slick tires wouldâve been preferrable), and the use of regular or treated steel bodywork (where partial or full aluminum panels couldâve saved a decent amount of weight).
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Iâm confused, the rules didnât really have any mention on a limit to service costs (which for a 30k car having 1800 SVC is expected imo.) and as a priority it was a 1 star same with drivability. And as you said this is an attempt at a track car not a daily driver, so sub-par drivability (of 55-60 score, forgot the exact number) doesnât really scream unrealisticâŠ
But why bin, when itâs technically within the rulesets? Iâd understand if you gave me a low score because it wasnât what you wanted but binning cars for stuff not on the rules kinda doesnât make sense to me.
Not trying to speak on behalf of the host here, but you werenât binned for breaking any rules. You actually did just get a low score for not having what they wanted.
1800 SVC is absurdly high for a 30k car; those are the costs youâd expect out of a high-end Alfa Romeo or a Maserati. And the rules were pretty clear that a track car wasnât the target here, anyway.
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Oh, well, the wording mightâve thrown me off a bit.
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As stated on the top of that post, stuff with questionably engineering or stuff with 2 or more priorities âzeroed outâ got the boot. In your case, the priorities were both 1-stars and I did consider âletting it goâ to be low-score-eliminated in the next round, but there was also the matter of the car having engineering cohesion shortcomings⊠If you want I can go over the detailed reasoning here or on Discord later.
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Itâs all good, just not used to this style of judging, was just mainly confused on how it worked
With the amount of power youâre packing, a 205mm front/225mm rear tire combo (which is closer to what some trims of the real-life Exige S2 came with), wouldâve been more preferable. And they donât even need to be Y-rated (which explains their 200-mph capability).
ROUND 1
This round is split by price point, and Iâm picking two of the best for each. These cars already all basically deserve finalist status by their price-adjusted scores, but I also just want the finals to be sufficiently balanced. The first category up is the low-costers, $26,000 and below. This is a smaller category for this round, not least because I binned 2 of them already.
Recommended Section Soundtrack: Pantera - Death Rattle
Breakout!
@Dog959 - ESP Flatout 1700
The Flatout is a solid value proposition on the low end of the price scale, and on balance it has all the necessary tools to succeed. It has amazing real-life usability and is lean without being underpowered. In the end, though, its inability to excel in anything else sinks it.
XB: This car is a really good effort, especially compared with previous entries from this competitor. It still has serious rough edges (like having front-engine proportions and being very much rear engine, and those KragersâŠ) but it doesnât look bad. And on the engineering front, again - perhaps itâs not optimal, but the package scores really well against the rest of the field and loses to just one car in its price range, while beating out more established players. In fact, I would state itsâ only a couple cars away from being a proper finalist.
The lightest car to actually tick all the market requirement boxes, the Alsophisâ secret is in not going overboard on suspension harshness and just building something simple. The result is an avant-garde, sub-800kg MR targa with ballistic cornering performance.
Moves to Finals as a Low-Price
Intensely competent and a joy to drive, this quasi-track car sports a straight-five - but not a very big, modern or advanced one. As such, all that competence does not quite translate into a class-leading performance or livability envelope, though it does come close.
The Solare looks very, very mean. It sells for very, very cheap. It goes fast, and is practical and livable for a mid-engined joy roadster - at least relatively. Its big tires and complex engine do mean itâs not dirt cheap to run, but itâs still a class-leading bargain..
Moves to Finals as a Low-Price
The middle of the road - $26,000 to $33,000 - was predictably crowded. This does mean that more cars get thrown over the top rope - but it does mean that the one that make it are very strong candidates for Top Roadster indeed.
Recommended Section Soundtrack: Rob Zombie - Demon Speeding
The Wells Falcon is not a perfect car, between the tucked wheels, cement suspension and exaggerated tire stagger - but it still showed real potential. However, the engine is overbalanced by some 60 lbs - rendering void all of the ITBsâ and forged internalsâ hard work. A shame.
The Friesurin has a great hidden droptop and is the easiest roadster of all to drive. That would justify it above-average purchase price - were it not for the unbelievably dull exterior and typical early-00s-Teutonic reliability and running costs. Thatâs no laughing matter.
XB: This picks up reliability dings from all the weirdest places. The conrods donât like sitting at redline, the body has no quality at all thrown onto it, and itâs got an active suspension. And unlike the Corvus, this car isnât pretty enough to compensate for the lack of reliablity.
The Fenja follows its model lineâs trend of looking rear-engined when it is not, but itâs still a very well-made car, and one of the best bang-for-buck propositions here in terms of engineering. Comfort, drivability, sportiness, reliability - itâs got it all.
Moves to Finals as a Mid-Price
The Tarske sports car is incredibly well sorted and equipped with its automatic top, torquey five-valver and great safety equipment. Its only real problem is that the Fulgur Fenja eats its lunch in a direct confrontation while costing less.
This well-tuned coupe combines a very sporty chassis with good, comfortable ride, as well as excellent performance - and is extremely dependable. Weaknesses are few and far between, and this would be a class-leading vehicle - if it had only looked a little better.
The Tristella is uniquely substantial and luxurious for an MR car in this space - and also signularly pretty. Its performance is great, it drives like a dream, itâs as dependable as⊠the Italian car that it is⊠But none of that matters when youâre looking at it.
Moves to Finals as a Mid-Price
Finally, the $33,000 and above bracket offers a healthy variety of entries, most trending towards lots of prestige and more powerful engines - though not without exception. The winners of this category, to be clear, are the two flat out best cars here going by unadjusted scoring - so their fight with the smaller guys will be tight.
Recommended Section Soundtrack: Heaven & Hell - Follow the Tears
To call the Crowley Lavinia a deadly weapon would be an understatement. It gleefully crushes every single other roadster on sale from a dynamics standpoint - as it should, with 367 bhp/tonne. Sadly, that performance is the only exceptional thing you get for your 40 grand.
XB: This TVR-core fucking thing was one of my favorites personally, and I was very glad that the overall performance crown remained with it. However, the sportiness stat actually remained a fair amount under cars that are less powerful - Automationâs BS grip penalty showing its face - and, as with another car, spending so much cash on weight rebalancing was likely unwise to do.
What goes into a true roadster tour de force? Inline six, active suspension, automatic roof, full aerodynamic kit⊠Across the board, and for not much more than an Amida, this delivers every technological requirement of the roadster class. Question is: Does it look the part?
Moves to Finals as a Hi-Price
Many of the cars here have brought their party tricks - this carâs are roll-down doors. And an automatic hardtop. In a sub-ton package. For under 34 grand. Lunacy! Problem is, in substance itâs just a lighter, weaker, more expensive Tristella Corvus - which is not bad, mindâŠ
While thereâs little wrong with the Hokudo JR20 - itâs a perfectly ok premium sports car - thereâs also not much right. Itâs a 4-banger, 5-speed car at 6-banger, 6-speed cost, with dwarfy 15-inch wheels and a desperate-feeling effort to shift weight rearward. Id est, not enough.
XB: This car is a great example of too much money spent on minutiae. While a 50/50 weight distribution is nice, itâs not âwaste shitloads of price on it to bring it all the way rearâ nice; and likewise, quality is nice, but thereâs a lot of it here. Itâs literally the only non-6-cylinder in this category, and thereâs nowhere to run from there.
Thereâs presence, and then thereâs being 1000 lbs heavier than everybody else. That being said, the Voltari car wears its weight well, managing to develop a blend of luxury and performance thatâs worth the price. The shape, too, is striking - from the side or the front.
Moves to Finals as a Hi-Price
The finalists, then:
@Kanye_West & @chiefzach2018
@bang6111
@Ch_Flash & @moroza
@Xepy
@karhgath
@vero94773
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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