The Automation Shite Computer Owners Club

Welcome to the official Automation Shite Computer Owners Club! This will be the official thread for sad people like @adamd and @pyrlix who happen to work with or buy old, shite computers for no apparent reason.

I’ll start off with my tiny collection that I have for some reason managed to accumulate over the past 3 days:

First: A ThinkPad 570

This one’s a 1999 model. Paid a whole £25 for this. Not sure if I’ll keep it, I might just experiment with it and try to make use of the charger as the second computer in this list does not come with one.
Specs (not 100% certain):
CPU: Intel Pentium II (probably 300MHz)
RAM: 64MB caveman RAM
“GPU”: Neomagic MagicMedia256AV with a whole 2.5MB of memory.
No HDD (shall be run off compact flash)

Second: A ThinkPad X31

This is a (presumably) 2004 model. Offered the seller £15.49 for this at first. Unfortunately, he said no so I stepped it up and offered him £19.99 to which he (unfortunately) said yes!
Specs (again, not certain):
CPU: Intel Pentium M 1.6GHz
RAM: 512MB slightly newer caveman RAM
GPU: ATI shit with 16MB of fancy dedicated memory
No HDD (I’ll figure something out for this)

I’m sure this is nothing compared to some of the shit you people have so let’s see what you got.

Edit: As a sidenote, feel free to also post gaming related stuff here as I’m sure old gaming stuff is more exciting than just regular old computer stuff. However, while “old” may be subjective, I don’t want to be seeing your Xbox Crystal here :stuck_out_tongue:

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I’ll have to pull my old Toshiba laptop out of my closet to take a picture.

But it’s not that horrible compared to what you have, with it’s 1.6Ghz Celeron M, 1Gb RAM and 128Mb integrated GPU.

It surprisingly still works fine, and I used it as a school laptop to take notes until last year, although with a seriously patched up power cord.

“Horrible”

I should point out that in this context, shite is used as quite an affectionate, appreciative term. See also Autoshite for example, a community dedicated to the preservation and running of old unloved stuff like Lada Rivas and Austin Ambassadors.

I’ll dig something out and get some pictures later of whatever I get to hand first. I have many entries. Banner is in progress.

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I’ll bring a (2008?) ThinkPad T410 to the table. It’s not really that bad. It’s sucked more dust than a vacuum cleaner does in it’s entire life and I strongly suspect the fan has stopped running. No idea how much RAM it has. And the power cord frayed and ultimately snapped so I’m on the lookout for a replacement. Still wondering what to do with it.

Time for a small post from the german labs.

This is my 1993 Amiga 1200. Quite a remarkable device - the history of the Amiga Homecomputers is very interesting and ended tragically in a failure/bankruptcy. Some great games came out on this platform.
The AmigaOS 3.1 i installed on it feels great, very intuitive operating system… considering its more than 25 years old.

Playing some hardcore LOTUS ESPRIT TURBO CHALLENGE - OH YES! You dont get this amount of data in a modern game anymore. The game is quite good too.
Pyrlix - YouTube If you want to see a short gameplay video of all 3 games.

Lé Hardware. 1GB CF Card as an HDD replacement, a classic Floppy Disk Drive and more stuff.
The base hardware was an Motorola 68EC020 CPU with phenomenal 14MHz and 2 Megabytes of RAM. Graphics are done by the LISA and ALICE chipset (also called the AGA chipset for some reason). Sound is done by Paula - an 8-Bit 4-channel Stereo chip.
The small ACA1233n module on the right is the part that makes much more fun - its an accelerator board with 128Megabytes of additional RAM and a Motorola 68030 CPU with blazing 40 MHz… its fast enough to play DOOM at crazy 25FPS at low details.

Now comes the “portable” PC.


Siemens Scenic Mobile 710.
Processor: Intel Pentium MMX (?) with 166MHz
RAM: 223MB pre-caveman EDO RAM
“GPU”: WHAT IS THAT? CHIPS 65554 with 4MB
HDD: Something that rotates with 10GB
Display: 12,1" 800x600 TFT.
Battery: None - can throw out the floppy or optical drive for that - the battery would provide me with 4h runtime
Ports: USB 1.1, Serial+Paralell Port, InfraRed DATA, Dockingstation Port, Game/MIDI Port, Line IN/OUT, Headphones and Microphone AND 2x PS/2 for Mouse/Keyboard

So thick you can kill someone with it

Awww…

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i guess i’ll bring two computers to this thread (also may get pics later). the first is a Dell Dimension 4200 i still have hooked up and use as a 2nd display for information. the photo of the tower with my 800W PSU in it is on the forums if you dig enough. spec-wise it has a P4 at 3.2 GHz, running windows XP on a 80 gig hard drive. 2.5 gigabytes of DDR2 ram is more than enough, could even handle 7 if i so wanted. and finally, the graphics, which is just whatever the integrated is on it :stuck_out_tongue:

the 2nd crappy PC is another dell, a latitude D810. the date of manufacture is in around 2005, and if you’re curious, yes, it was the model infamous for the exploding battery, luckily i double checked, the battery had been replaced as part of the recall luckily. spec-wise, a Pentium M at 1.6 if i remember correctly. cannot remember the graphics. ram is 512 megabytes, and a 40 gigabyte hard drive. with a lightweight linux distro though it is surprisingly responsive, and handles 2017 web browsing and basic tasks like a champ

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Beautiful machines sir.

Taking some photos of one of my latest acquisitions to stick up now.

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Right then, start of my small collection of tat.

This is the latest one I’ve picked up, for what I think was a relatively bargain price of about 20 quid, looking at the rest of ebay at least. Probably because it didn’t have many pictures, no real description, and the title was wrong.

1999 Apple iBook G3 Clamshell in Blueberry, one of the early ones prior to the launch of the SE range. That means 300mhz G3 processor, 32mb RAM, 3.2gb hard drive and 4mb ATI Rage Mobility.

As anyone who knows me will know, I’m not Apple’s biggest fan, certainly not of their more modern stuff, and I think I surprised a few people (including myself) when I picked this up. I always liked this era of Apple stuff and this is easier to have around than a similar iMac. As I mentioned above, the listing was not great so I stuck in a speculative bid and got lucky.

As you can see, this one has been upgraded to Mac OS 9, and it’s had a nice boost to 160mb RAM. I say nice because this thing is slow even for what I remember back then, so I can’t imagine what it’d be like with 32mb. This would have been $1599 new back in 1999, absolutely mental, can’t find what UK pricing was. If it’s anything like now it’ll have been £1599.

It does have an optical drive, CD only, which appears to work OK. It was the beginning of the trend of stripping ports off laptops, so it’s got 1 USB 1.1 port, an Ethernet port, a modem port, a headphone port and a charging socket. The glaring omission there is the lack of any sort of video output, which didn’t come until later models. Firewire was also a later addition, and this has no wireless capabilites as the first version of the Airport card at the time was an optional extra.

It does have quite a cool UFO style charger unit:

That top bit there is the mains lead coming in, which is slightly see through and comes away like a bog standard charging lead. You do get the feeling that Apple were at least trying to get away from the norm back then and put some soul into making cool, well designed stuff rather than going all minimalist and grey like nowadays, not that they’re the only ones doing that.

Bad points I can find with it up to now are that the touchpad/mouse button are completely dead, the battery isn’t even recognised as expected, and I think a lot of the slowness is caused by the hard drive, which sounds like a load of marbles rattling in a tin can under load.

Plans for it are to sort the touchpad, source a battery, get an Airport card in there, max out the ram to 544mb and put either a decent hard drive or some sort of cheap PATA SSD/CF Card in an adapter into it. I managed to pickup a boxed retail copy of OSX 10.3 for a few quid, so that should let me get 10.4 onto it using XPostFacto. A damn thorough cleaning while I have it apart needs to be done as well

Didn’t intend writing too much for this as it’s one of the newer things I’ve got but never mind. It’s certainly iconic if nothing else.

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Makes me hard


CES 1998 winner

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Been meaning to make a post for this one for a bit but I’ve been lazy and was waiting for a couple of accessories to arrive from Germany.

This is an Atari Portfolio launched in 1989 as the world’s first palmtop. Actually a rebadged British product built by a company called DIP Research in Surrey, the Portfolio was a mostly IBM PC compatible machine that ran on 3x AA batteries, and was used mainly by people on the road such as journalists. They still have quite a good following today, and I use this one to take notes in meetings.

Specs are:

  • Intel 80C88 at a shade under 5MHz.
  • 128KB RAM
  • DIP DOS 2.11, an almost compatible version of MS-DOS 2.11 loaded from 256KB ROM.
  • Lotus 1-2-3 compatible spreadsheet, word processor, address book etc.
  • Runs on mains or 3xAA batteries which last about 2 weeks.
  • Battery backed flash memory cards in varying sizes from 32KB up to about 4MB. I have a 64KB shown here, or a bigger 1MB unit that adds a block to the side of the Portfolio.
  • Various interfaces for data transfer and comms, I have the Parallel and Serial interfaces.

The Portfolio developed some of it’s cult following due to it being used as the hacking tool of choice by John Connor in Terminator 2 used to “borrow” money earlier in the film, then break into the Cyberdyne vaults later on:

Here it is next to a battered old VHS for scale:

With a memory card and the parallel interface just behind it:

And, the post wouldn’t be complete if I didn’t have a grainy film of it doing it’s famous Terminator 2 party piece with added DUN DUN DUN, DUN DUN:

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Does this count?

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A late 90s AlphaSmart word processor? Absolutely, haven’t seen one in use for years.

You’re still using that thing? :+1:


Stuff that’s around in my household (all working but none of them is in use as of now):

  • Frael King (IBM-compatible)
  • Nintendo SNES
  • Gericom Hydrospeed 2000 notebook

I might take some pictures when I have time.

I have much older electronics
Sub Chase 1978 Handheld
Magellan nav 5000 1991 GPS
Sony Watchman 1984
Montgomery Ward p200 calculator 1974
Realistic Minisette-12 Tape deck 1984
Motorola Microtac 1989
PIcs on request

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Watchman and Microtac, ooof yes, excellent stuff. My lots start at about 1981 and work from there, I just won’t go through them at once, too many are away. :stuck_out_tongue:

So it appears the T410shite has reached the end of the road in terms of upgrades for now. Here’s the journey it went through. This is all after I acquired a charger for the thing.


This was the laptop during the initial “teardown” if you will.

Discovered that it had an easily accessible second drive bay

There was something I was aiming for…

…to clean this grotty old fan! Yeah the cooling system on this wasn’t really working. I didn’t have any thermal paste so for now it’ll have to stick with the same 8 year old stuff.

After cleaning it out some, it looked healthier in there

And out went XP Enterprise and in went Windows 7 Professional. It originally came with that and had the key on the Windows COA sticker underneath. This is actually a hand-me-down from my dad’s company when they replaced it with newer T series Thinkpads, so they were the ones who “downgraded”

Had a bit of a moment when it didn’t pick up any drivers for networking but I threw drivers from Lenovo support at the computer until it so happened that the ethernet one worked. After that, I just let Windows Update fetch the working ones and everything ran smoothly.

It’s worth mentioning that this still runs rock solid today. 8 years down the line. It boots up in under 15 seconds into Windows… which is absolutely absurd. The last thing that was bottlenecking it’s performance once running was the 2gB of RAM. Which was cured soon enough…


1x4gB of Crucial’s finest DDR3L-1600 SODIMM sticks!

So then I plugged in an old crappy wireless mouse I had sitting around, cleaned it with some alcohol and here we are today. Would I use this on a day to day basis? You bet! All in all, it was 20eur for the charger, then 35eur for the RAM. It’s now going to be a home PC, but mainly for my mother who kept complaining about having nothing more than an iPad. So 55eur later we have a fantastic ThinkPad T410! Worth it :ok_hand:

Maybe one day if I have some extra budget I might consider nabbing a low capacity SSD (around 60gB), cloning this HDD to that and then using the current one as a storage drive.

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These are proper machines, Thinkpads are still about the best “normal” laptops imo if you just want to work and have something you can rely on.

I’ve had a little saga with a fairly recent acquisition, something some people would probably refer to as being from the British Leyland of computers - an Acorn A7000+.

Brief (ha) bit of history - Acorn Computers may no longer be with us, but what they left behind was hugely important for reasons I’ll go into later.

This machine was Acorn’s last attempt at going after the home market, and ran alongside the workstation Risc PC up until Acorn’s demise. While they were never a huge seller as by this point Windows PCs were taking off, these machines were hugely popular in schools, as Acorn had produced the BBC Micro years earlier for the BBC’s computer literacy project in schools. Due to that partnership, those Micros would later go on to be replaced by the Archimedes line which was what I grew up on, Acorn A3000s/A3020s, and to a smaller extent the A7000s seen here. In our school only the teachers had A7000s and in very small numbers, as the Computers for Schools project was beginning to move to Windows based machines by the mid to late 90s.

I had been aiming for a Risc PC for a while but prices are on the rise, this A7000 came up with a fairly low starting bid on Ebay and I chucked a low bid onto it on a lunchbreak expecting it to rise later on. 9 days later I woke to a notification telling me I’d won it. At this point I decided I should probably look at the pictures properly on a bigger screen than my phone and noticed potentially why it had remained so cheap - the on board CMOS battery had leaked and the top corner of the motherboard was rather covered in green fur and acid damaged. There was only a very blurry photo so the damage wasn’t too clear. I was tempted to try and cancel the sale, but decided to go for it anyway as if it didn’t work, it’d make a cool PC case right?

Specs of this are as follows:

48mhz ARM7500FE SoC (Yes, that ARM, again I’ll come back to that later)
8MB of soldered on board RAM
RISC OS 3.71
4x Sony CD-ROM
840MB Conner Hard Disk

When it arrived at my underground PC repair lair, it had obviously been apart as it was a bit cleaner than the blurry picture I’d seen, the drive cage was lose and had been pushed out of place and was resting on the board. Despite the cleaning attempts, the damage was still obvious and wasn’t pretty.

The big SMC chip in the middle there had green pins down the side nearest the battery, and the acid damage had worked along the tracks along into the serial ICs, IDE circuitry, real time clock, it didn’t look good. So, I got myself a toothbrush, swabs, some vinegar and some IPA, and got scrubbing.

This picture was during cleaning - it didn’t get a lot better than this to be honest by the time I was done, this is mostly damaged solder mask now.

At this point I decided to give it a bash and see where I managed to get to, knowing that I’d be missing at the very least the CMOS/RTC circuits (I didn’t know about IDE damage at this point).

An important point to make here is that Acorns had the base OS in ROM, at least enough to boot to a basic desktop or from a disk. Because of the soldered on RAM and socketed ROM chips, you can run it in a bit of a frankenstein state to check that it will at least boot.

First boot saw nothing other than a green light. This was kind of expected as I knew it wouldn’t know where it was due to the lack of CMOS anything. Upon doing a reset on boot attempt two, I heard a noise I hadn’t heard for the best part of 20 years. Acorn’s make a beep when they pass POST similar to a PC, but rather than the harsh BEEEP you get from a PC, they make this very soft, recognisable sort of “foop” noise. You can hear it briefly here at about 10 seconds:

I just about teared up as childhood computing memories came flooding back :stuck_out_tongue:, but sadly I had no output on the Samsung TV I was trying to use. I knew my main PC monitor supported a few old weird modes so went and grabbed that, and lo and sodding behold:

After sitting here for a good while, I was greeted with a disk error which was expected due to the lack of disks, and then joy of joys, an actual desktop:

At this point I tried reconnecting the hard drive which I’d checked was alright, but the machine still wasn’t seeing it. A user was having a similar problem on an Acorn forum and provided the route of some traces which were damaged on my machine, so I started there. I was very nervous at this point, as I’d never soldered SMD anything before, and I knew pads and stuff had already been attacked by acid. My first attempt at jumper leads were not particularly neat, and I added a battery holder to replace the CMOS battery I had removed earlier.

Mid first repair:

Getting this back together did show progress, the machine was now seeing the hard disk, but would fail with an error immediately upon trying to access it:

At this point I was pretty lost and it was getting near the end of my knowledge. This had managed to get the floppy drive working and my battery was now keeping the CMOS settings, but my IDE was still almost completely dead. I started looking into replacement motherboards, but prices are mental relative to the value of a working machine. As the little bugger appeared to actually be trying, and I couldn’t really make it any worse, I decided to perservere and learn. I spent a few hours with my multimeter tracing this beautiful diagram across the section of the board where the IDE circuitry lay.

All roads lead back to the big SMC controller chip in the middle in the pictures above. After a few hours, I managed to find one trace on the underside of the board that while looking relatively undamaged, was showing high resistance. I put a jumper across it as I couldn’t find anything else, tidied up my previous jumpers as they were too long, and fired it up for one last attempt.

I have never been so damn happy to hear the clicking and whirring of an ancient 90s hard drive.

This also meant the CD drive was now working, so it felt appropriate to play a certain piece of 90s inspired musical beauty:

I was cheating a bit here using a WAV, but it will just play a 128kbps MP3, with the CPU absolutely pegged at max usage.

At this point, after tidying my repairs, I had the machine working completely and absolutely perfectly. Got a few games going just to check it was all OK, and managed to bag myself an ethernet card off Ebay that I haven’t managed to get going yet. As luck would have it, a work colleague is into old computers as well, and had a copy of the full Acorn internet suite with drivers for the card I got on a CD from the era, but no machine to use them on, so lent them to me in the hope I can get it online. Further things to come from this one I think.

Now if you’re still reading, 1) you must have very little going on, 2) you may be thinking “You still haven’t told me why Acorn is so important you prune.”

Well, in a sort of rough abrdiged version, after the BBC Micro, Acorn wanted to move onwards from the 6502 CPU and created something called the Acorn RISC Machine, or ARM, CPU. Their aim was efficiency rather than outright power, so cheaper production costs, lower power requirements, and lower heat output. The perfect example of this can be seen in the A7000 - here was a machine that could compete with mainstream PCs of the team but had extremely lower power requirements and was completely fanless in it’s standard spec.

The first ARM was an addon to the BBC Micro as a coprocessor, while the second version of this architecture went on to power the first few of the Archimedes line of computers and was a relative success, less so as home machines and more as education tools. In 1990, Acorn moved the ARM section of it’s business to a seperate company and renamed it Advanced RISC Machines Ltd, which would later on become the ARM Ltd that exists today and escape the demise of Acorn Computer.

In the late 80s, a company you might have heard of called Apple Computer formed a sort of partnership with Acorn to develop a new version of the architecture which would go on to be used in the Newton PDA. The Newton might not have been a success, but that sort of application proved to almost be a vision of the future, as while ARMs usage became less suited to use in desktop machines it’s low power use and low thermal output meant it took over the world of mobile processors. Phones, Tablets, Cameras, Games Consoles, Routers, Media Players, even watches now all (mostly) use CPUs based on the ARM architecture, making it the most used CPU architecture in the world by quite some margin.

Before anyone fact checks, there might be some tiny errors in that last bit but I was (honestly) trying to keep it a bit short. :stuck_out_tongue:

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So this is a Dell Dimension L700cx i picked up for free. It is pretty much the early 2000’s school computer. It has a Celeron 700 clocked at, you guessed it, 700 mhz. It has some kind of shite on-board graphics with 4mb VRAM. I believe the computer was originally sold with 256mb of RAM but this has been upgraded to 384 mb as it has two separate modules from two different manufactures (hynex and micron.) I removed whatever old version of Ubuntu was on it and installed Windows 2000 Professional SP4. it has a generic Dell 3.1 sound card and it has both an Ethernet and a dual modem card. Despite being how bad it was when it came out it is surprisingly fast to boot and open programs. That can be attributed to the 80gb Seagate NAS drive in it (probably added with the ram.) I plan to make it a 90’s gaming pc by putting in a ATI Radeon 7000 PCI. I would buy an Nvidia geforce 2 mx but it lacks an AGP so i will have to make due with the 7000, which is vastly better than the integrated. it also came with a 15 in budget Dell CRT (not flatscreen.) I do not plan to use this myself and I will give it to a friend or turn it into an ITX all in one. I will keep you updated as more work gets done on it!







Enough pictures?

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