by the way @BobLoblaw what course are you using for the proving grounds? Is it Conan’s auto X? I hope not, because if so then my car would be slower than some cars that are even less powerful than it is…
The hype is real…
It is Conan’s auto X. For the pursuit test I use the Streets of Detroit Track.
mfw my car makes nearly 100hp more than yours and is also slower than nearly all the cars here on the auto X track
Thank God for drivability then that Detroit track is very unforgiving on low drivability cars.
Police Reviews, Round 2.
Enforcer (lordvader1)
Worden: The Enforcer looks to be a fairly standard sedan, It rests on an AWD platform and has a 3.0L turbocharged inline six under the hood. Repair costs are a bit high on the end of the spectrum but not unreasonable. My concern lies with another manual transmission and the use of premium fuel. With a price of $16,500 we could afford 15 units.
Levinstein: The car is fairly simple to control, nice and comfortable to drive. There’s decent space to carry equipment, and it receives a ‘good’ crash test rating. Braking distance is a little longer than average but nothing to be too concerned about. Taking it around the lot I managed 1:06.93.
Hayes: When chasing Marc around twisting bends, I found myself at a slight disadvantage. As the road straightened out, the Enforcer came into it’s own able to keep a decent pace. It’s a tough decision, the car is definitely better for highway patrol than for city use, but I don’t think we can dismiss this car yet.
Hatchback popo (theultimated00m)
Worden: Here’s a rather small interesting submission. Donna from Accounting noticed it and described it as “the cutest looking police car she’d ever seen.” For a car it’s size the fuel economy is rather disappointing by comparison. I have seen others that put up better figures even though they boast considerable power outputs. The 2.7L while being thirstier than it lets on does put out a good power amount. The engine does seem to be less able to withstand heavy abuse which may attribute to the higher than average service costs for this vehicle. The car calls for Premium fuel which would be complicated to set up within the city. The low price of $12,650 would enable us to purchase 19 units.
Levinstein: Okay, I want to tase whoever came up with that name! The Hatchback *ugh popo has a decent amount of interior space despite the smaller size. Not much in the back, but then that’s just incentive to not break the law. The car is easy to control and could pull a 1:07.75 on the Proving Course. Slower than average, but we’ll see how it holds up in a chase.
Hayes: The car delivered a lot more than I expected. In the initial part I had trouble keeping up, but through the rest of the run I was generally within a second of the Montauk.
Storm Interceptor (Madrias)
Worden: This one is an effort to go for quality over volume. A 6.0L V8 rests under the hood. An AWD system also rests under the chassis. The car is predictably thirstier than other contenders, and also suffers from higher service costs than normal. At a high $24,720, we would only be able to afford 10 units, though they would certainly prove popular among the officers.
Levinstein: She’s a big, heavy sucker, but certainly has the powertrain to haul it around. I threw it around the course amazed at how forgiving it was when I would attempt to get it in a slide, it was remarkably simple to correct it. A nice spacious interior and a CD player to boot. Her large size did prove a liability but I was able to eke out a 1:06.85 on the course. Nothing spectacular, but within the average.
Hayes: In the beginning I was almost wondering if this car would have trouble, but I was able to stay on Marc like glue.
Honorable Mentions: Highest Driveability, Comfort, and Safety stats.
Boss Interceptor (KLinardo)
Worden: I sense a bit of rivalry between the Boss and the Storm, they both appear to use similar platforms and share the same name. The Boss features a 4.6L V8 under the hood, while it offers a lower output, the car is also less thirsty than the Storm. The more simplified RWD platform leads to lower service costs, keeping them within a good margin. The cost of $19,910 means we could afford 12 units.
Levinstein: Not the most comfortable car I’ve driven, the Boss Interceptor has a spartan interior. A basic radio at least means I can listen to music on my patrol however. It’s not as composed as the Storm when it comes to maneuvering, but it’s still pretty manageable. The lighter weight from not having an AWD platform helps considerably as the Boss can make it around the Proving Course in 1:04.32.
Hayes: The Boss Interceptor handled like a dream going after Levinstein. Every attempt he made to shake me, I stayed right on him! I would not object to something like this in the fleet.
Pragata Gentala Dinas (Denta)
Worden: A pretty impressive all-rounded wagon, the Dinas is powered by a 4.0L V8 which offers good output combined with decent fuel efficiency. Alloy wheels are a minor concern but service costs are reasonable and the price tag of $16,610 means 15 units for the fleet.
Levinstein: Well, it’s reasonably comfortable though the lack of any radio is a bit irritating. The car maintains good composure when driving and I have no trouble getting it to go where I want it. Despite it’s appearance it is surprisingly nimble pulling a 1:04.98 on the Proving Course.
Hayes: I’m astonished at how well this thing gets about. The Montauk had no chance of getting away from me.
Vichingo Utility (Stenson)
Worden: Well, I wouldn’t call it imposing. The Vichingo Utility sports a 1.7L three-cylinder under the hood. The car gets decent fuel economy, but not as high as several more powerful cars listed. Mid range service costs lead to question whether this car would be good for our fleet or not. At a low price of $11,880 we could replace 21 cars.
Levinstein: It’s cramped and quiet, once again I have been denied a means for audio nonsense. The car accelerates slowly but is capable of stopping from 60 MPH in less than a hundred feet, one of only two cars we’ve tested capable of doing so. The small, lightweight car did pull a 1:05.46 on the Course, so it does possess some nice handling qualities.
Hayes: Unfortunately the slow acceleration kills this car when conducting pursuit. Unless I was chasing the suspect through a shopping mall, this car is too disadvantaged on the road to catch anyone. I would forward a recommendation for use by Campus Police, that sort of environment would be ideal for a car such as this.
Bush Fidel V8 Leo9613
Worden: Apart from a rather obscure name, the Bush Fidel V8 is a pretty ordinary sedan. Practical for hauling gear, the car can carry a heavier cargo load than it would appear. The 4.6L V8 is of fairly solid construction as is the rest of the car. Decent service costs and average fuel economy make for a tempting contender. The design and materials used in construction do seem to invite a risk of corrosion. With how long we’ve had some of our cars, the less risk of a car rusting apart the better.
Levinstein: Nothing too spectacular about this car, it’s controllable, but just doesn’t feel as smooth as other cars. I also read about the poor safety ratings this car received. We are at enough risk in our jobs to add death by car accident to them. While the car runs an average stopping distance, the brakes tend to start fading after heavy use, not an ideal situation when things get serious. The car did pull a 1:07.47 on the Proving Course.
Hayes: I gave this car everything it got, unfortunately Marc kept pulling away.
Honorable Mention: Lowest safety, Highest brake fade.
Omicron (Microwave)
Worden: A fairly solid sedan that uses a 2.5L inline six. Power output is low, but we will see how it puts that power to the ground. This car is good on gas and service costs are fairly low. The use of a manual transmission is my only complaint about this car. The last time the DPS had manual transmissions in it’s fleet, it felt like we were changing clutches an average of once a month for each vehicle. The PD are generally good about taking care of their vehicles, but they still thrash them more than I care to think about. With a MSRP of $16,610 we could get 15 cars.
Levinstein: After the last few cars it’s nice to get into something more comfortable than a bed of nails. It’s also nice when the car isn’t a potential death trap. The Omicron is capable of stopping within a good distance with no signs of fade. She pulled a 1:06.71 on the track.
Hayes: The low power output of the engine really shows itself here, poor acceleration means I was unable to apprehend the suspect.
AAU Uisio PPV (Rk38)
Worden: I’ve seen cars like these around before, they have a good reputation for reliability. Rock bottom service costs and average fuel economy make this car a serious contender in the eyes of budgeting. On the flip side, the use of galvanized steel to save costs does make the car more susceptible to rust. And again we are presented with a manual transmission. Also noticed was a rather large series of panel gaps. This results in the car being less aerodynamic and increasing fuel consumption (-15 quality slider on aero) The car is dirt cheap at $11,330 which means we could buy 22 of them, replacing all but our '91 Gran Romeros… but how do they hold up in the real world?
Levinstein: This thing composes itself real well when driven hard. I almost felt like I was driving a rally car. The 3L inline six is well built though it’s power output is a bit on the low side, still I’ve been surprised before. Stopping distance is a little higher than average but within reason. I was able to get around the Proving Course in 1:08.28.
Hayes: This car looked good on paper, but in practice it was clumsy and slow against the Montauk. It would make a fun car for enthusiasts, but not for a Police Department.
Honorable Mentions: Second Highest Overall Reliability Stat (by .1 points), Lowest service costs, Lowest price, Most units to buy.
Adenine Ambience Utility (Phale)
Worden: I was wondering when we’d get a normal SUV thrown in the mix. An All Wheel Drive vehicle like this would be useful in the winter months for sure. For a vehicle this size, it boasts impressive fuel economy figures. Let me just pop the hood and… oh dear. This isn’t quite what I expected, a turbocharged 2.2L four banger. It does look well built, and the vehicle as a whole seems pretty well engineered. To mix things up this one features a Sequential transmission. While lighter and even less expensive than a conventional automatic, I fear that may result in higher costs down the road when service is required. The truck also makes use of steel panels in construction that appears to have no kind of anti-corrosion treatment at all. While the undercarraige uses a more appropriate material, we may have to deal with body work in the future. At a cost of $13,860, we could afford 18 units.
Levinstein: I was a bit surprised to find a small four banger in a vehicle this size, but it does seem to offer good power delivery. With the size of this thing, the brakes had to work a little harder stopping further than average, but within acceptable limits. I was able to pull an unimpressive 1:08.02 on the Proving Course.
Hayes: I feel like I’m driving a Japanese tuner in an American pickup’s body. For what it is, the Adenine seems pretty quick, but in a pursuit, there was no way.
By tomorrow I should have the final reviews, I appreciate your patience, I know you all worked hard on your cars and I want to give a fair review on them all… even if it is thirty of them. (There was one I missed earlier)
Don’t worry, I think we’re all quite happy as you’re doing a fantastic job with the presentation. Good balance between engaging and cogent. I’m happy we agreed to give 3 days post submission for reviews.
seems the super cheap entries have some flaw, well at least it doesnt make me feel bad about my stratergies in this round
I agree with you - excessive cost cutting would be disadvantageous for this round given the requirements. In fact, for some of the entries, it was.
I think I’m in good company. But Christ, @Madrias, we probably could have collaborated on this one.
Oh, and one last thing:
Someone clearly hasn’t spent too much time in a late 90s police car.
Yeah, but which engine in which chassis?
Granted, no real rivalry, just two American companies trying their best to get the contract. I kept true to my core company values, using DOHC, AWD, and power to do what I could for a “Let’s give a different choice” strategy.
But yeah, we probably could’ve collaborated on this one. Would’ve been a hell of a car if we did.
What did you expect from the lowest end producer in a communist nation going through economic troubles
Well, at least it achieved everything I wanted it too.
Great work with these reviews @BobLoblaw , it’s a good setup with concise but thorough views and perspectives from all the different officers. Looking forward to seeing final reviews!
Reading these reviews @BobLoblaw, it looks like your rules for this round have worked out really well. You’ve managed to get a great selection of different vehicles/approaches, each with strengths and weaknesses, and so far no entry that is a million times better than the rest.
And - better than everything else - no f**king supercars.
but sadly. no trucks. no 'MURICA
chasing pushers on campus! all the right choices for me
first part of review. mentions everyone’s horsepower
second part of revirews keeps quiet about it
Third part of the reviews: Mentions one horse
The amount of entries sure have gotten big. It’s almost as if it could fill two threads or be spread to more reviewers or time. Else there’s a bit of pressure, I imagine.
Also, it speaks for itself that the reviews are intriguing to read despite not having participated myself, @BobLoblaw
so yeah. while we wait, if everyone agrees, shall we start cracking on the ‘standard’ review format?