I posted the 2000GT in the Open Source cars thread. I didn’t expect to win against the AE88 and GTC, but it happened. I’ll try to come up with a decent setting for Round 24 soon.
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Apparently my excuse worked 
My car was poorly styled because quite simply I spent far too much time on the engine (all of 20 minutes or so) and then right after I finished just going through all the tabs and selecting things the game crashed, so I was a bit too pissed to continue then. When I came back to it, I couldn’t be bothered to style the car, so I just plonked random fixtures and generally half-assed both the styling and the trim, as I couldn’t afford to properly optimise it. So if you felt the car was unfinished, @HighOctaneLove, that’s because it indeed was.
About the GT86, I really like toyota’s thinking and admire the car a lot. I’m all for straight-forward, affordable, fun to drive coupes, the world needs more of them!
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(dat 43.7 mpg tho)
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On the subject of affordable rear-drive coupes, Mazda hasn’t turned the current ND MX-5 into one (the RF is a semi-targa); it wouldn’t be hard to do so, and the resulting car would be a direct replacement for the NB coupe produced for the Japanese market during the early 00s. Even worse, Nissan has not replaced the S15 Silvia at all, in the mistaken belief that crossovers have replaced sports coupes on their customers’ shopping lists for the foreseeable future. This is unacceptable to many enthusiasts, and the only way to fix that IMO is to build the S16 on a shortened 370Z platform and give the resulting car a turbo four, ensuring it gets the straight-line pace it deserves. Instead of just two, we should have been able to choose from four small, affordable RWD coupes.
Damn! My entry only matches yours on the lap time and price, I’m still amazed how good your stats are all round! Typical Phale 
Thankyou for clarifying that Leo. It explains everything and I totally understand your frustration at having the game crash!
I’ll check it over and post a review soon!
Bonus Round II
I’m a sucker for punishment at times but I can’t leave anyone behind, damn it!!! 
Chosen by @ramthecowy: 4:35.35
A nicely styled coupe that is really fast down Haruna but cannot match the front runners for economy or price. Unfortunately, if this car had have been part of the competition it would have failed on a number of counts.
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Glued aluminium for the chassis would have seen the car knocked out in round two
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Brake fade and a 5 speed box would have knocked this car out in round four. In particular, there was free performance and economy to be had with the switch to a 6 speed 'box!
I hope this feedback helps you Ramthecowy; keep entering CSR’s and you’ll learn a lot about building “A Grade” cars!
And now I’m done. Congrats @EnryGT5, the stage is yours! I’m off to play Civ VI 
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Have fun, for the mighty love of high octane! And thanks for the round 
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Not just that, because the game put me off when I had time and when I realised I wouldn’t have any other time to do it, I was tired, stressed and had few minutes. Sorry for sending a not-so-good car.
Also, forgot to say before, congratulations to @EnryGT5!
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You hit the nail on the head with all your reviews this round. Fancy stuff like glued aluminum chassis or any engine part which requires a CNC shop to manufacture doesn’t really belong in the bargain-basement performance car sector without a very good reason - save them for upmarket sectors instead.
Well I do have a serious question on that point. Is it viable to produce decent but still budget cars with aluminium if that would save on tooling costs as opposed to say having both Steel and aluminium tooling? IIRC a number of companies have done this.
I am absolutely sure it can be done.
You literally just rephrased strops question to a statement.
i just got an idea. i’ll be counting
strike #2
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Yes it helps 
Audi did want to go for mass produced full aluminium body since the beginning of the millennium, which might’ve been possible to do cheaply, if it wasn’t, well, Audi 
Their motto for the development of the Audi A2 apparently was “Build a small car. Not a cheap car.”. The result was a car that looked like the Audi TT turned into a minivan 
the aerodynamics are still like +12 Quality, though. Needless to say, they didn’t sell as much of them as they hoped.
##The Car Shopping Round 24: Student Runabout
Year 2019, i finally got past the limitations on my driver’s license, and i can buy the car of my dreams! Or can i?
Honestly, not at all. I’m quite short on money for buying and running a decent car, so it looks like i’ll have to
compromise a little.
I can’t quite afford a new car yet, and even if i could, being an inexperienced driver, i would risk damaging it. So i’m looking for an affordable used car, from 1995 to 2007. The car has to be pretty small, as i don’t want to have problems driving in the city centre. I can’t afford the insurance costs of a large engined, or too powerful car,insurance gets insanely expensive, insanely quickly. A 200hp car would be very hard to insure at 19 years old.
The car must be at least somewhat practical,having a two seater that converts into a single seater whenever i have to go and do some errands kinda sucks.
Two seats are enough for me, since i hardly ever need more, but having some extra passenger space could be a nice little extra if the need arises.
Running costs are really important, i need good fuel economy, and good reliability. I row my own, so no automatics or sequentials.
Safety is not the main priority, it just needs to be at the level of most modern cars, same thing with Comfort.The most important thing is, it must be fun and easy to drive. I want something that handles really well and is quick enough to not get beaten by citycars to 100km/h. I care about the way my car looks, if it looks like the designers were drunk and had a picture of a Fiat Multipla as inspiration, i’m probably not going to buy it.
Requirements:
Trim and engine variant year from 1995 to 2007
Wheelbase: Under or equal to 2.50m
Safety: >40
Practicality: >15
Comfort: >25
Avg.Reliability: >70
Fuel Economy: <9L/100Km
Fuel Type: Regular Unleaded (91RON)
Manual Transmission
No Carburetors
Three-way Catalytic converter
The price of the car is calculated at 20% markup, and depreciated 3% a year starting from 2019.
Budget after depreciation and markup: €7500
Priorities:
High: Sportiness, Drivability, Fuel Economy, Running Costs, Reliability, Price.
Average: Safety, Comfort, Practicality, Aesthetics.
Deadline:
30th October 2016, 2:00PM (GMT+1)
Game Version:
Open Beta
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Since there are different ways of calculating depreciation, can you post a simple equation or calculator so we’re all on the same page?
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Regarding three-way catalytic converters, can we use high-flow versions of those? And can we use a turbo? By the way, the requirements are actually more liberal than I first thought - as long as I can stay under budget.
@phale The equation is: price*(0,97^(2019-trim year)) = depreciated price
@abg7 Yes to both. I wanted to see some creative approaches that aren’t i4 hatchbacks.
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i3 hatchbacks?
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