The Car Shopping Round (Round 64): Tears in Heaven

whaaaat… When I saw sonnet body (and I love that body) I was sure thats not the right way to go… Good round.

I may also have been better off using the Sonnett body due to its smaller size… Oh well. I never thought the rear seats were worth omitting anyway.

Just for fun, here’s a test build I made to show how my entry would have turned out if I had put the same SOHC I6 I eventually used inside the Sonnett body, with its low drag and mass:

The resulting car would have been faster and more economical, but less practical and not quite as safe. In hindsight, I should have tried out this possibility - I regret not having done so.

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Dude. Seriously.


Anyway, congrats to Enry for winning the 49th round, best of luck hosting the 50th! :smiley: And thanks to @Leonardo9613 for the fab reviews and great round idea, one of the my favourite CSRs for a while.

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First big thanks to @Leonardo9613 for hosting and it was an excellent round. Although I understand you had time constraints and I know how tricky it can be to host. Not to mention the massive number of entries this time around.

But it was still a little anti-climatic to see nine entries binned without so much as a passing decision as to why. Despite that, it was one of the most enjoyable rounds with a superb theme.

Anyway, Congrats to Enry for the win! Looking forward to the 50th round.

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Congrats to the winner! Also many thanks to @Leonardo9613 for hosting this round, it must have been a LOT of work to review 40 cars.

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Thanks everyone for the compliments, I did try my best to make it interesting and open to everyone.

I didn’t like to cut the 9 cars as I did, but it really was a decision I took based on time and effort required. After all, those cars were pretty similar, so choosing between each of them would get repetitive and tough. Actually, there might na a comparison between all the sporty hatchbacks and sedans somewhere, as it was so close to call between them that it could make for good long form reading.

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@Leonardo9613 - Nice round, although I should have used …JK :laughing:

Gratz to Enry on making me look foolish again…yeah, yeah, I know I made myself look foolish but I can’t really admit that!

Out of curiosity…do we now submit 1 car and then show off a whole fleet of cars (before and after the deadline) we should have entered if we had known the results beforehand?

Don’t worry, I’ll get my coat on the way out! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Many thanks and congratulations to the winner! Reviewing 40 cars seemed like a time-consuming nightmare until I realized the quality of the individual reviews… And the reason behind the final decision, which made hosting the round all worth it. No question, CSR 50 will be something to anticipate, thanks to the next host!

As someone who hosted a previous round, I can assure you that just importing and checking the requirements of a car, depending on the complexity, consumes minimum 10 minutes, then coming up with some kind of storyline and writing it down, another 10 minutes if you really keep it short. Multiply that by 40. 600-800 minutes or 10-12 hours of work. I had 17 cars and it took me around 45 min per car. You cant expect that level of detail when you have 40 entries. So don’t be salty and enjoy the competition. Even in real life buyers would maybe overlook your amazing car and go to the competition. That happens.

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AYY top 5.

this is a win for me :slight_smile:

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Uuuuuuuu 50th should be something special :smirk: (no pressure EnryGT5)

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Only now had the opportunity to catch up on this. Nice round with brisk reviews, respects for handling 40 entries!

Just, this confuses me:

If you mean the body I used, I don’t think it’s by Barth, but by CaptainD00M from “More Rear Engined Cars”.

Anyway, might as well disclose the stats with another billboard I was making, since there unfortunately hasn’t been much of a review on it:



The developers of this retro-futuristic-but-out-of-place car were having a very optimistic outlook on future fuel price development. As such, Leonardo might’ve been right about the premise of the dealerships being or becoming empty, just few would dare to get this rear engined leisure cruise despite eventually lowered prices, and unfortunately lowered quality due to company austerity measures like lay-offs and cost-cutting. So still possibly appropriate review :+1:
The few that did buy it might see its value rise in future due to its exotic nature, despite its drawbacks, especially in the auto-box that didn’t even receive helical gears anymore, with the “benefit” of it having a faint but distinctive jet-like whine.

Yes, it also just barely fit the engineering time limits and emission limit (We don’t need no darn catalytic crapverter!) despite the brief telling to refrain from min-maxing the budget, but making this thing really enticed me^^

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I thought this was a great round, and I fully understand the reason to bin my entry dies to its inline 3 engine. I only used that engine on the basis of it being a cheaper engine that would be easy to work on for recently graduated people with financial difficulties, but I know know that maybe a smaller yet smoother engine with more cyclinders may have been more desirable. GG @Leonardo9613

I’m really surprised the Gladius managed to satisfy Steve and Debbie’s needs, i figured a 68hp engine in that flashy body would get me a swift one-way trip to the Bin™. I guess those GT stripes really worked. This round was great fun, and allowed us to be quite creative with our designs.

Thanks to @Leonardo9613 for all of his work and effort. Reviewing that huge amount of cars isn’t an easy task.

But, i would like to pass on the hosting of CSR50 to the next available users in order of placement.

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That would be @phale then.

Let’s get started right away then!

CSR ‘50s: Dreamin’ and Cruisin’

I just came back from the 2017 Woodward Dream Cruise and I had so much fun! It’s been a family tradition of mine to travel to the Detroit metro area every August to check out all of the classic, cool, and just plain crazy cars that are on display here. If you’re not sure what the Woodward Dream Cruise is about, check out these albums to get an idea:



What I love about the Woodward Dream Cruise is that it’s just a fantastic celebration of American car culture. A lot of other classic car shows (cough cough pebble beach) are about stuck-up rich snobs showing off their super rare exotic cars that they drive onto a trailer and nowhere else. Woodward is the complete opposite. There’s no rules, no selection committee, no pretentiousness - anyone can show up and bring whatever they want! The cars at other shows might be expensive and exotic, but the cars at Woodward are truly unique, built by regular people who truly love cars. From rusted-out rat rods, to finely preserved luxobarges, to totally off-the-wall custom cars, there’s no shortage of variety and eclectic car culture at Woodward.

For next year, I want to take things up a notch. I want to be a part of this amazing event, and bring my own unique and memorable classic car. I want a car from the decade of the 50s, but I don’t have a huge budget, so I can’t buy some super rare car. Not that I’d want to, anyway. The more common the car was when it was sold (less PU/ET), the more likely I’ll be able to find one to restore. Also, a car that’s more reliable and less rust-prone may make things easier for me. It doesn’t have to be an American car - I’m sure there are some really interesting European or Japanese cars I could restore. Or even from some other parts of the world.

I live about an hour away from where the event will take place, and I could just rent a trailer to haul the car all the way. But, in the spirit of Woodward, wouldn’t it be more fun to drive the car the whole way there? If I want to do that, the car should have reasonable drivability, comfort, safety and fuel economy. And don’t make it too slow either.

But most of all, I want a car that is unique. I’ve already seen so many Mustangs and Chargers that I’m starting to get bored of them. That’s part of why I want to do a 50s car. There’s going to be lots of cool cars there, and I want something that will be memorable, that can stand out, and that might even have a little bit of WTF going on. I can totally appreciate a sexy sports coupe with classic FR proportions. But I’d also like to see something different, not just another American muscle car or European grand tourer. Something maybe a little unconventional, that approaches its goals in unusual ways. On the other hand, it doesn’t have to be full wacko either - a little taste can go a long way. And while crazy beaters might be one of the best parts of Woodward, just keep in mind that I’m potentially going to be spending several hours in this car, including 2 hours round-trip to Woodward and a few more hours cruising on it.

In short, I want a car that is unique, and is actually a good car in spite of - or perhaps because of - its quirks. A “good” car can be a race car, a family car, an offroader, or something totally different, just make it interesting!

Oh and obviously, looks are important. I mean, that’s kind of the point of the Dream Cruise. Also, feel free to include some history about the car and what it’s been doing for the past 60 years! You could even give me some suggestions about how you’d like to see the car restored/modified… in the Woodward tradition, of course :wink:

Rules

  • Kee engine only
  • Car and engine year: 1950-1955
  • Maximum estimated price of $12000 without markup
  • Maximum 80PU/45ET for car
  • Maximum 45PU/45ET for engine
  • No 98RON fuel
  • Barth bodies are not allowed. The ‘More rear engined cars mod’ is allowed.
  • Ad with at least a picture and price required - make it more fun if you want!

Limited production parts are allowed, but may harm your score.
Like with CSR21, I will be paying close attention to the PU/ET, and the original sale price is not as important.

For naming, follow the usual convention:

  • Car: CSR50 - username
  • Trim: Up to you
  • Engine: CSR50 - username
  • Variant: Up to you

Deadline: Tuesday, September 5, at 5PM EST

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Open question to everyone: Should I allow the rear engined cars mod? It would add some more variety (2 cars), but I wouldn’t want it to upset the balance. Barth bodies will still not be allowed.

Added variety is always a welcome prospect. It would get rather boring only using a small set of bodies (unless you can put a good spin on it. IE: Top Gear’s used BMW 3 Series challenge)

I would rather not want to use these mods, and hence prefer that they not be used in this round. Or it might be that I haven’t made enough rear-engined cars, and therefore have had too few opportunities to tune them to my liking.

And it makes perfect sense that there was a sequel of sorts to CSR21, except with 50s cars.

As written, those two clauses contradict. Wouldn’t there being little difference suggest that it would be fine to use them?