The Car Shopping Round (Round 64): Tears in Heaven

I’m curious what @phale actually means when he says wildcard. :thinking:

It’s all in the round description :wink:

I can’t do a proper wildcard until we have turbochargers, so I went with the next best thing. “What if America did V12’s instead of V8’s?”

The GSI Wyoming. It’s a truck. $9600.

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For sale, second owner. 1955 Oxnard Tourister. Last year of production. Garage kept, all original.


Towing package with high-compression engine, big brakes, four speed, 7 by 14 radials. Funky step-through ‘breadvan’ style British wagon. Rare variant for vacation/caravanning, deluxe trim. Double wishbone front, Jag-type IRS rear only with offset equal-length arms. Gas shocks, herringbone worm-gear power steering. Easy to drive, hard to miss. No reasonable offer refused.

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1955 Land Roamer Touring

Most people know the Land Roamer as an iconic British off-road vehicle, but few know the rugged 4x4 also came in a premium trim with a plush interior and V8 engine supplanting the standard asthmatic ant on a hamster wheel. In fact, the engine is the first application of the Roamer V8, a freshly licensed variant of the American Berwick ‘Galehead’ V8.

(Production cost was about $8900 in contemporary US dollars.)

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I’ve been trying to PM you my car for this round, but I haven’t been successful because I always get this error message instead: “Sorry, phale is not accepting messages at the moment”. What’s causing this, and how can it be fixed? If all else fails, go to post 8687 on this thread, and click on the download link I provided there. You’ll find my entry in the attached export file.

Edit: thanks for letting me know that you have already received my entry.

Don’t worry, I already got your entry.

BM 5.5 '55


100mph, 5.5L/100km. Comfortable cruising for just $7100

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Presenting the Mott Works Aqueos II


A small lightweight premium GT cruiser equipped with a 3.2L V12 making 200hp and a very comfortable premium interior with an automatic transmission. All this available for just $9900.

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Tiny but quick. At least that’s what she said.

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Submissions are now closed!

I have received submissions from the following people:

@TheElt
@rcracer11m
@Leedar
@Rk38
@ramthecowy
@laffinghyena
@oppositelock
@thecarlover
@LordLetto
@nerd
@abg7
@TR8R
@gridghost
@Der_Bayer
@JohnWaldock
@AirJordan
@koolkei
@BobLoblaw
@conan
@SkylineFTW97
@Madrias
@HighOctaneLove
@Fayeding_Spray
@LinkLuke
@VicVictory
@NormanVauxhall
@goblin95

That’s a total of 27 cars.

I’m hoping to get the reviews in before the weekend. Until then, we’re still missing quite a few ads people! :slight_smile:

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I said, ahem, we are still missing quite a few ads! :wink:

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Shhhhhh…less ads…better chance for me!!! :laughing:

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I’m hoping those last remaining ads get shown, otherwise there wouldn’t be quite as many cars to review!


An extremely rare image of the Daisuma Oehyo B4J in a 1954-1955 Anja Program brochure. (안자 계획; Anja Gyehoeg; short for Anikatian Vehicle Program). It was a state owned company that handled the distribution and ‘sales’ of vehicles.


A 1955 Daisuma Oehyo B4J. This is a unique example of the extremely limited number of Japanese export variants of the Democratic Socialist Republic of Anikatia’s state owned Daisuma Oehyo B4 micro van. Conceived as a method of providing the masses with a cheap and affordable people’s car…or van in this case.

While Daisuma is one of oldest vehicle manufacturers in the country it was ravaged by the Japanese occupation. Prior to the war, it produced a line of motorcycles and small Myeob cars using many licenced parts from foreign nations.

The Japanese directed the factory towards military production and as a result, it was heavily bombed by allied and later further damaged in the Civil War. No sooner had the communist government won a bloody victory in the civil war they pushed for rapid industrialisation following the Soviet model.

They started up production of motorcycles and their first post-war car was the Oehyo passenger and cargo micro van. Because of the shortages and harsh conditions, the body was constructed using a new glass fibre body instead of steel. A technique pioneered on the AWZ P70 Zwickau. To also save on resources the roof was fitted as standard with a synthetic-leather outer skin full-length sunroof. Steel was only used on for the basic ladder frame chassis.

The engine was an air cooled 383cc two-stroke 3-cylinder cast iron unit producing 12 kW that could run on the low-quality fuels available at the time. The Japanese export variant differed as the engine was de-stroked to a 360cc and retuned to run on the higher quality Japanese fuel. This allowed for no loss in power despite the reduced engine capacity.

The engine was paired with a 3-speed manual column shifter without synchromesh. The vehicle was extremely spartan with Anikatian drivers expected to do much of servicing themselves as auto workshops were not very common in the war ravaged and still mostly agrarian country side.

It was one of cheapest Anikatian-made cars and was produced in fairly large numbers from 1955 until 1960. However, the Japanese variants were not so common and were only exported for a few years before they became removed from the market due to a number of issues relating to its quality, safety, emissions. This may explain its extremely low sales numbers although deteriorating relations between the two nations didn’t help things.

The key differences to tell if you have a proper Japanese spec is the VIN number, smaller engine, extra lashings of chrome, a few extra colour options. Impressively the Oehyo B4J was able to reach a maximum speed of 100 km/h. While still returning an economical 6.07 L/100 km (38 MPG)

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i was gonna do more. but in the end. can’t be arsed to do much.

(also damn discourse for not accepting any transparency anymore)


For Sale : 1955 Rotsuma 3600 – 159000 KM

this car has very few rust, it’s been taken care under really good and used, it’s not a show piece car, as with the miles says. this has more runs during it’s lifetime than the average of this model. but the engine has been rebuilt 2 years ago, and a new coat of paint last year. all original parts still installed. the car is being sold because we need funds of your kids college. it’s very sad to let it go, since it was a car with memories for me and my father. i will only be releasing this car to someone that i feel that i can trust to take care of the car.

Call for Price

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huge shoutout to @Rk38 for helping out so much with the ad, thanks a lot mate!


A rare image of the DHB Special 53 in a 1954-1955 Anja Program brochure. (안자 계획; Anja Gyehoeg; short for Anikatian Vehicle Program). It was state owned company that handled the distribution and ‘sales’ of vehicles.


Following on from the long lived DHB 636 Special flagship, the 53 treads in it’s footsteps. The 636 was one of the very few Asian automobiles developed during the period, having survived Japanese invasion. With the bloody civil war ending, a new nation emerged. The Communist rebels declared victory. The Democratic Socialist Republic of Anikatia (DSRA) was established in 1951.

The humble 636 Special briefly served as the official national state car for the people’s dictator Kai Seul-ki. By the mid-1950s it was showing its age. So a new design was commissioned with technical and engineering assistance from the Soviet Union. A new powerful I6, and later, V8-specced models were developed. The new Special 53 retained the 636 style rear engine configuration but the new body was given a sleek new design taking styling cues from the GAZ-12 ZIM.

While the Special 53 was designed to follow the 636 it wouldn’t have quite the distinguished history. Today, examples are getting rare and becoming sought-after. While never officially sold internationally, a number were reported to have been gifted to friendly nations. After the slow opening and final collapse of the DRSA in 2001, the floodgates opened for international collectors. During this period, many models were bought for bargain prices.


This example, presented by @titleguy1 and @ramthecowy is one of the earlier series, fitted with the 3.5L straight-six making a hundred horsepower. Entertainment was of no importance, so instead focus was shifted to plushing up the two-row bench seating with 6 seats. Employing a 3 speed manual, the car does the standstill to 62mph run in 17.6 seconds, aided by the superior traction due to the rear engine placement. Drum brakes are fitted to all four corners. The Special 53 also manages 13mpg, rather an impressive figure for what it is.

For just $12500, this fine piece of 50’s Anikatian engineering makes for a very unique and comfortable buy.

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CSR50 Reviews Part 1

Alright, I’ve been wanting to restore a classic car for years, it’s time to finally make my dreams a reality and get started with this project! Luckily, the first step is also one of the most fun: getting to drive a bunch of classic cars!

NormanVauxhall


Mmmm. This car is just plain gorgeous. Even after years of fading, that cream color is on point and the car looks stylish from every angle. The exterior panels are pretty rusty but the unibody seems to be intact. If I hired some professional restoration services to clean out every inch of the car, it probably wouldn’t look out of place at Pebble Beach. But the Z1753 wasn’t a car for rich kids - it was too busy being a successful middle-class sedan and bringing its advanced technology to the masses. The longitudinal front-wheel drive layout makes it very historically significant and quite easy to drive as well - it’s like an Italian Citroen DS! Plus, the interior is spacious and reasonably well-appointed, so I could fit my entire family in here. The 68hp inline-4 is somewhat underwhelming, but at 14sec 0-60 it isn’t dangerously slow and it’s absolutely a steal for the price. For a car with this kind of history, I know I should be doing everything I can to preserve it, but part of me really wants to put a big V8 into it…

VicVictory


The Townsend TC2700 follows a very classic formula: A lightweight, 2-seat roadster, powered by a small, high-revving engine with plenty of top-end horsepower. The 2.7L V8 produces a healthy 134hp, bringing the car to 62mph in just over 8 seconds. The handling is superb and well-balanced. The car looks nice if a little bit plain, although it’s in very good condition since the chassis is galvanized and the panels are made of lightweight aluminum. Although it’s American, this car really reminds me of the classic British roadsters, with a better reputation for reliability to boot. Unfortunately, the light weight and rust-proof body come at a cost, which is that the TC2700 is relatively rare compared to some of the other cars I’m looking at. The car is also quite cramped and uncomfortable on the inside. I don’t mind paying more for a good specimen, but I am looking for something a little more unique than a slightly better British roadster.

LinkLuke


Next up we have an actual British roadster, the LLA Bandi- wait, are those eyebrows? Well, I suppose I did ask for something unconventional, and the Bandit’s strategically-placed vents would fit right in at the Woodward Dream Cruise. Unfortunately, this roadster doesn’t live up to some of its brethren, with unimpressive acceleration and handling. The car understeers excessively, the braking distance is subpar, and the suspension easily bottoms out over moderate bumps. The car is surprisingly heavy and front-biased for its size, and doesn’t have power steering to make up for it. The cramped interior didn’t help either. Unique design choices are not a substitute for solid engineering fundamentals.

Vri404


I love me a good sexy fastback. The VVR Pilot is a conventional FR coupe powered by a good old-fashioned 3.8L overhead-valve V8. The front looks a little plain in my opinion, but the side profile is great and I really like the triple round tail lights. It’s got pretty good acceleration (0-60 in 10s) and good handling in the corners, with a 49/51 weight distribution and a fun oversteer characteristic. What really lets this car down is the brakes, which are too weak and have excessive fade. That, and the rather conventional nature of it all. It’s not a bad car, and with some brake upgrades I could totally see myself cruising down Woodward with it. But I am looking for something a little bit more.

HighOctaneLove


Now here’s something you don’t see everyday. The Bogliq Ghanima is a micro-sized van powered by 1.1L I4 producing 42hp. It’s slow but not too slow, doing 0-60 in just under 17 seconds. The fun part is when you need to take a corner. First you hit the brakes and find them to be woefully underpowered, then you go into the corner with too much speed and feel the whole car nearly tipping over. It’s hilarious. If I didn’t fear for my safety with this car, I’d love to cram some V8 into it and do some really stupid things. Hey, this car is so cheap! There would be plenty of room in the budget to upgrade the brakes, tune the suspension, swap the engine… Maybe I can do some stupid things with it!

Madrias


Hey, I remember the name Devillain… where did I hear it from? Oh, that’s right, I watched a documentary about classic cars on Netflix a while back, and one of the cars they featured was the Devillain DR6. That was a really sexy car. The DR12 is kind of like that, but with everything turned up to 11… or perhaps I should say up to 12? Big, bold, and outlandishly styled, the DR12 would certainly stand out at Woodward. I love the sound of that ridiculous 8.0L V12, which rather hilariously uses a single eco barrel paired with six carburetors. With its thin 155mm tires trying to put down 277hp, this car will do burnouts for days before eventually reaching 60mph in just under 9 seconds. Its prodigious size and weight mean that it won’t stop or turn very well, but hey, it’s got a freakin’ 8L V12. Plus, it’s actually surprisingly affordable for how insane it is. The DR6 certainly laid a good foundation for the guys at Devillain!

SkylineFTW97


The DMV Trebuchet may look handsome and friendly on the outside, but behind the unassuming looks hides some serious performance credentials. This car is a classic case of stuffing a big engine into a small car. Its 3.8L OHC V8 produces an even 200hp, propelling this car from 0-60 in a seriously impressive 7 seconds. The handling is passable, but the brakes could be stronger and the tiny 135mm wheels make the car understeer heavily. The engine is a real work of art; you can see the quality that went into all of the parts. Unfortunately, that quality also means that this car is rarer and more expensive than I would like. It’s certainly a good car with some impressive performance, but at the end of the day it’s still another FR coupe and there’s not a whole lot besides the performance that you can show off.

Conan


The Vanquist 2600 V8 definitely piqued my interest when I first saw the ad. Here is a relatively big premium sedan, built on a sturdy ladder chassis, and powered by… a sportscar-like 2.6L flatplane V8? In person, the Vanquist looks really cool, with its intricate front grille and subtle hood scoop. Driving it is definitely a unique experience. The small V8 really encourages you to rev it out and listen to the unusual flatplane soundtrack. That’s the kind of thing you would expect from a lightweight roadster but instead you’re driving a big, comfortable sedan. And the Vanquist actually handles quite well for a car of its size, with respectable braking performance and a solid balance between understeer and oversteer.
I have to say that while the Vanquist’s engine is interesting, it’s hard to say whether it actually makes the car better. For instance, if I’m just going to cruise with this car at low speeds, I might actually prefer a smoother, torquier crossplane V8. Sure, the novelty factor alone makes it worth considering, but does the novelty factor alone make it worth buying?

Koolkei


The Rotsuma 3600 didn’t look all that impressive at first glance. When I looked under the hood, I had to laugh out loud. The 3600 name didn’t refer to some 3.6L V8 like I was expecting, it referred to a microscopic 360cc inline-4. Then I got into the car and looked at the tachometer. 9700RPM??!! WTF! The DR12’s 8L V12 may have been insane, but this tiny little motorcycle engine is even crazier. It’s packing dual overhead cams with 2 valves per cylinder, a compression ratio of 9.5:1, and twin DCOE carbs. It produces 36hp, which doesn’t sound like much until you realize that this engine is producing 100hp/L… in 1954.

The tiny engine means that this car is extremely lightweight, at just about half a ton. The acceleration is still quite slow - 16 seconds to 60 - but the car has some seriously impressive handling and braking performance. It can corner at over 0.9g and stop from 60 in about 35m without excessive fade. Both of those numbers are quite comparable to today’s cars, much less something 60 years old!

Unfortunately, the light weight does come at a cost: this car is totally lacking in safety features or creature comforts. It’s basically a four-wheeled motorcycle. I think the 9700RPM engine is awesome and unique, but will I still like it after hearing it buzzing in my ear for several hours?

AirJordan


Next up we have another small roadster, the Smooth Bluebeam. This car looks really interesting with its four-eyed visage and prominent vents and fenders. It’s certainly not conventionally attractive, but I quite like it, and I think it would stand out on Woodward Ave. This one is powered by a relatively conventional 2.1L OHV straight-six, producing 109hp. But it’s the chassis that makes this car really unique. It’s designed for optimum track handling, with highly advanced double wishbones all around and very wide 185mm tires - quite unusual for its time! Put everything together, and this car has some really impressive performance. It can sprint to 60 in about 8 seconds, and corner at an amazing 1g. Braking is not bad at 60-0 in 37m, although there are some serious fade issues.

The Bluebeam is definitely a great car and a fantastic performance value. But the Woodward Dream Cruise is not a race, it’s a parade (or, if you prefer, a glorified traffic jam). So I would hardly be able to make use of this car’s impressive limits. Although it’s on the rare and expensive side, the car is definitely interesting enough to merit further consideration.

JohnWaldock


The JHW Swallow 1300 is another small roadster that splits the difference between the four-wheeled motorcycle 3600 and the track monster Bluebeam, but it seems to lack the performance or the charm of either. The 1.3L inline-4 produces 57hp and accelerates the car to 60 in a middling 13 seconds. Cornering is unimpressive and limited by heavy understeer. Braking is also fairly poor compared to the other two. The Swallow mostly stands out for being cheap and therefore conducive to modifications. But I think I’d rather just get the 3600 or the Bluebeam and have the craziness or the performance to start with.

Der Bayer


Our fourth small roadster is the BAM Enios 756. This car is powered by a 750cc straight-six, revving to 8000RPM and producing 60hp, similar to the 3600. The engine has no mufflers, so it sounds even more like a motorcycle engine. The difference is that this car has the engine mounted in the rear. That’s definitely cool and unique, but like with the Vanquist, does the novelty actually improve the car? The rearwards weight distribution helps with acceleration and braking, but it makes handling squirrely at the limit, with strong understeer transitioning into terminal oversteer. That being said, I’m probably not going to be taking this car to the limits on Woodward Ave. I’ll keep it under consideration for now, although I suspect that the rarity of this car (due to the aluminum body) will hurt its chances.


Now that is what I call a productive day of “working” on classic cars. Today was heavily biased towards lightweight sports coupes, which may or may not have been simply because I wanted to take a bunch of joyrides in awesome classic cars. But after I choose a car, I’m going to be spending much less time on joyriding and more time on restoring it and making it mine. So I’m going to be looking a little more at cars that might not be as fun to drive, but offer that quirkiness and uniqueness that I love in old cars.

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Nice reviews.

IMO it’s hard to represent ‘strange quirks and cool features’ in Automation, since they tend to be in design details which the game glosses (e.g. interior design), or in rare engineering solutions that simply aren’t available in the game (e.g. three wheel cars).

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