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PRELUDE: RULEBREAKERS

Not all used cars are made the same; wear and tear overtime causes some parts to perform worse, and other parts to break altogether; plus, some owners like to modify their cars. The purpose of this competitions “Soft Rules” was to account for design too unrealistic for a stock car, but which could be explained as a result of the car’s age and past life.

Seeing as this segment is the slowest to grade, we’re gonna get it out of the way first. Overall, of the 25 really awesome valid entries in this contest, 17 cars incurred with some kind of penalty, usually for “unrealistic/uncharacteristic engineering” (the details of which, are explained below). But before we explore those, I should do the instabins:


2009 Taimania Mika SV 1.6

@desperatedonut5

This car exceeded the maximum price by a significant margin (it cost just over $3,000 once adjusted for inflation), and the creator was unable to submit a revision or replacement in time.

Which really is a shame, as this car was really well made. There’s a lot of attention to detail in it’s visual design, and it’s stats are exceptionally good; a budget-spec version of this car would’ve been a very interesting competitor in this contest!


Now, with that out of the way, let’s see who got penalized for what, and why.

1994 Denison King Snake DM-HP


@Violent_Lobster

Let’s start off with the most unique entry; this cute, weird little offroader right here. The car’s visual design (and forum post) portray it in a state of partial disrepair, and as having been modified in the past; but what does that mean mechanically?

Its engine, a 3.1L Pushrod I4 running cast iron everything, is fitted with individual throttle bodies, a race intake, and a pretty significant turbocharger. It makes proportionally a lot of torque (204lb/ft compared to 107hp), only revs to 2,900 RPM, and is tuned for 85.5 RON;

Front wheel drive is an odd choice for an offroader back then, but an even odder choice would be these thin, low-profile, medium compound tires. And the safety is at “standard 80’s,” which is a tad outdated for 1994 (even if the stat is still above 30). To top it off, the rear is running positive camber.

It’s safe to say, this King Snake is very far from factory condition, and has thus earned itself a 5 point unrealism penalty.

2007 Wells H1 Track Edition


@DuceTheTruth100

Notice that phrase, “Track Edition.” Because while this car may look like a Lexus, it bears a lot more mechanical resemblance to a Caterham, being so stripped of features that it makes a Kia Rio look like a Cadillac. And to be honest, it seems to be stripped too much even by track car standards; steel wheels, no ABS, basic 90’s safety (in 2007!), and hard tires (which are really high profile, by the way). Oh, and the brakes aren’t powerful enough to lock.

If it had been made to look like a weekend track car, it might have gotten away with some of that that shedding; but instead, it looks like a GT coupe (hell, it’s almost anachronistic). I wager it was not Wells itself, but some past owner cleaned out the internals of an H1 and took a few good spins in it. That, or this example was a base model that saw some things break over time.

Neither is really very desirable in a new car, so it walks away with a 3 point realism penalty.

On a completely unrelated note, part of its weight shedding involves it missing a radio, which is its own distinct 3 point penalty.

1998 Schnell L20 SLX


@interior

Once upon a time, this used to be a typical, entry-level hatchback, bearing a lot of resemblence to the Honda Civic. It would the kind of car your parents would’ve described as the perfect first car; if some past owner hadn’t messed with it.

In addition to the obvious visual mods in the photos (including spoilers), this L20 wears somewhat overpowered vented brakes, standard rate springs, and tires which are unusually low profile for their width, compared to other USDM cars of the day.

The VTEC-esque engine seems to have remained untouched, fortunately; the RPM does cut off before peak power, but power isn’t priority in a car like this anyway (and it has a nice, wide torque curve), so that can slide.

Overall, this wannabe-racecar gets a 3-point unrealism penalty for its mods.

And here’s our other wannabe-racer for today, a 2.8m sedan (probably once a midrange luxury car, given the premium interior and long wheelbase) wearing stripes, aftermarket spoilers front & rear, turbo stickers, and- hey, not gonna deduct for this, but is that wrinkle paint meant to represent a vinyl wrap? If so, clever!

But all that’s nothing in comparison to the engine, an inline-5 producing all the turbo lag you could ever want and more. Said giant turbo, as well as possibly many other parts, were probably bolted on by the previous owner- who probably had a really good time with it.

Buying someone else’s tuner car is notoriously bad idea most of the time, so let’s account for that with a 3 point unrealism penalty.

1993 Manda Tuono DX8 Z-line


@RAZR

This excellent sports car comes with 2 major faults. Firstly, the engine is tuned to run on 85.6 RON. And more glaringly, this sports car is running a Hydropneumatic suspension; the least sporty suspension type in game by miles. Though this car has no other problems, these 2 flaws are just major enough to earn the car a 3 point unrealism penalty.

On an unrelated note, it’s conrods had 2% engine stress each, so it also earns a 1 point engine stress penalty.

1998 Ibis Phoenix

This Muscle car is for the most part, build pretty solidly; though it does have a few wee oddities, such as its engine using a Direct-acting OHC.

But what earned the Phoenix a 1-point unrealism penalty is its front suspension, which is running positive camber. In a 30’s sports car, that would have been a common choice to make steering easier, but not in a 90’s sports car with power steering.

1990 Aim Swallow H8T


@lotto77

Ah, what a nice, practical looking wagon. It kinda resembles a Subaru Outback. A bit old but it seems to have aged well- HOLY CRAP THIS HAS 300 HORSEPOWER!?!?

Yup, this luxury wagon is actually an Australian muscle car, featuring a blue, turbocharged. 3.6L 300hp V8; which might actually be too much. It doesn’t look like anything else about the car is built to accommodate quite that much power, with its Honda-civic-width tires, regular solid discs, and a suspension tuned strongly towards comfort. This leads me to suspect that this Swallow’s engine was upgraded a tad by its previous owner, and to give it a 1 point unrealism penalty.

On an unrelated note, this was one of the few cars to gamble with premium fuel, so the house takes 1 more point from the Swallow.

2000 Etherea Sunburst


@Sky99

For such a specialized sports car (semi space frame and everything!), the lack of a Limied-slip seems odd; maybe it broke at some point? Also, the suspension is tuned more for comfort than sportiness, and the brakes seem slightly biased rearward. The result of 20 years of wear, I guess.

Said wear makes this Sunburst 1-point less valuable (unrealism penalty) then the equivalent non-worn sunburst.

There are 2 elements that combine to give this AWD sports car a 1 point unrealism penaly: Firstly, it uses a 5 speed automatic, which only the highest-end luxury cars (which this doesn’t appear to be) were even beginning to use in its year. Secondly, its RPM cuts off before peak horsepower, hampering the Garto’s potential.

1995 Neko CiX-2 2DH-X-US


@Mikonp7

As performance-specialized as this car seems to be, a 5 speed automatic is still a bit of a stretch for the CiX-2. Also, its basic 80’s safety doesn’t seem very up to date, and- worst of all -there’s a significant amount of positive camber on the rear. It gets a 1-point unrealism penalty.

On an unrelated note, it’s pistons and conrods had 1% engine stress each, which is just enough for a 1 point engine stress penalty.

1995 Mantra GT 5.0 S8


@Restomod

Another muscle car, featuring a 5L V8 that sends power to the… front wheels? Yeah, that seems wrong for a 250hp, 2-seater sports car of the era. Also, 6-speed manuals were for the most part only found on supercars in 1995; they’re a bit above this Mantra’s pay grade. 1 point off for you!

Another 6 speed manual on this long boi. Also, it comes with basic 80’s safety in the late 90’s; its safety score isn’t actually that bad, mind you, but it still gets a 1 point unrealism penalty for it.

(also... are those BRITISH plates??)

Haha funny patriotism meme

The most glaring issue with this muscle sedan is the brakes, which are not powerful enough to lock (and are slightly rear biased); the other main issue is the use of adaptive dampers, which seem a bit above the Kanna’s pedigree for 1994. Also, Hard tires on a car this sport-oriented?

These issues combine to give the car a 1 point unrealism penalty.

1993 Seneca R200 RS Turbotop


@voiddoesnotknow

You probably can’t see it in the photo, but this hot-hatch-esque car is running a staggered tire setup; the front wheels are 5mm wider than the rear wheels, which is really unusual for this price range. Also, the front brakes are way overpowered compared to front grip, providing a whole 3,500 more Newtons of force than the tire needs to lock. A definite 1-point unrealism penalty, here.

(And wait a minute- is that steering wheel... on the RIGHT?)

more funny patriotism meme

Positive front camber and (slightly rear-biased) brakes that can’t lock is the state we find this premium sedan in, and is the main cause for its 1 point unrealism penalty. Also, this car showcases a lot of turbo lag; it’s certainly not as extreme as the Stockholm’s, but it’s still pretty egregious.

On an unrelated note, there appears to be -4 quality on the engine’s top end; sounds like just enough to qualify it for a 1 point negative-quality penalty.

1991 Saarland Ambrosia ES-24


@Knugcab

And another car whose brakes don’t lock at low speeds (though in this one, the front ones start to above 100mph/160kph). Sure, they aren’t very far behind, but a performance sedan (which even has ABS) should be able to do better, so that’s 1 unrealism point for worn brakes.

On an unrelated note, this was one of the few cars to gamble with premium fuel, so the house takes 1 point from the Ambrosia.

This was one of the few cars to gamble with premium fuel, so the house takes 1 point from the 225PF.


Congratulations to the following cars which managed not to have any point penalties:

*(Side note:)

When I first imported the EHH, I recorded it running positive camber like the Ibis Phoenix, and gave it a 1 point penalty. But now, as I re-imported it to double check, I see 0 camber on both front and rear. I presume, then, that the first import must’ve glitched out, and have removed the penalty


Next up, we’ll try to make up for these lost points, by having Nathan serenade them with cool points. Will the penalized cars be likeable enough to counteract their faults? We’ll have to see…

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