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2020 Great Gasmean Hill Climb - Finals


#123

So, having returned from my little trip, submissions are closed.

The number of entries is very limited. Feedback I received connected this mostly to the open rule set. Looking at the way things are this competition will be over fairly fast. Unless there are requests for additional categories, I’ll stick to the two preliminaries posted now. I have another competition idea in the works, this time with more strict, CSR-like rules and limitations.

Here a short overview of the entries:

B Class:

User Car
01 @Aaron.W Tanabe Tanaka Aventis GGHC
02 @Nialloftara CPV TA Centauri Raider
03 @electroGG SW Wagner Hillclimb
04 @gridghost Scarab Reflex TAHC
05 @HowlerAutomotive Howler Prodigy PPR
06 @yangx2 Huangdou Shijie 385TA
07 @Xepy Kuma TD4RS
08 @Bf94387 ZZT Gniev BS
09 @machalel Epoch M10 Ansom RSA
10 @EddyBT BT Motors BTR Rubecula GGHC
11 @Kyuu77 KGB Tourer GRU Motorsport
12 @strop MM Espresso Hillclimb

Average Power: 524 HP
Average Torque: 457 Nm
Average Weight: 1136 kg
Average Engine PU: 48.4
Average Engine ET: 146.4
Average Trim PU: 148.5
Average Trim ET: 141.3
Average Material Cost: 17712.5

XS Class:

User Car
50 @gridghost Scarab Halo TAHC 20
51 @machalel Boccaccino Shuriken
52 @Bf94387 Ziamena Siringa EVO

Average Power: 186 HP
Average Torque: 167 Nm
Average Weight: 548 kg
Average Engine PU: 74.8
Average Engine ET: 149.1
Average Trim PU: 145.5
Average Trim ET: 143.9
Average Material Cost: 12073.2


#124

I’ll be waiting for the future competitions. I had a pair of very good entries ready for both classes, but college exams made me lose track of everything.
Also looking forward to outcomes the of this competition!


#125

Just reminding everyone that own times for ATT flying laps and the Hillclimb stage can be submitted. It will have a small positive (or negative) effect on your score. It is not mandatory.


#126

It’s a Minivan

eeyup

Does it even pass regulations?

eeyup

Did you go full strop on the turbo?

eeyup

Will it do a Richard Hammond if you so much as touch a kerb the wrong way?

eeyup

Are you gonna stop saying eeyup?

608hp in a shade under 900kg and costs well below average. Hopefully it makes Miros shit his pants a few times.


#127

Will you be taking the faster time between your lap and ours? Or if we send a time will that be what you use?


#128

I use my time (equal driver for everyone)

+1 point per 0.200 faster. -1 point per 0.500 slower.(to simulate driver skills). Again, optional.


#129

I think I understood but to be perfectly clear, is that to say we gain points if we are faster than you or the other way around?


#130

Correct, you gain points if you are faster than me.


#131

Ah, okay well given my keyboard handicap I’ll refrain from entering times then.


#132

OPEN B Preliminary - Part I



01 @Aaron.W Tanabe Tanaka Aventis GGHC

ATT Lap

General

The Tanabe Tanaka Aventis GGHC is based on the 8th generation Aventis. The sleek all aluminum saloon looks threatening painted in Prototype Black. It is not the lightest car in the category weighing in at 1260 kg, but it’s 527 horsepower 1.6 litre turbo-charged engine – based on the 7th gen J-series – should get it up to speed.

Design

Based on the Aventis, design is sleek and aggressive. The Tanabe team has modified the base car well and the hill-climb built looks the part with functional aero and subtle additional cooling. The only odd design choice is to have the double exhaust, when only one is functional.

Driving

The Aventis suffers some low speed under-steer. Once you pick up speed, it is clear the car is tuned towards quick turn-ins. The very stiff rear suspension has a tendency to send the car sideways when turning at very high speed. The brakes are nice and responsive, allowing for high brake pressure without locking the wheels up. Gearbox is a bit short, but this allows the engine to remain within the power band. All-in-all, this is a very fun car to drive, but I fear too loose in the corners and on braking to be competitive.

Scoring

The Tanabe scores very good on styling points, getting a bit extra for the extensive lore. The engine is very competitive in its costs and engineering time, but the car itself appears to use significantly higher than average quality materials. In terms of time, the Tanabe is not the best, mostly held back by its lack of stability. The resulting time of 1:58,214, and the rest of the points give a total of 49 points.


02 @Nialloftara CPV TA Centauri Raider

AAT Lap

General

The Centauri Raider is a car you see every day on company parking lots and near financial institutions, but usually don’t notice. CPV Skunkworks Shed has attempted to make the car live up to its name. Stripped down and lightened with carbon fibre where possible and with a racing inline-5 engine installed, the Centauri is raiding horsepower figures: 631 horsepower.

Design

CPV did its best, but a wide-body kit and wings don’t completely remove the bland car look. Especially the rear quarter remains boring, and the grill and lighting fixtures are outdated, even for the 2012 car it is based on. Remarkable also in terms of the design are various workarounds on the technical side to facilitate production. One example is the removal of external fuelling ducts. The body needs to be removed to top up the fuel.

Driving

The Raider is glued to the road and has extremely good turn-in. I’m not sure the engine couldn’t have done with a 6-speed gearbox instead of the 5-speed it now has. The car is occasionally between gears on track. This might worsen on a hill-climb section. Also a cause of worry are the brakes, which are dangerously close to overheating and giving up rather quickly. Driving is good though, but kind of mechanical.

Scoring

Technical review did detect a non-regulation seat. This had to be replaced before qualifying and let to a 2 point penalty. Again the extensive lore makes up a bit for the relatively bland styling. The engine scores decent, and the car itself has been produced extremely efficiently. Despite this, the total price is extremely high. With a rather impressive qualifying time of 1:51,726, the Raider sits at 58 points.


03 @electroGG SW Wagner Hillclimb

ATT Lap

General

The fifth generation SW Wagner, soon to enter production and sales, formed the basis of this purpose made SW Motorsport divison hill-climb car. Extremely heavy and underpowered, this is more of a show-case model than a serious contestant. However, there are rumors that this is more a test bed for a touring or endurance car version, than it being a true hill-climb attempt. It is clear that the engine is running a lot less rich than it could, and adheres to emissions racing restrictions.

Design

The fifth generation Wagner looks modern yet stays faithful to its American heritage, with the aggressive front and big headlights. The rear could be mistaken for a Japanese or German sedan, but this is not a bad thing per se. Race modifications include significant scaffolding for aero as well as additional cooling vents, integrated into the lines of the sedan with much thought for aesthetics.

Driving

Driving the Wagner feels heavy and the big sedan has issues turning in. The gearbox does not appear to be the most optimal choice either, with extremely short gearing at lower speed. Slowing down from high speed is slightly hampered by the extra weight, but apart from that the brakes are excellent.

Scoring

Scoring above average for styling, including a bonus for the good lore, and equally well on the engine and car costs and complexity, the only thing holding the car back is its speed. With a time of 2:01,167 it manages 58 points as well, but sits behind the faster Raider.


04 @gridghost Scarab Reflex TAHC

AAT Lap

General

The Swedish Scarab team is sending a hill-climb version of their Scarab Reflex, their entry SUV. Lightweight and with almost 550 horsepower, there might well be some speed needing good driver reflexes in this entry to the GGHC.

Design

Minimalist but with a nice eye for detail and the natural flow of the lines. There is not much more positive or negative to describe regarding the Scarab Reflex. The hill-climb version of this mundane SUV does not make your jaw drop. It is sensible and straightforward. The giant wing however is obviously a plus.

Driving

More loose and with more body roll than expected, the Reflex is nonetheless extremely nippy in terms of changing direction. The brakes have their moments, with the anti-locking brake system seemingly lengthening the stopping distance in some braking zones. The gearbox is long and power-delivery looks to be sub-optimal as a result. This inconsistency, together with a tendency of the suspension to start bouncing the car under high load, is what causes the Reflex issues in getting a smooth run.

Scoring

Technical review did detect a non-regulation seat. This had to be replaced before qualifying and let to a 2 point penalty. This does not leave a lot of points for styling, but technically the car is on top of its game, with maximum scores all over. The speed is impressive as well despite the small issues, helped by the great Scarab driver. A 1:50,096 time results in a very high 76 points.



#133

Open B Preliminary - Part II



05 @HowlerAutomotive Howler Prodigy PPR

ATT Lap

General

With almost 600 horsepower the Prodigy is quite the feat on the engineering side of things. The car is the work of a privateer team Escape Velocity, and is the adaptation of a 2013 Howler Prodigy sedan.

Design

The Howler has some good details, but the general design ranks high on the eye sore scale. The car does not look like a 2013 base model either. All the points it does get here are basically due to the lower rear trim and diffuser, and the well-made side decoration.

Driving

It’s got all of the downforce, and in combination with extremely wide tires, the Howler Prodigy is glued to the road in the corners. Overall, driving is somehow not that enjoyable though, and due to the aero and wide tires even kind of choppy.

Scoring

Mechanically sounds it loses out points on styling. As noted, it is extremely fast, clocking a 1:46,483. The Howler scores an impressive 83 points.


06 @yangx2 Huangdou Shijie 385TA

ATT Lap

General

The Huangdou Shijie 385TA looks to be underpowered with a mere 385 horsepower. Low fuel mixture, low ignition time and high fuel compression are extremely questionable Chinese engineering choices. We heard that the main goal was to avoid turbo lag, but I’m not sure if avoiding turbo boost in itself altogether was the envisioned method here.

Design

Wow, just wow. This Shijie is a beautiful car on its own, but the Huangdou racing team really lived themselves out in creating an eye-catching race car, with a subtle livery. The giant wings and exhausts even have something slightly Asian cartoon or racing game about them.

10/10

Driving

Driving characteristics are in line with the mechanical choices. It does not really fit for a hill-climb car. Instead, the understeer, relatively high body roll and general lack of grip are more reminiscent of a touring car. It would be a dream to see this chassis and engine tuned by a specialist team, and see how the result of that would compare to the higher ranking entries.

Scoring

The Huangdou will rely mostly on styling and technical points here, as the time is predictably slow. 2:03,370 is the slowest time in class, although for example still close to the SW Wagner. Considering all other quotations are quite, the total score is still an impressive 61 points.


07 @Xepy Kuma TD4RS

ATT Lap

General

The Kuma TD4RS is a one ton, inline 5 engined, 500 horsepower hot hatch. The car itself is very much based on the successful rallycross Kuma TD4RS, though the tuning is significantly different.

Design

The base design is quite basic yet stylish, with a characteristic rear in particular. The livery that the Kuma carries, however, is spectacular.

Driving

The Kuma drives really well; sticking in the corners and with responsive turn in. However, the brakes are extremely sensitive, with the difference between under-braking and a lock-up so thin as to make a lap with optimal use of braking zone near impossible when playing it safe.

Scoring

Good score on design and on all things technical lay a very good base. Add to that a very decent time of 1:54,086, and the final score is very competitive: 70 points.


08 @Bf94387 ZZT Gniev BS

ATT Lap

General

The ЗЗТ Гнев ВС is a crazy Russian entry with a rear-mounted naturally aspirated flat-6 engine. That reads as ZZT Gniev VS (or BS). The car is actually a showcase model from 2015. Situation in Russia after the Crimea crisis is clearly affecting the financial means of some Russian constructors apparently.

Design

Gniev stands for anger in Russian, and the styling represents that with the aggressive front overhang and matte black colour. Despite its relative each, the design is futuristic, but as usual that means it is a bit of a personal hit or miss in how far you can call the result pretty.

Driving

It is a brave choice to go for a naturally aspirated engine, and perhaps an error on the organisation’s side to limit its displacement. With only 358 horsepower, the ZZT is slow compared to most competition. The gearbox is odd as well, with extremely short ratios and limited top speed. Taking corners in 5th, 6th or even 7th gear should not be a thing. We’re not even sure a 7th gear should be a thing on hill-climb cars.

Scoring

The design is debatable, and technically the car is a bit all over the place - scoring both very high as well as very low. The total package is also the most expensive of all entries by a lot. The ZZT lacks power, but with other technical choices it might have still gone faster than the 2:02,356 it sets down now. With only 32 points progress looks to be very unlikely.


#134

In the name of fairness, I believe I have several wings stacked under the hood, they are clipped through from the front bumper. I wasn’t aware they would be penalized but they are there, if you remove the hood you can see them, or crash the front end hard in beam and they will spill out.


#135

Bizarre, I didn’t notice. The Howler was the only entry where the car was really pressed against the ground, with the wheels straining to stay attached.


#136

This can also be achieved simply by having a very large wing as opposed to multiple smaller ones. It’s all about the total horizontal area.

Also damn 1:46 is fast. And I really don’t think my van with its super high center of gravity is going to be all that fun to drive haha


#137

Ok, seems to be in favour to remove that penalty then.


#138

To be fair, i do have them too, just 2 wings, but still. To get a good amount of downforce in the front you have to have at least one, but matching the amount of wings front and rear seems to make it more even.

Drive the cars in freeroam mode in the small pure grid map and have the camera looking at the side of the car, and you will notice most of them being pushed to the ground :slight_smile:


#139

The system the Howler uses is still different than that in all other cars, and much more effective.
In any case, penalty removed.


#140

Okay, so how does this work? Can I enter still or what’s the game?

Edit: My bad, just found the small: Deadline 20th June


#141

Open B Preliminary - Part III



09 @machalel Epoch M10 Ansom RSA

ATT Lap

General

The 558 horsepower hill-climb version of the sports compact M10 series from Epoch looks competitive on paper. The M10 has been popular in both on-road racing and off-road rally events. This specific car has been modified as a one-off for hill-climb events.

Design

The Epoch is a weird looking car, with its light fixtures front and back so close together. The undercarriage is impressively prepared for downforce though, and that gives the M10 at least a strong competition look.

Driving

The suspension looks a bit too soft, limiting the high speed corner grip and on occasion making the car a bit unstable. The brakes seem to be not the most efficient either. It is unclear whether or not this is linked to the anti-locking system.

Scoring

Styling points are average, but receive a small bonus for the lore attached to the Epoch brand. For the rest the scores are decent to good. The time is not bad, but fails to compete with the top entries, mostly due to the handling and brakes. A time of 1:56,070 results in a total of 58 points.


10 @EddyBT BT Motors BTR Rubecula GGHC

ATT Lap

General

Somewhat old fashioned entry by BT Motors, who adapted a 1997 BTR Rubecula into a 560 horsepower hill-climb monster. With 560 horsepower for little of 1100 kg, it should be fast.

Design

A bit of a bland 90’s design for the base car, but this is to be expected. But, it had a great livery. And, of course, there is that wing.

Driving

Old styling, but modern handling. The Rubecula turns in swift, and though oversteering when pressed, it is stable overall. The brakes are impressive as well, the perfect balance between strength and smoothness.

Scoring

Technical review did detect a non-regulation seat. This had to be replaced before qualifying and lead to a 2 point penalty. There’s a lot inconsistency technically, with very high engine production cost, and very long engineering time for the car itself. The 1:54,432 lap time might not be enough to cut it. 50 points after the ATT lap.


11 @Kyuu77 KGB Tourer GRU Motorsport

ATT Lap

General

A very loud, relative large, turbo-charged three cylinder, KGB’s brand new 2020 flagship GT, equipped with a specially tuned 1.6L turbo I-3, is claiming to be well-planted with hyper-aggressive wings and strakes to slam this longbody sedan in to the corners.

Design

The design of the KGB Tourer is bold, even if the base car appears to be a bit dated. The rear spoiler is an original design.

Driving

Something in the set-up is making it very difficult to turn the car in at speed. This means that the KGB needs to slow down a lot for the corners. This would not be too bad if only there was not only one thing worse, much worse, than the turn-in. And this are the brakes. They simply don’t work on the level of a race car.

Scoring

Extremely high production and engineering values. With a 1:57,979 time, this is simply not sufficient. Decent styling salvages some points, but not enough. It strands at 36 points.


12 @strop MM Espresso Hillclimb

ATT Lap

General

A modern Japanese-style small multirole city family car is what you could best use to describe the MM Espresso. This hill climb rendition is power by 20 valve 1.6 litre inline-4 producing a massive 608 horsepower.

Design

Design is simply but actually quite appealing, with subtle details. The Espresso is the surprise package, being so small and light, and not that aggressively styled. It even looks a bit cute.

Driving

It’s quick that’s for sure. But that also means there is less time for corrections when you make a wrong decision. And there’s room for wrong decisions: the little Espresso is unexpectedly floaty and lively on its suspension, and the brakes are well-tuned in terms of strength, but they do seem to loose efficiency at high speed relatively early on.

Scoring

Decent styling, perfect technical points, and a blistering fast time of 1:47,239 land the Espresso with 81 points.



#142

Open B Qualifications

The first half (1-6) will continue to the first hill-climb even:

Pos. User Car Total
1 05 HowlerAutomotive Howler Prodigy PPR 83
2 12 strop MM Espresso Hillclimb 81
3 04 gridghost Scarab Reflex TAHC 76
4 07 Xepy Kuma TD4RS 70
5 06 yangx2 Huangdou Shijie 385TA 61
6 02 Nialloftara CPV TA Centauri Raider 58
7 03 electroGG SW Wagner Hillclimb 58
8 09 machalel Epoch M10 Ansom RSA 58
9 10 EddyBT BT Motors BTR Rubecula GGHC 50
10 01 Aaron.W Tanabe Tanaka Aventis GGHC 49
11 11 Kyuu77 KGB Tourer GRU Motorsport 36
12 08 Bf94387 ZZT Gniev BS 32