the front grille looks very awesome, combined with the badge
Absolutely not. Why did you ignore the earlier part of my post, especially the part where I say that I have no idea how to get that high weight? Each detail might add some kilos. And I’ve mentioned some more details in my previous post.
And getting just 20.7% efficiency, that’s why I think something might be improved. And that’s just my guessing, so I’d like to see the graph.
Exactly what I meant, so why did you “disagree” with me?
Thank you all for your comments! I really appreciate that I am getting some quality advice from more experienced car builders as I have much to learn still.
@szafirowy01: I realize that the Foro is quite a bit heavy. I did use a lot of quality points on the interior. I will also look into your advice about the brakes. Finally, I will check on your advice on the exhaust and see where that leads me. I will DM you the last page of the engine tab. Thanks for your advice.
@squidhead: Yeah, I realize that now. I just wanted this to sound like a blurb from a blurb from the manufacturer. Thanks for making me realize that.
@lordvader1: Thank you!
Keep up the good comments/constructive criticism and please keep it clean guys!
SOME, not half a ton. You pointed out brakes and exhaust and at the WORST (I mean… “pig iron fiber” is a material, I guess… ) would add some 10 - 15 kilos. When dealing with half a ton of excess weight, I am guessing you could skip stuff that’s usually considered “final touches” and start chainsawing at that interior which took the bulk of the weight. Let’s face it, the guy is clearly new to this, and going “in depth” with the weight savings is a bit pointless when the basics need to be explained first.
Mhm, yeah, I guess I should have written this:
… in a separate paragraph, with capital letters. Why did you even cling up to me? Instead of pointing the OP what he could improve? You just took some sentences from my post out of context, and started arguing on them. Oh, and laughed at OP’s marketing bit. So helpful. I’m ending this from my side, as it leads nowhere and is un-constructive.
The AL Berlina S
Fun for the whole family
The AL Autos Company present to you The AL Berlina S, our version of a fun sports sedan.
The Berlina (Italian for Sedan), is our version of a car that will please enthusiasts and their families. It’s carbon fiber panels and chassis lighten up the car as much as possible while also providing the safety that families require. In addition to this, it also has AL’s Advanced Safety System (All round airbags, Automatic Tightening Seat Belts, Parking Sensors, Front and Rear Crash Alert System).
AL has also included LED and Xenon Headlights and Taillights and AL’s front and rear airflow grilles to provide cooling air to the heart of this beast…
… a front mounted 5.5 L Twin Turbo V6 cranking out 509 HP which is linked to a 6 speed manual transmission that transfers the power to all 4 wheels through a Longitudinal AWD system propelling this car from 0-62 MPH in 3.5 seconds. Even with all this power, this car still gets an estimated 20.2 MPG.
Prices for this car start at $135,000 and go up to $188,000 depending on equipment levels. If you are interested in test driving/buying this car or have any questions, please stop buy one of our dealerships located world wide!
Another AL Autos car to be revealed soon! Stay tuned and please reply inline with any comments, constructive criticism, or advice! Thanks!
The Berlina doesn’t make any sense to me; the bodywork and chassis are both constructed out of carbon fiber (which is too expensive for a four-door car) and yet it still weighs two tons, thanks to overuse of quality sliders. Moreover, a V6 displacing 5.5 liters is just not very refined. And using an old body for a car whose model year is 2016/17 will incur a massive desirability penalty. Still, the idea is sound, but the execution really needs to be more sensible.
Your intentions seem to be good with this car, but I don’t think it’s quite there yet. Echoing @abg7’s comments in that you don’t need Carbon Fibre on this sort of a car, nor is pushrod necessary. Makes it seem like a factory-made custom sleeper thing (I dunno know though, there’s bound to be a place in the market for such a vehicle )
Styling too feels outdated for 2016, angles and sharp, thin shapes are really in at the moment so you may want to try thinning out those fixtures.
Your cars are definitely getting there though, so please don’t be disheartened by anything I’ve said, take it as suggestions on how to improve.
Disclaimer: I may sound like a child who is showing their parents a simple magic trick, but I am just proud of what was accomplished. Thank you to all those who gave me advice for you helped me create this car. I really appreciate it!
The AL Suono R
Performance innovated
The AL Autos company present to you The AL Suono R.
The Suono (Italian for Sound), is a brand new model created a couple days ago and one that I am very eager to share. For starters I was able to lighten the car as much as possible thanks to the advice of all who commented on my thread. This is now one of the lightest R cars that I have ever created. Of course I’m still working on achieving the perfect balance but, thanks to properly sized carbon ceramic brakes, less abuse of quality sliders, and many other points as well.
The art of aerodynamics are also at work on this car. The maximum amount of air has been diverted to the brakes to provide better braking efficiency, however there is still an adequate amount of air coming into the engine.
The engine is the main highlight of this post as this engine has gotten me the highest HP/L figure I have ever gotten out of an engine (213.542 HP/L). This is all thanks to the advice that was given to me and some tweaks that I made. This car has a 4.8 L Twin Turbo Flatplane V8 pushing out 1025 HP. This engine is connected to a 7 Speed Double Clutch Transmission sending to the power to the rear end of this car through a Electric LSD.
Prices for this car start at $190,000 USD. If you are interested in test driving/buying this car or have any questions, please stop by one of our dealerships located world wide!
Another AL Autos car will be revealed soon! stay tuned and please reply inline with this comment with any comments, constructive criticism, or advice! Thanks!
3700 lbs suggests you still haven’t toned down on the quality.
Should I just leave it at 0 or still try to balance it out more.
In fact it depends on what you want to achieve. If it has to be more of a road legal track car, then it should have 0 (or less, for more extreme thing) quality on the interior and weigh about a 1000 lbs less. If it has to be a mid engined GT, then it should still weigh about 200-400 lbs less, depending on what interior type you want to use (sports is rather for light track toys), unless you go for full comfort, then - only then - that weight is ok. Also bigger engine with less extreme turbos could probably give better results. And if you need to cool carbon ceramic brakes that means something is wrong with them. Number of pistons, size of the rotors, type of the pads?
Announcement
I am terribly sorry for all those who follow this thread. I have completely fogotten that I have this here. (lol)
ANYWAY here is a quick catchup of what I’ve been doing:
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I have massively improved the way I construct a car. These improvements can be seen at the 2017 Antiyita International Motor Show that just happened as of late
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I’ve widened the types of cars AL Autos creates. These were featured at the Antiyita International Motor Show. These range from compact cars to affordable sports cars.
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AL Autos’ luxury brand was introduced at Geneva and improved upon at Antiyita
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I got my first two cars reviewed by the wonderful Gavin Anderson (aka @DeusExMackia) (Thanks for that! I have improved upon what you’ve said and have updated some cars to be revealed soon)
Here are the links to those moments:
AL Autos Rursus and Latissime @ AIMS
AL Autos Irev, Omnia, and Pacto @ AIMS
AL Autos Statuere and Habilis @ AIMS
AL Autos Luxus, Flusso, and Actio @ AIMS
AL Autos Flusso and Actio Reviews
I will be sure to update this more often as I create and update cars!
That’ll be all for now! Thank you all for reading and look forward to more updates and releases in the future!
Design Update: AL Autos Latissime
Hello all! I’ve been busy trying to update the rear tailight designs for my cars when I think I found a simple yet effective solution! Let me know what you think! Example car shown is the AL Autos Latissime!
Making the taillights form a loop? It actually works very well here…
Thanks for letting me know!
I like tha. Maybe try adding a few more fixtures to smooth it out a little more.
Car Updates
Hello all! This post will feature the AL Autos Berlina and the AL Autos Pacto. The first car is one that I have only debuted on this page here. The latter is one that I have revealed at the Antiyita International Motor Show.
Let’s start with the Berlina, my super saloon. I first released the Berlina when I was still new to this game. I tended to go bonkers with everything spamming the quality sliders and adding the best bits onto the car (ie. Carbon Fiber Body Panels). To add on to this, I didn’t really pay much attention to the performance or the designs of my cars. Now that I have gotten some experience, I’ve decided to re-do this car and make it a proper performance saloon car. So, without further a do, here is the redesigned AL Autos Berlina 537 Sv2
The AL Autos Berlina (Trim Shown: 537 Sv2)
First attempt at making a GIF btw.
The Body
Just by looking at it, you could tell that this is gonna be an interesting car. AL went all out to make sure that this car will look apart and still look quite aggressive.
The Performance
AL Autos downsized the engine from the original 5.5 L Twin Turbo V6 to a more sensible 3.6L Twin Turbo V6. Don’t think for a moment that this car has gotten slower just because has a smaller engine though. In fact, the new 3.6 L Twin Turbo V6 produces 537 HP. This is coupled with a 6 Speed Manual Transmission, electric LSD, 265F/275R AL Sports Compound Tires, a complex Longitudinal AWD system, and a Double Wishbone (F)/ MultiLink (R) suspension combo and you’ve got a car that can go from 0-62 MPH in 3.7 seconds, achieve a top speed of 167.2 MPH (269.1 KPH), corner at 1.23g-1.25g, and clock a 1:18.1 on the Top Gear Test Track.
Pricing
Top Range Model (Shown): $87,542
Base Model: $70,020
Onto the second car. Making it’s debut at the Antiyita International Motor Show, the Pacto was designed to be a fun little sports car. However, it’s styling didn’t capture the eyes of the people. For the next model year, we’ve decided to go for a simpler approach to the designs and also revamp the engine. So, without further a do, AL Autos present to you…
The AL Autos Pacto (Trim Shown: 241 Sv2)
The Body
AL Autos kept the shape of the body, but redesigned the light fixtures and grille to go for a more simper yet aggressive kind of look.
The Performance
Going along with the theme of downsizing, AL Autos has put a smaller engine into the new version of the Pacto, a 1.6L I4 Turbo. With this engine, you do get a little less power out of it, 241 HP (Compared with the previous figure of 249 HP), however this does mean that the car is quite a lot lighter. 2357.9 lbs/1069.5 kgs (Compared with the previous figure of 2510.7 lbs/1138.8 kgs). This is coupled with an improved 5 speed manual transmission, Geared LSD, front and rear solid disc brakes, Double Wishbone suspension, and 205F/225R AL Sport Compound Tires. This recipe allows the Pacto to go from 0-62 MPH in 5.5 seconds, achieve a top speed of 155.9 MPH / 250.9 KPH, corner at 1.16g-1.17g, and clock a faster 1:23.1 on the top gear test track (Compared to the older model’s 1:24.3).
Pricing
Top Range Model (Shown): $33,570
Base Model: $22,296
That concludes this AL Autos Presentation! Please let me know what you think!
A Breath of Fresh Air!
Hello all! This post will feature a brand new car!
Here is AL Autos’ entry into the hot hatch market! Let me know what you think!
The AL Autos Novellus 370 RS
The Body
The Novellus was designed to look aggressive to accompany the performance that it has underneath the skin.
The Performance
The engine of the Novellus is a peppy little unit: a 2.5 L Turbo Charged I-4 churning out 370 HP. In addition, AL Autos has added a 6 speed manual transmission, electric LSD, longitudinal AWD (Split 60R/40F), Double Wishbone front and rear suspension, and 255 F and R AL Sport Compound Tires. This combination allows for the Novellus to go from 0-62 MPH in 4.5 seconds, achieve a 164.2 MPH (264.3 KPH) top speed, corner at 1.19g-1.20g, and clock a 1:21.6 on the Top Gear Test Track. All the while, the Novellus still gets an average 22.6 US MPG.
The Technology
AL Autos has added the ALDrivingProfile system to the Novellus. This allows the driver to choose or customize how they want the car to perform: stability control sensitivity, suspension sensitivity, steering sensitivity, throttle/brake sensitivity, etc. There are 3 modes already pre-loaded into the system: normal, sport, and track. If none of these suit the driver’s needs, the driver can customize their own profiles and save it as a custom preset.
Pricing
Top Range Model (Shown): $46,258
Base Model: $40,842
That concludes this AL Autos Presentation! Please let me know what you think!
Every car you have made so far has been powered by an engine with five-valve cylinder heads. Since no manufacturer currently offers this valvetrain in real life, why do you keep using it? 4 valves + VVL seems to offer more flexibility for me.