Automation Detroit Auto Show 2017 [BEST IN SHOW REVEALED]

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Oh. OHHHHHH

the conspiracy makes sense now

To me it looks more like a Lamborghini Countach or even slightly like a Porsche 959 with the wing.
I can’t really see the Ferrari F50 resemblance :confused:

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Man, I love this MRZ-384 design.

And all Assoluto designs too, what a beautiful brand.

What the heck? Wait, show me, who said it looks like an F50? :joy: It literally uses the F40 body and looks nearly identical to it too

River Automotive Stand

The Ceo iscurrently standing on the stage talking to the audience

Welcome to our stand once again dear visitors i hope you managed to get a good seat or hopefully a good viewing point on the stage, today we will be presenting our concept or been rather has been nicknamed speeder concept.
But without further ado, lets us present it to you.

[The lights around the stage were turned off surrounding the stage in darkness, after a few seconds a video was projected on a white screen in the back of the stage, the video appear to have been shot on a track but only seeming show a road surrounded by nature only wind and some wildlife could be heard before a certain noise engine came closer to camera location, a grey car could be spotted in the distant closing in ridiculous speed in a matter of seconds the car passed the camera knocking it to the ground in the progress, after that some quick montage of videos showing the car off different perspectives.]
[In last scene the car came to halt facing the camera it started the rev the audio seemed much louder then before it then suddenly launched in the direction of the camera, just as the camera was about to be hit the screen went black suddenly the car bursts trough the screen leaving a hole behind as it came to full stop on the middle of stage a few spotlights were pointed at the car as the passenger door opened and the lead engineer of the river automotive sport section Mike Seier stepped out of it.]

Hello Detroit Auto Show i’m Mike seier the lead engineer of the speeder concept, i hope you liked our little introduction video of the speeder let us not waste too much time and let me tell you about the car.

Let me tell you first this car wasn’t easy to build we have worked continuously on this car for the past two and half years, the speeder is built up on a full carbon fiber chassis with a mid longitudinal engine setup, the suspension consist of a pushrod in the front and a double wishbone in the rear.

The engine is a 6.6 Liter Twin Turbo charged V12 the block is made of magnesium & the head is made of ALSI it has both vvl+vvtit produces 910hp@7500Rpm and 1205Nm@3500Rpm redline is @7700Rpm.

The power is handled with an awd system in a 27F/73R setup coupled with a 6 gear sequential double clutch Electric LSD differential, the wheels are special sports compound road mixture a 195mm in the front & 235mm in the back with 17"Carbon fiber Rims behind them are 300mm carbon ceramic brakes stopping the car from 100-0 in 28.40m.

In the interior is kept simply and sporty it has two recaro sport seats and no radio to keep the weight down, in the center of dash you find the start and the drive select switch with two different modes the first mode is normal it reduces power to 750hp and 850Nm since the full power is not not needed every time, but once need the power just switch the car to sport and it releases its full potential.


Well i don’t think there much else i can tell you about the car, we don’t know yet if the car goes into production since we are not sure if we should do it on our own or if we should collaborate with another manufacturer. But if you ask me if the car would now go into production, i think we limit it to 150-200 units and it would cost around 250.000$ - 300.00$.

if there is more question about the car or about other models you can ask me, we gladly invite you the visitors onto the stage and take a closer look at the speeder and take a seat in it.

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No, it looks like a 959 with some slight F50 or W8 feel to the design.
Funny thing is the guy who designed the 959 (Marcello Gandini) also designed the F50 and W8, who would’ve thought that? :smirk:

https://www.graypaulclassiccars.com/media/3208/img_3997.jpg

where do you see F50 in either of these?

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He’s joking. He’s just making fun of Oskiinus for stating the blatantly obvious.

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Thats what I guessed at first but when he said it again I started getting doubtful… you can’t tell sarcasm/tone of voice over text, so…

Emoticons and intentional misinformation should’ve sealed it :smile:

That’s kind of disrespectful to say, you just think I’m joking because I like to express myself with emojis? :pensive:

@Speedemon That’s odd, are you sure you’re not playing a prank on me? :confused:

Maybe it’s some kind of Mandela effect? I always remembered the F50 looking like this.

@Microwave In Opera all my search results are blank, there’s only an URL if you open an image (In a new tab) or other site.

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We are getting quite different results…

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Well the URL is “google.se/search” so go figure, kinda obvious what he’s done.

@TheRoadrunner
I think your Google is drunk. :beer:

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##Daily Round-Up - Day 7
Welcome back to Detroit where the first week is over. It’s been one hell of a show so far, and it seems that things may be slowing down a little. Not that that’s a problem, as it means visitors will be able to get a proper look at everything that’s been announced far and give the automotive press some time to relax.

On with the show - time to cover all the action from Day 7!

Today’s musical accompaniment is Symphony No.9 - From The New World, 2nd movement by Antonin Dvorak


EADC defy science with groundbreaking technical showcase
The future of the automobile may very well have been on show today at the EADC stand, where the company’s simply named “Prototype” was revealed. Packed with exceptionally advanced bits of kit including AI, magnetic brakes, something called a HSALT transmission and even a hybrid system, it certainly brought science and the automobile together in quite a way.

Some, however, have asked whether or not this simply a way of squeezing every last bit of innovation from the combustion engine, a technology that has little else to go in terms of development, and whether more time should be spent on searching for its replacement. That said, the innovations made with Graphene tubes could be one step to dealing with the problem of storing hydrogen for HCVs, one journalist poitned out.

Cavallera display gorgeous retromod
“The Tehuano: Reborn” read the placard next to the pale orange 60s supercar that was on display at the Cavallera display today. Almost entirely reworked from the ground up, this gorgeous classic has been brought into the modern age in an incredibly tasteful way. 1000 of these things will be made, meaning there’s actually a slight chance you’ll be able to experience some 60s supercar performance in a far safer manor than they could ever manage back in this car’s day.

Minivan’s are the topic of Storm’s announcements today
Showing off two variants of its updated Serenity minivan, Storm today brought hybrid technology to the minivan for the first time. Their super secret solar-panel-glass technology has been incorporated into here too, making this one of the most advanced minivans ever. The two versions, the Standard and Courier, should certainly meet the needs of big families and small businesses, and the fact that they’ve incorporated such advanced kit (and even a sequential transmission) will certainly define this 3rd generation of the vehicle. Storm certainly seem to be injecting some interesting-ness into the more boring parts of the car market at the moment.

DSD and Maesima join forces for special version of MRZ-3
We love a special edition sports car here at S.A.M., and this looks to be no exception. Now packing a 5.5l V8, this car seems to have turned from a tasteful roadster into a mini muscle car, but perhaps thats a good thing. There’s not doubt it’ll be a lot of fun in a straight line, and the styling additions made to the car look excellent. No prices have been released yet.

Assoluto make us feel like we’re 12 years old all over again, again
The gorgeous original 1980s Crinale was on display today, a stunning example owned by an “aficionado” of the company. It’s still an astounding thing to behold, and we’re told it still just as terrifying to drive. Thank the lord for hypercars!

Canada launch new Toronto luxury brand
Canada launched their new Toronto luxury line today, replacing the company’s luxury sedan of the same name. Two cars, the 519 and 905, were on display, both featuring stylish and tasteful design and grand, sweeping lines. Specs are limited as of now, with a release of both cars later this year. They’re expected to go on sale in Winter of this year, which should make for a great Christmas present.

River reveal the Speeder concept
It’s been teased and rumored for quite some time now, but at last the new Speeder Concept broke the surface today. the carbon fibre car is exceptionally fast, bringing the Automation world ever closer to the 2.0 second 0-60 time. It’ll keep pace with a Le Mans car on the track despite weighing 500 kg more and lacking the massive aero-work those cars have. Packing a 6.6l bi turbo V12 and an AWD system, it seems to be a lightning quick machine. Just one question: when do we get to drive it?


That does it for today’s releases, but we did get some time for an interview with Andrew Westcott, the new head of the Toronto brand.


And with that, Day 7 is done. It’s been a heck of a week, time to see if I can get any further info leaks from company executives who happen to be out clubbing in the city tonight.

-Gavin Anderson

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EADC engineers would like to respond with a rebuttal to this argument.

Yes the time of combustion engines are coming to a close sadly, however, we at EADC feel that other technologies are not yet ready for use. It should be noted however, that we are also working on alternative power sources, such as using Electric Motors and Hydrogen Fuel Cells, but those developments are far from perfect.

##Electric Cars
Yes, electric cars are becoming more and more popular, however, as a form of propulsion, they are currently very limited, in not only range but also in eco friendliness. You see the current problem with electric cars are that not only do we currently lack the infrastructure to be effective. In addition, electric cars are currently no more eco-friendly than the combustion engine. The energy which powers electric cars come from the electric grid, which is powered by mostly gas power plants and even coal power plants, which are even more polluting than the combustion engine.

##Hydrogen Fuel Cells
Now of course, a solution to this problem would be to use hydrogen fuel cells to power a car, however, again the infrastructure is simply not there yet. In addition, storing hydrogen is more difficult than storing petrol. This is due to hydrogen, being so reactive. Moreover, hydrogen requires a large tank to store a relatively small volume, this is due to the high pressures required to store hydrogen. Storing hydrogen in between the layers graphene of course is a viable option, however, the volume that can be stored this way is also severely limited.

Thus with this argument, I hope you understand why we at EADC are focusing on improving the efficiency and effectiveness of the combustion engine for the short term.

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Official Response from Splendid Auto Monthly
Thank you for the informative response. It’s always illuminating to get an insight into the decisions a company makes when it comes to car design, especially on such a topic as this. In response, we ask whether EADC see the Prototype as a sort of stepping stone vehicle from combustion to electricity, hydrogen or somethin else entirely?


OOC, on a real note, what @Dorifto_Dorito said perfectly sums up the issue we currently have with powering our cars. I did a project on this exact topic and argued about almost all the points you made. I’d love to hear what other car makers here, especially the ones releasing Hybrids at this show, make of this topic. It’d certainly make for some excellent journalism :wink:

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In response to your question, we at EADC see the Prototype as a test bed for all our current tech. In the future, we are planning to convert it to hydrogen fuel cells, but we are also attempting to find other alternatives. For example, in the chemical industry, lots of waste by products are being produced. Some of these waste material can react with water or other substances to generate heat to run a Stirling engine without producing any harmful waste gases/chemicals.

Animated Engines - Single Cylinder Stirling
This website is great for finding out how engines work, from jets to steam to diesel.

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JHW will be showcasing the full lineup tomorrow with a suprisereveal at the end

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