Air/Fuel rate

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Hey guys. I just have my weekend doze of Automation. Great time, nice game.

I’m an engines freak. I wished for a game like this for years. Just with the Dyno 2003 (simple engine simulator) I lost entire days… Until I discovered Engine Analyzer… My god, the entire built up process for my D16 Honda engine was looking that damn images:

And now, you guys appear from nowhere, with a more powerful and scalable software. I’m impressed.

The perfect feature for mi will be a merge between Engine Analyzer and your software.

Now back on topic. I just want to test the DCOE carburetors with different venturies and gliceurs (jets). I feel some kind dumb just to change numbers in “air fuel ratio”. You guys know that the thing is more complex than that, and power curves are just a compromise between principal and secondary venturies sizes vs jets. Also, the end diameter of the carburetor should be changeable. Also on injection engines, a nice map just like this:

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/7812/cromeavancekp9.jpg

Just started with this, then I’ll surely bother you with other threads later on such as: different head porting (CFM, diameter and shape involved), valves diameters shapes and weight, pistons rings heights… etc, etc, etc.

And the last thing, cams profiles.

When you guys can approach all this crazy things, I’ll give you my blood. :smiley:

If you need anything just let me know. Have a lot of crazy sheets for DCOE’s, IDF’s and such.

Ivan.

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I will just leave this here:

[quote=“Daffyflyer”]Argh, people just won’t let this one go will they. We tried to make it work well, but it just ended up being annoying, no fun to use, and producing odd results sometimes.

If you want to play with every detail of engine design with absolute realism, have a look at something like -http://www.proracingsim.com/desktopdyno.htm[/quote]

Hopefully you will get the point…

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I know that software (I prefer Engine Analyzer) and understand that Automation IS a game. I just suggested to add some extra difficulty on the game.

Ivan

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Oh there is indeed a load more to it, but simulating a complete fuel map would be quite difficult to do, and quite difficult to make fun (trust me, I spent almost an entire day last week working on the fuel map on my MX5 ecu, it wasn’t fun :stuck_out_tongue:)

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It’s possible. When you guys have finished the game, completely funny and stuff… You’ll start thinking about the simulator, complete simulator.

I can wait. :smiley:

Ivan.

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Hmm no, Ivan, I think that’s a common misconception about Automation :slight_smile:
Automation is not a simulation but a parameterization. To add stuff like that to a parameterization is a metric crapton of work, while it would be rather easy to do if you have a simulation. I think very few people get the difference between the two… I hope you are one of them :slight_smile: Cheers!