AMWEC '15 [Finished]

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[size=150]Automation Motorsport World Endurance Championship 2015[/size]

Hello and welcome to the AMWEC 2015. This series focuses on endurance races (from 6 to 24 hours) around the world (10 races) on 3 different categories (it’s largely based on the FIA world endurance championship), 1 for modified production cars* and 2 for cars expressly made for racing. All the caculations (tyres, fuel, brake replacement, accidents, times, etc) are done in a special spreedsheet according to some car values. The link for the spreadsheet and the explanations of the calculations are below.

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(You can still see all the poster for every event here viewtopic.php?f=13&t=6269&start=15#p98227 )

[size=150]Rules and regulations[/size]

Automation Gran Touring Endurance Cars
[ul]> An AGTE is a production car tuned for racing, following the next set of rules and regulations: drive.google.com/file/d/0BySQs- … sp=sharing[/ul]

Automation Prototype 1 cars
[ul]> An AP1 is a car expressly made for racing, and it is not based on a production car. It must follow the next regulations: drive.google.com/file/d/0BySQs- … sp=sharing [/ul]

Automation Prototype 2 cars
[ul]> An AP2 is a race car (cheaper than the AP1 class) and it can have an engine from a production car if you desire. It must follow the next set of regulations: drive.google.com/file/d/0BySQs- … sp=sharing [/ul]

Remember, a more drivable car is less likely to have accidents, and the more reliable the car is, it’s less likely to need repairs after those accidents.

[size=150]Tracks and scoring[/size]

There are a total of 10 races and 1 week between each race. In the time between races I will do posters, edit images of the contestants, and other nice stuff. After every round, I will publish the results, and the spreadsheet for each car, so you could check how it went (to avoid future issues with future updates of the game, I will run all the calculations for every race the firts week).

[size=150]Schedule:[/size]
[ul]]December 06 - 24 hrs of Spa-Francorchamps → See results viewtopic.php?f=39&t=8291&start=220#p89600
See full review → viewtopic.php?f=39&t=8291&start=230#p89633/:m]
]December 13 - 06 hrs of São Paulo (Autódromo José Carlos Pace)–> See results here viewtopic.php?f=39&t=8291&start=290#p90254
See small review here → viewtopic.php?f=39&t=8291&start=300#p90303/:m]
]December 20 - 06 hrs of Circuit of the Americas → See results here viewtopic.php?f=39&t=8291&p=91173#p91173
See full review → viewtopic.php?f=39&t=8291&start=350#p91311/:m]
]December 27 - 12 hrs of Sebring → See results viewtopic.php?f=39&t=8291&start=380#p91935
See full review → viewtopic.php?f=39&t=8291&start=400#p92427/:m]
]January 03 - 06 hrs of Mebourne (Albert Park) → see results here viewtopic.php?f=39&t=8291&p=93017#p93017
See full review → viewtopic.php?f=39&t=8967#p92773/:m]
]January 17 - 06 hrs of Fuji → See results here viewtopic.php?f=39&t=8291&start=440#p94484
see results by class–> viewtopic.php?f=39&t=8291&start=440#p94539/:m]
]January 24 - 06 hrs of Shangai → See results here viewtopic.php?f=39&t=8291&start=465#p95411
See results by class–> viewtopic.php?f=39&t=8291&start=465#p95424/:m]
]January 31 - 12 hrs of Nürburgring (GP-Strecke) → See results here viewtopic.php?f=39&t=8291&start=510#p96728
see results by classes–> viewtopic.php?f=39&t=8291&start=525#p96820/:m]
]February 07 - 06 hrs of Silverstone – see results here viewtopic.php?f=39&t=8291&start=540#p97751
see results by classes–> viewtopic.php?f=39&t=8291&start=540#p97762/:m]
]February 13-14 - 24 hrs of Le Mans – see results here viewtopic.php?f=39&t=8291&start=570#p98616
See results by class here → viewtopic.php?f=39&t=8291&start=570#p98619/:m][/ul]

Each car will recive a certain amounts of points depending in what place they come overall and relative to the class it’s competing.
(More laps and minor time will be first, and less laps and major time will be last).

Five titles are awarded:
[ul]Manufacturer’s World Endurance Champion – Player with more points, summing all its cars.
World Endurance champion car – Player with the car with more points (overall).
Gran Touring world cup – Player with the AGTE class car with more points.
Endurance Prototype world cup – Player with the AP1 class car with more points.
Endurance Prototype world trophy – Player with the AP2 class car with more points.
[/ul]

[size=150]FINAL SCORE[/size]

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[size=150]Accepted entries![/size]
AP1 >>> viewtopic.php?f=39&t=8291&start=190#p89390
AP2 >>> viewtopic.php?f=39&t=8291&start=280#p90063
AGTE >>> viewtopic.php?f=39&t=8291&start=330#p91025

[size=150]ENTRIES CLOSED[/size]

[size=150]How things are calculated[/size]

Here’s the spreadsheet with an example and a blank spreadhseet, so you could check the formulas I used: Automation ENDURANCE.zip (77.6 KB)
Note: [size=85]You must use Excel or other software that allows you to use iterative calculation. If you’re going to use excel, go to >office logo >Excel options >formulas >enable iterative calculation >maximum iterations: 1.[/size]

Here you can check an in-depth of the calculations: drive.google.com/file/d/0BySQs- … sp=sharing

Download link for the tracks: mega.nz/#!YR523aaZ!s_GYh4N9nl2D … UraR8Tn2EM
Disclaimer: I didn’t made these tracks (except Fuji and Sebring), I just doubled the distance of the track and modified the second sector, only for this specific tournament. All the credit goes to their makers, more info in the folders.

That’s all (I know, it’s a really long post!). Sorry for the typos and misspells :blush:
Please comment and share your thoughts!

[size=50]UPDATE LOG:
[ul]- Added a poll and change the regulations to allow VVT and DI in all classes.

  • Closed poll, change to one trim for all races. Modify naming conventions and specify years in the regulations
  • Entries open, added one race and update tyres quality regulations
  • Added schedule, VMOs mods now are allowed
  • Added new version of the spreadsheet.
  • Added total cost to the OP
  • Regulations now include both metric and imperial units
  • Added download link with all the tracks
  • ENTRIES NOW CLOSED
  • Updated spreadsheet
  • Overall Score published[/ul][/size]
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Comments:

For RP Purposes, my company LHE would have shifted to using Direct Injection as standard equipment by 2014, and VVT is also standard equipment on all post 2004 engines.

For having a production car class, I would say limiting DI, and VVT seams silly, as VVT is WIDELY used, and while DI helps greatly with knock limit, is expensive.

Not to mention DI is common place by 2015 IRL.

Those are my only nit picks.

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While DI and VV tech are common place in road cars, you will find the Le Mans rules explicitly prohibit them on the GTE models.

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I can see this being a competition that doesnt get finished.

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i kinda agree… a bit too advanced and complex, and will take a lot of time from the OP.

or if it does goes at least halfway. i can see some problems due to game updates because the competition will be dragged on a bit too long

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I’m like yay for this.

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[quote=“Lordred”]Comments:

For having a production car class, I would say limiting DI, and VVT seams silly, as VVT is WIDELY used, and while DI helps greatly with knock limit, is expensive.[/quote]

I understand what you mean there. I will change the rules as soon as I get home to allow DI and VVT for all classes. The power to weight ratio and the cost are already limited, so a contester will have to choice between those technologies or to put more quality in other area, like the drivetrain.

I’m not going to lie, things happen and there’s the possibility the competition won’t be finish.
However, I put a lot of time into the spreadsheet and the rules, I will try my best to get it finished.

About the time, actually running the calculations in the spreadsheet take me like 5 minutes or so, so it will only take me a couple of hours peer round. And I have the time.

A solution to avoid the future updates issue will be to use only 1 trim peer car, and I can run the calculations for all the rounds in one weekend and release the results of one round every week. Or, send me all the trims for each round at once.

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I just noticed this. A lot of work has already been done by compiling all the separate class rules on separate pdfs. Also, the formulae appear to have been published in full, which is something I like to see.

I actually agree with Riso in that if emulating the real world rules, DI is not allowed in GTE cars. Of course, liberties can be taken in this game.

And the best part is that I already built a GTE car when thinking about how to build one, so I’ve got a car that mostly conforms to the regulations of the GTE class! Oh, wait, it was in the previous version, now it’s gone… d’oh.

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So there are Street Cars, but is there any incentive to make them good? Like, I could easily make an expensive and useless road car for the sake of making a fast race car, because they have to share the same trim.

On that note, will there be street car rewards?

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I would say there’s no incentive in real life either :stuck_out_tongue: homologation rules are just like that. Consider the MC-12 or the CLK-GTR :stuck_out_tongue:

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just coming in real quick, for free software to use with that spreadsheet if you don’t have office or anything fancy, google docs works quite well

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I’m afraid there will not be street car rewards, just like strop said. Besides, that will be an entirely new contest, and it won’t be fair because only the AGTE makers can participate.

How did you do it? I tried to use google docs, but I’m getting this error:

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Also, I’m posting a poll, to see what do you prefer (thinking in avoiding the next update re-balancing issue), to make one trim for all races, a trim for each race and send them all at the same time, or a trim for each race sending one by one prior every race.
Edit: The poll will close next saturday, and the day after I will post the results and final ruling on trims, the schedule of the events, and I will start taking entries and publish the deadline.

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[quote=“strop”]I just noticed this. A lot of work has already been done by compiling all the separate class rules on separate pdfs. Also, the formulae appear to have been published in full, which is something I like to see.
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maybe i’m just being too pessimistic… sorry.

anyway… we dont have to participate in all 3 classes if we wanted to participate, right? like, i’m really only interested in 2 of the 3 classes

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How did you do it? I tried to use google docs, but I’m getting this error:
http://i.imgur.com/7VzBPJF.png/quote]
i just added the file to my google drive and selected to open with google spreadsheets (i think it was at least)
EDIT! proof it’s working http://i.imgur.com/Rgv3lKY.png

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That is correct, you can participate in one, two or even three classes.

[quote=“cpufreak101”]
i just added the file to my google drive and selected to open with google spreadsheets (i think it was at least)
EDIT! proof it’s working [/quote]

Actually, you should be seeing this:

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Notice that there’s no #REF! inside the cells.
That’s because you should use a program that can handle circular or iterative calculations, which I use across the entire spreadsheet. A iterative calculation is when a formula refers to the cell that contains the formula itself. Example: You need a new random value in A1 when B2 says “true”. If B2 is change to any other value, A1 will lock the last random value. The formula will go like this: =if(B2="true",randbetween(1,20),A1)

Also, enlapsed time says 0:03:24, but it actually is 24:03:24, excel can’t display beyond 24 hours.

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but i wont be able to get the first 2 titles am i?

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[quote=“koolkei”]

but i wont be able to get the first 2 titles am i?[/quote]

Of course you will. Let’s suppose your cars end up in the top 2 places overall (an AGTE and an AP1). That means you will be winning the next titles:
[ul]Manufacturer’s World Endurance Champion
World Endurance champion car
Gran Touring world cup
Endurance Prototype world cup[/ul]

You’ll win the manufacturer title unless someone get more points than you (probably using 3 cars and ending in good position). I thought of using the average points (every car’s points divided by the number of cars) but that will be unfair, because if someone enters with only one car and wins the world title, that someone will automatically win the manufacturer title as well, even if others made 3 good and well rounded cars.

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[quote=“Sillyworld”]

Of course you will. Let’s suppose your cars end up in the top 2 places overall (an AGTE and an AP1). That means you will be winning the next titles:
[ul]Manufacturer’s World Endurance Champion
World Endurance champion car
Gran Touring world cup
Endurance Prototype world cup[/ul]

You’ll win the manufacturer title unless someone get more points than you (probably using 3 cars and ending in good position). I thought of using the average points (every car’s points divided by the number of cars) but that will be unfair, because if someone enters with only one car and wins the world title, that someone will automatically win the manufacturer title as well, even if others made 3 good and well rounded cars.[/quote]

in another word
i can. but i just have to finish in relatively higher position in the 2 races…
kay. got it.

anyway.

i dont see much more rules to discuss. when will the entries be opened?

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[quote=“koolkei”]
i dont see much more rules to discuss. when will the entries be opened?[/quote]

I’m still fine balancing what will be the final spreadsheet, and also I will update the OP to change the naming conventions a little bit and to change the “one trim for each race” rule for “one trim for all races”. So I think next sunday the entries will be opened :smiley:

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Is there a year limit on the engine’s for the production model and race model of the AGTE class?