[quote=“victorgarcia”]
allright!
which track are you planning to?[/quote]
Pre-season tests will always be done on the Automation Test Track.
good, I am hoping to have one put together by the end of the weekend.
where are you getting this body?
OK, naming conventions…
I know this makes it easy for everybody running contests, but…using the same exact naming convention for multiple events doesn’t work very well. Could it be changed to like…1955BRC-username-engines-familes? Otherwise we are all overwriting files for events which may still be active, since people are asking for the same thing in their events. Just a thought…I think I just overwrote something (probably the 1945 BRC), but…if I did I’ll never know now. I didn’t think about it until I was done naming it. 
Also, why is everybody using the same body??? So many complained about the 1945 due to lack of creativity for the 2 bodies available, and now there are many and still only one choice. hahaha Just an observation. (No, I am NOT using that mini body for MY car)
[quote=“07CobaltGirl”]OK, naming conventions…
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Der Bayer is probably using multiple folders to keep his personal cars, and the cars from his various contests separate. It’s what I do when I run one of my contests. All of my personal creations go in an archive folder while I take in and analyze entries. When it’s all done, I wipe the files out of the respective folders and restore my archives (if I so choose).
He has chosen the naming convention, as is his right as the person who’s run the contest. I can see your point as well, especially since some others use a naming convention more similar to what you suggested. I prefer to use the one more similar to his when I run my contests.
It is what it is.
[quote=“VicVictory”]
automationgame.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=5508 … the 60’s mini roadster[/quote]
thanks vicvictory!!
[quote=“07CobaltGirl”]OK, naming conventions…
I know this makes it easy for everybody running contests, but…using the same exact naming convention for multiple events doesn’t work very well. Could it be changed to like…1955BRC-username-engines-familes? Otherwise we are all overwriting files for events which may still be active, since people are asking for the same thing in their events. Just a thought…I think I just overwrote something (probably the 1945 BRC), but…if I did I’ll never know now. I didn’t think about it until I was done naming it.
Also, why is everybody using the same body??? So many complained about the 1945 due to lack of creativity for the 2 bodies available, and now there are many and still only one choice. hahaha Just an observation. (No, I am NOT using that mini body for MY car)[/quote]
With a max total cost of 8,000 $, and points for low fuel consumption, it makes more sense to choose a smaller car.
[quote=“VicVictory”]
[quote=“07CobaltGirl”]OK, naming conventions…
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Der Bayer is probably using multiple folders to keep his personal cars, and the cars from his various contests separate. It’s what I do when I run one of my contests. All of my personal creations go in an archive folder while I take in and analyze entries. When it’s all done, I wipe the files out of the respective folders and restore my archives (if I so choose).
He has chosen the naming convention, as is his right as the person who’s run the contest. I can see your point as well, especially since some others use a naming convention more similar to what you suggested. I prefer to use the one more similar to his when I run my contests.
It is what it is.[/quote]
But the naming convention similarity IS still a problem and people who run these competitions need to be aware that multiple competitions with the EXACT same naming convention will force players to choose who they want to support. Der Bayer doesn’t need to change his naming convention but, for the health of the challenge community participation and variety, competition hosts would be wise to determine a naming convention that doesn’t clash with other competitions.
Since the new build this naming convention problem has become the discussion we need to have as people are getting excluded over technicalities. Nothing wrong with asking for a re-submission over an incorrect name (and excluding someone who doesn’t comply with the name change request) but challenge hosts need to be crystal clear over what is allowable and what isn’t so that people don’t make mistakes in the first place. It’s all well and good to declare that “it’s the host’s right” but a host also has responsibilities; clear rules, clear aims, a thick skin and a soft heart.
I wan’t the post-steam challenges to run like the pre-steam challenges. The challenges those days were generally light-hearted and fun with tolerance shown for error and non-compliance was shown the door. Now all the challenge pages are littered with severe consequences for minor infractions and a penchant to ridicule mistakes rather than discretely deal with problems through the PM system. These challenges are meant to be FUN but too many of them feel like a chore…
tl;dr - Please come up with a universal naming convention that differentiates between competitions AND keeps things easy for the host! 
example from this competition; 55BRC-username-car-model
This instantly solves the similarity problem without any more work on the hosts part!
Thing is, it is because of people like yourself, who hasn’t complied with the soft-rules on several occasions, thus requiring further effort from the people who organize the events, that now, we make the rules stricter. Therefore, we save ourselves a great deal of work and bother, because, you know, running and checking and verifying 30+ is not a fun task, at all. If things are badly made and people make errors, it is even worse.
About the naming, if Martin decided that was easy enough for him, good. Let us all use it.
I don’t think anyone has been excluding people over naming post-steam. Most of the time people just get warned and are asked to resubmit their cars.
And while the naming convention used by Der Bayer has the issue of being the same for all his competitions, I don’t personally think that it is particularly complicated to get right.
And I don’t really see much of a difference in light heartedness and leniency between pre-steam and post-steam.
[quote=“Felgen”]
With a max total cost of 8,000 $, and points for low fuel consumption, it makes more sense to choose a smaller car.[/quote]
I think the main problem is, once again the very mediocre tires and brakes.
So to make the most out of them you need a light car and not too much power, to not overload them.
@Leonardo9613: I understand your point, but I don’t think it is productive to make it personal. The current four-folder system makes sharing cars a pain for everyone, and that’s just something we have to deal with until the devs can bodge together an “Import/Export” feature for us. Until that day comes, using filename conventions makes it a lot - a lot - easier to run a tournament, and given how much work goes into running a tournament, I think that’s a worthy thing.
That said I think HighOctaneLove and 07CobaltGirl have good suggestions - suggestions I would bear in mind if I ran a tournament. In Der Bayer’s case, given that he’s running his tournament through a separate program, I imagine changing filename conventions is a lot more difficult than it would be for most of us.
But if we do this then each competition entrant will overwrite the previous entrant. How do you keep seperate 2 or 3 competition entrants at the same time?
If the competition name is identified as part of the naming convention then the problem goes away and if the competition guideline sticky has a universal, community endorsed, form then it will be a simple matter of newcomers (such as I was) learning one format then the naming convention problem will simply go away.
Then when people who need to use a specific format, such as Der Bayer, can do so knowing that having unique naming conventions is the exception, not the rule.
Ignoring the problem won’t make it go away; my vote goes for the simple addition of a unique competition code to the start of the filename (as before, add 55BRC- on the front of Der Bayers filename convention) so that we can keep our competition cars after the competition has ended!
Good points, I updated the naming convention.
Would you like those of us who have already submitted under the old system to re-submit?
No, that’s actually more complicated than renaming the files myself. 
, no worries then, thanks again Der Bayer for running this sweet competition! 
THANKS!! It was getting rather confusing trying to find my cars when Automation is only showing the first part of the car name, I had tons of cars that all I saw was “BlastersPewPew-Cars-Mo…” when I would go to revise them. Here is hoping for an Import/Export button as well.