This is a car based on the same body.
I have also experimented with the smaller version of this body, that was the turbo car I ran for the last two races.
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Whenever Iām working on the NA I keep thinking ābut the turbo is SO MUCH FASTERāā¦
And whenever I go and tinker with the turbo, I get the nagging feeling that it uses too much fuel so the NA will end up being superior.
Iām sort of leaning towards the NA, just because Iāve spent more time on it and itās the sane option. I guess tomorrowās test will show whether Iāve made it better or worse.
Itās quite late to think about thisā¦ but how many of the planned tracks are available in the sharing forum and how many are brand new and unpublished? I downloaded a community track pack at some point but I seem to be missing most of the season.
Same story! That and a minor problem of my turbo being quite difficult to driveā¦
Im using turbo and am good enough on fuel to do a 1 stop on most tracks. (although I am using 14.6 AFR and only 13 or so psi of boost)
Also @findRED19 I found FR simply doesnt work for this season unless youre taking the lightweight approach since wheelspin becomes a big issue with 400+hp. If I couldve made it work I wouldve rather gone with a FR design as im considerably better at the suspension setup but with so much wheelspin it simply didnt work as well. Iām using the not porsche for my car which I believe can do wheelies with how bad the weight distribution is (only about 700lbs on the front and it can do 0-60 in under 5 seconds if i remember correctly)
Well, if FR is not very good this seasonā¦ RPG will not do so well, but I still wish to participate, so Iāll see what I can make.
My FR car has the 11th best time overall. At the cost of massive tire wear and massive fuel consumption.
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@findRED19 I think that body is ok, the main consideration with body (apart from preference) is the aero I feel. Which that particular body is, well, meh. So itāll cost you some top speed. But, itās no exactly horrible either. As long as you donāt aim to win Hockenheim it should be fine.
I think FR is fine, depends on what you are trying to do, my car in the last test was FR NA so I think itās at least quite workable. However, yes, with a powerful Turbo I think youād lose a lot of that potential to wheelspin. But it depends on how powerful you are talking anyway. Also drivability is vital, which is a major hurdle with a powerful Turbo.
Aero and how big of an engine will fit ā¦ 2nd of which limits me. Does anyone run on a big block V8 or a big V12?
Also, i think top speed wonāt be an issue (unless youāre going full lightweight) but more so how long it takes you to get there. The only track where top speed is relevant is Spa (310+ km/h with a 470hp car); at Hockenheim I get to about 270km/h. But going for the Spa-gearing loses out on all other tracks.
@Der_Bayer ,
Another thing Iāve noticed just now, in game Iām doing slightly above 260 on the āDaffy Flyerā, in the test the highest I could spot was 247 (despite the flying lap time being faster). Any idea where that does come from?
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my best car so far is a steel ladder chassis engine with a v12 on board making 420HP+
your argument is invalid 
no, but really though, the next car i built was an MR that had lower time on ATT, but resulted in more than a second slower in the test.
also, i donāt use turbo simply because i dunno how to tune them at this era.
āoh, 2:13, i think i could get a little bit more out of the engine.ā
BOOM 15+ HP, performance index went up
but also
BOOM 2:14.
FFS, iām not gonna tinker with them to keep me from going nuts.
later on though, it might be a bit easier and more rewarding, but not this season for me.
I personally donāt like turboās, so as a game mechanic I havenāt used them until now. I canāt get them to work as well as NA engines, so I am just going to leave them be for now. And while RR sounds like a good idea for 400+ monsters, I have been using the same 3130cc Flatplane V8 in two different cars and no matter what I do, I canāt get the performance I want from RR due to the weight balance.
Yes, I agree. I think unless you need the grip, FR is likely the, I wonāt say better, but itās the easier choice to get performance from.
Next test Iām trying a Turbo MR, just to see how it works out.
From what you are saying I think I need to update my Spa track, mine is weird.
This is the one Iām using, easily getting to 310 at the masta straight. Hockenheim is more like 275-278 rather than 270, for a more exact comparison.
Just to let you know: I am always using tracks built by myself to be sure that they perform good in the simulation. And I need to and the pit information anyway. I took the Spa track as an inspiration and rebuilt it similar to the original version. So just that you donāt complain if your times donāt match 100 percent. It should still be close enough.
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Well, 15 km/h top speed is a lot if you want to optimize your gearing. Would be nice to know if that is to be expected on all tracks or itās just the ATT.
What if you load your car in the game with extra interior to represent the fuel weight? How does that affect your top speed?
Still doing 260. See the PM.
I donāt mind the ATT not being that exact, but if thatās a bug occuring on all tracks, it would suck sacrificing time on the slow tracks to get a higher top speed, and then not reaching that speed at all.
Missed this announcement because of holiday.
Luckily I still have a few days to build a car, but for sure iāll miss a lot of the information and experience from the testraces.
OK, did the rough estimates again from last test and ended up with these results.
Full calculation
Sorted after position@40 laps with pits
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Nice! If that will be still true in seasonā¦
What is X column with xx and o?
Iām running with a big block, 5.7l V8. Iāve basically built a muscle car (totally not in keeping with my companyās theme 
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Like @GroundHOG2010 I havenāt been able to have much success with turboās, as Iām used to working with NA. But, donāt know about anyone else, but I am planning to go turbo MR in BRC 1986/7 (and yes, I am already planning for that).
But, while the economy of my car is its weakness, Iāve got a big fuel tank to deal with it, and Iāve dealt with wheelspin well.
And hell yes, feeling much more confident having looked at @Puffsterās sheet 