BRC 1976 - Under Pressure [E8-Q]

I just checked my PM-Box… i got a couple of Messages regarding the backstory thing.
Please keep it down to maximum of a single A4/letter page. And consider just sending me plain text and not pictures :slight_smile: I have to put it into a document which can be printed out by us commentators

About the Rain/Weather thing: I think the proposed change to the pitstop system by @HowlerAutomotive could ease up the rain thing. “Main” Problem is that in real racing the pit manager just screams out “PIT NOW BECAUSE RAINTYRES” and since they also have a rain forecast they know what to do usually.
The graph from Howler shows what would happen in a normal race - 6 pitstops due to tyre change and planned stops. Those unplanned pitstops because of threshold fluctuation were a bit frustating in 66 and you could sense people chanting that the humidity stays above the threshold when they approach the pits. Having a pit “window” would slightly change that dynamic.

Otherwise i think the rain can balance out the super-mega power cars with the slow NA boxes.

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Also I’d like to add that the pit stops shouldn’t be scheduled as % of race but as a specific lap to come in.

On a side note, do we have a date for the first race? No pressure, just asking :wink:

No. The % makes it compatible for races with varying lap numbers and for time based race length. Much more flexible and if you don’t want to adjust the strategy for each race you can just leave it as it is.

No date for the first race yet, no.

Is the percentage based on distance or time?

I’m going to hypothesize distance because we don’t know how long each race will wind up taking while there is a set distance.

It is based on distance this season because we are doing ~200 km races. Last season it was time based because we had 90 minute races.

Just? I honestly thought your car would be much quicker than that, unless you’re talking about standing starts, in which case I’m fucked :slight_smile:

If it was that simple, races wouldn’t need to happen. Mercedes would win every single time in f1, because they clearly have the best car, maybe the car with the fastest qualifying times wouldn’t win, but certainly the one with best race pace would. And knowing that from the start is boring, as proven by the example I just gave.

Newsflash. Mercedes does win every single race, except 1 or 2 per season.

That might be easy for you to program but it’s more work for everyone else but whatever.

The interesting question here is how does the bot round the % you set to for the pit lap?
Is it going to always round fractions with 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 down and 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 always up?

For example, when you set to pit at 34% and it equals lap 25.5.
Does the car now come into the pits in lap 25 or 26?

Different track, pit at 33%. Lap 29.04. It comes in at 29?
Yet another track, pit at 33%. Lap 13.81. Pit in lap 14?

Exactly, and that makes formula 1 super boring. Adding some randomness can only be good, like when they crash out, or there is rain involved. That is why a certain degree of randomness is good here. Thank you for agreeing with me :wink:

I clearly didn’t.
I don’t watch BRC races anymore. What does that tell you?
Maybe lottery is not appealing to everyone?
Otherwise we could all start with the same car, and let randomness do the rest … lol

It doesn’t round, it waits until the percentage is passed. It then comes in. So if you want to say it rounds: it always rounds up.

Make a fast car, that’s easy to drive, performs good in wet, has low tyre wear, don’t use the strategy tool like a coloring book and gods won’t punish you. That little degree of RANDOM just tests how well you are prepared for varying circumstances.

I know it can be very frustrating sometimes, putting a lot of work into your entry and then it crashes out in the 3rd lap. But to achieve something in this tight packed field of competitors you have to take risks with no guarantee.

If you don’t want to watch the races that’s fine don’t watch them.

Without the weather system and other random variables the results would be the same as the spreadsheet calculations that were made for the pre-season tests, based on test 6 you came 15th so unless you improved your car a lot before the final submission this is where you would be without the weather system or thereabouts depending on the track, there’s just no excitement in knowing where you’re going to place.

It also just doesn’t make sense to be “realistic” in a simulation that can’t possibly have a lot of the variables that make real motorsport so unpredictable, we are really playing the part of a race manager at this stage so to us things like driver errors truly are random (but of course car drivability is a factor), it’s made to be as interesting and as fair as possible for all participant’s

Even though I hate every line of that brc code when my car goes down, I believe randomness (to some degree) does make it more fun. And having a bit more rain is fine by me, especially now we have forecast. I do however support @HowlerAutomotive s pit window, as pitting lap after lap was a problem at some races.

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umber and severity of both have been decreased already before this discussion came up
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I was planning to propose that but didn’t want to be a bi*ch before season has even started :sweat_smile:

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I think we can stop arguing with Mer_At now, his point has been made and I am totally unsure as to why he is even participating in the BRC if he hates its core functionality. Lets drop the argument and get back to being hyped for the season!

True! We need some commentary-style filler (like you get before a race) to fill the time by filling us in on stuff.

Here’s something to discuss:
The split between FR, MR and RR this season is very nearly 1/3 each. And, while all the RR cars bar one are Porsche body vehicles, the range of bodies being used is broad to say the least.

Given that last season, it seemed to be a battle between FR cars and the MR 60’s Exotic Body, will this season be more of a battle of engine placement instead of body choice? Or, seeing as almost 1/3 of the competition are using the Porsche body, will be it Porsche vs everyone else instead?

or will that #nerftheFFcar win again?

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It should be good, but not winning. BRC66 was pretty much luck, since those who were competetive tended to detonate quite early on.

And yes, there is again a very small selection of bodies. We do have a couple of Jeepsters though! The question is, what concept will win and in which arragement. RR cars have more grip on the rear axle, which may help the hyper-turbo cars a ton. We could se the domination of the Porsches, crushing everyone. Or those 70s wedge MR coupes could dominate the field - there are a lot of them aswell
I would say its: Porsche vs MR wedge coupe vs Rest

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