Cars that you oddly like (and dislike)

I thought this would be interesting since everyone is partial to certain cars that everybody doesn’t like, and dislikes certain cars everybody loves.

So let’s hear em.

Personally:
Likes

  1. Veyron - I think they become ironically cool since the advent of the hypercar trio and Koenigsegg, in that they are still proper GTs.
  2. Venom - It’s a Lotus with 1200 hp in it. Shame the guy behind it was a crook, but the S7 was like that and nobody cared.
  3. F50 - It really isn’t that ugly or slow.
  4. Celica GT-S - DC5-like performance that IMO looks better and less bro-ish.
  5. MR2 Spyder - Supposedly best handling MR2, and I think it looks really cool with certain mods.
  6. 3G Eclipse - I know they’re inferior in every way to a 2G, but I like the look and AWD swaps aren’t unheard of.
  7. SLR Mclaren - A strange mix of design choices, but nonetheless incredibly charming for me.

Dislikes

  1. Koenigseggs - It’s fast, it’s technologically advanced, it’s the vision of one man, it has bespoke components made just for it. Wait how’s it all so different from the much maligned Veyron then in spirit?
  2. P1 - Really falls short compared to the 918 in most performance tests, and I have an irrational hatred of Mclarens new design language.
  3. EK9 Civic Type R - End all be all Type R apparently. I used to like it alot but you can only see so many “clean” yellow/white type R’s with carbon hoods and RPF1s before you get sick of them.
  4. C7 Z06 - Trying to be the ZR1 at a much lower price, without any of the charm the ZR1 had due to IMO excessive mass market appeal. It sells though.
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Likes:
-Modern chryslers and lincolns. Idk why I just like their design for some odd reason that I can’t explain
-Ford Flex. Idk why i love it so much but everything about it does it for me and idk why

Dislikes:
-Idk why but i think all ferrari’s on sale now and in the last decade or so are ugly, and the ones before that just boring
-The laferrari especially
-Supercars in general since most people who buy them buy them for flashiness, which means the stats and the performance of the car is kind of irrelevant as long as the car has reputation and noise

I agree with you for the most part, I’m also a big fan of the SLR, especially the 722 (a front engined hypercar!) and I certainly think the C7 Z06 has nothing on the ZR1 (especially in Red <3). But, I love the P1, a lot more than the Porsche. But that might be semi-present patriotism kicking in there…

As for me,
Likes:

  1. Ford Sierra Cosworth - Both the whale tail and Sapphire versions. Yes, you look like a yob driving one and some of the modifcations people make to these things I find to be awful, but it’s so much more fun than other sports saloons, and it looks fantastic.
  2. Ferrari F430 - Sure, it’s not the prettiest Ferrari ever, but I’ve always hand a fondness for it. It’s simple and to the point with its look, and the engine sound is gorgeous. I’d have one over a 458 or a 488 any day.
  3. R32 Skyline - Best looking Skyline ever imo.
  4. Anything by Kia or Hyundai - Possibly the best bang-for-buck wise anywhere on the market.
  5. Nissan Juke - Yes it’s ugly, but it’s so cool too!

Dislikes:

  1. BMW 3 Series post-2006: Unbearable cars, however well made they are. Obnoxious and overbearing; whereas the E46 was advanced and cool, and the E30 has aged near perfectly, the newer ones And don’t get me started on some of the drivers…
  2. Porsche 911 - I don’t care whether it’s a Beetle or not, Porsche’s best work has always been their race cars (though I do love the 935/938 Group 5 911s).
  3. Crossovers - Perhaps less controversial, but the reason I dislike these things is because there’s so much better elsewhere, usually for less money. Why spend £3/4k extra on a Ford Kuga when you could have a Focus Estate, which drives better, looks better and leaves you with more money to spend on a better trim?

Sorry, but no. F50 is not as ugly as people think it is, I’ll give you that. The rear end looks wonderful, the front end would be way better if the head lights had black insides instead of body colored ones. It is not however better looking than F40. I mean, the F40 screams 80s. And not the boring part of the 80s. It screams “that flamboyant part of the 80s that misleads people into thinking they were born in the wrong decade”. The modern supercars (and any sort of vehicle bought for prestige, except the Rolls-Royces maybe) just looks so fucking pissed off. What message do they convey? “I’m angry I have a micropenis, get outta my way?” The nineties are kinda hit and miss. On one hand you have the McLaren F1, on the other you have the shapeless blob kind of design, but hey, they are not too bad in comparison.

Now, back to the topic. I sorta like the styling of the AMC Gremlin. The proportions should not work. The “rear end cut off” kind of look should not work either. But somehow, my eyes look at this, and go “This looks cool, this looks so badass”.
I also like the looks of the Citroen C4 Cactus. I can’t stand crossovers at all, but this fella somehow slips past that judgement. Don’t ask me why, but that’s just the way I feel.
I like the MPVs as well. Something just gets me about their utilitarian function-over-form design, and while I’d never drive one, I would certainly pick a proper MPV over the latest Espace for an instance (They turned the iconic MPV into a fucking crossover, can you believe that?)

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Likes:

  • Almost the whole current Ford line-up. They used to do really ugly cars with bad bad engines, but they have been improving in latest models.
  • Maseratis
    They look cool and sound even nicer, but they never seem to get a lot of attention.

Dislikes

  • Every McLaren besides the F1. I think the looks doesn’t match the performance
  • Lamborghini Huracán. I recently look one up close (interior and everything) and it looks cheap (I mean, for that price…), and the exterior is… Bland.
  • F50 ugh :mask:

Likes:
-Toyota Prius C: I don’t get what it is, but they look so cool.
-Porsche 914/6: Again, I don’t get what it is, but fuck they’re cool.
-Nissan Stagea: I mean, most wagons are sick, but it is truly one of the only nissans I like.

Dislike:
-Most old nissans: It may look hipster of me, but Anything from nissan pre-2010 is bland to me.
-Most old Toyotas: Again, anything from toyopet from pre-2005 is bland to me (Bar my own :stuck_out_tongue:)
-Any big MURICA “show” pick-up: I like the ones used for Farm work, I get that, but fuck the ones that never see rugged use.

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Likes:
-Chrysler’s K car platform: Say what you will but you’re looking at some of the best bad cars ever made. They could cross over terrain that no front-wheel-drive sedan should be able to make, and about the only criteria the 2.2L needs to run is to have compression. Carb screwed up? No problem. Blown head gasket that results in only one cylinder firing? No problem. (That actually happened when I was a kid, despite running on only one cylinder my dad was able to get the thing to do 70 mph on the freeway. He’s got a very light foot.) It’s also quite impressive what you can fit inside those cars despite how small they are. (Maybe relative dimensions come into play.)

-Ford Crown Victoria: Largely the same car in the early 1990s, it was a long running, simple, and tough car. Before they were phased out, to get one to 100,000 miles, it cost our city on average $2500 in repair costs. A Dodge Charger Police Interceptor was more like $6500. The new Police Interceptors are fast, having driven one myself I can definitely vouch for the ability to put your ass in the seat. However, from a maintenance standpoint, they are a bit of a nightmare. Having worked intimately with them for the past five or so years, my co-worker has quite the disdain for the EcoBoost. Again, it’s good for performance, but from a maintenance point of view, they are a bit of a pain.

-Chrysler Minivans (1st Generation): I admit I’m a bit of a sucker for the boxy style of '80s cars. The minivan was a revolutionary idea for it’s time. It was also brought to us by the same guy responsible for the Ford Mustang, a bit of fun trivia there. There is a bit of correlation there as Lee Iacocca was mainly targeting the same buyer demographic which by the 1980s would be older and have families that would need to be hauled around. In particular I would love to find a 1989 Dodge Caravan/Plymouth Voyager that came equipped with a 2.5 turbo mated to a five-speed manual. It wasn’t very popular thus few were made. As a result it’s an exceptionally rare configuration that you can find kicking some ass on Youtube.

-Third Generation Ford Taurus SHO: For some oddball reason, I like this design. The third generation was the least popular among the public but I think it’s interesting. The SHO came with a Yamaha 3.4L V8. On the flip side there was an issue with the camshafts separating from the sprockets, if you hear the phrase welded cams, that was the fix for that engine. The car only came with an automatic transmission, though I have spotted MTX conversion kits being mentioned before as well.

-Any Cadillac 1976 or older: The beautiful Cadillacs. The big Cadillacs. The one with the 500 cubic inch engine that you would see blowing past you on the freeway… only to later pass by while it’s stopped at the next gas station. To me the ideal luxury car is something huge. It may handle like a barge, but some of them old Lincolns and Cadillacs would pass smoothly over bumps and potholes that you would notice in a modern Rolls Royce, but not in those.

-Jensen Interceptor: An oddball looking car to be certain. But with a 440 under the hood, one that will haul ass. At least that’s the idea. Sadly when you combine the words British, Car, Seventies, and Midlands, they are almost never used in conjunction with words like Dependable, Well Built, Reliable. It is a sad tale of one of the most prominent car building countries in the world.

Dislikes: (I realize that I’ve kind of started rambling so I’ll try to keep this brief)

-Crossovers: There are cars. There are trucks. PICK ONE!!!

-Electric cars: This one is a bit of a grey area for me. I am not opposed to the idea of an electric car in the slightest way. I am however, opposed to the execution of development. As I have mentioned in other threads, the biggest killer of electric cars is the lack of profit motive. Instead of trying to turn out a better product, you’re focused on getting that subsidy. Looking around you will be hard pressed to find an electric car that will stand on it’s own. On one end of the spectrum you’ve got a slow, short ranged POS which has absolutely no redeeming qualities whatsoever. On the other end you have a sleek, badass ride that not only looks cool, but will blow away anything else on the drag strip… with one catch. Mercedes built an all electric version of the SLS. When raced against the AMG Black edition of the same car, the electric one blew the doors of it. But if you got the gas powered one, you would then have enough money left over to buy twenty thousand gallons of fuel for it. You’re either building a half-assed shitbox to get a check from the taxpayers, or simply an overpriced novelty. If instead the development of electric cars relied solely on the market, one manufacturer would work towards building cars to meet that demand. Say Ford started selling an electric car that was reasonably priced, had good range, and could stand on it’s own. GM would then work on making an electric car that’s faster, cheaper, has better range, etc. Market demand, profit motive and competition would result in faster, better, safer, and cheaper electric cars, much like with normal conventional cars. If you’re just building a car to meet a minimum spec, it’ll probably suck. But if you’re build a car with the goal of selling more than someone else’s car. Then you’re gonna find out how you can make yours better. Yeesh, that was one hell of a rant, moving on.

-Hybrids: Owners seem to have a holier-than-thou attitude. (Never mind how filthy nickel-mining is) Also see above. Not to mention most of them are just plain fugly. They say aerodynamics is the reason for the design, well I think Koenigseggs are built with aerodynamics in mind as well, and they seem to do a better job of pulling it off.

-Ford Fiesta: A European design brought into the US to meet the demand for higher fuel economy, too bad the 50 mpg diesel option wasn’t one of them. I own a 1994 Ford Taurus which sits lower than the Fiesta, yet I can sit in the Taurus without my head rubbing against the ceiling. In the Fiesta, I cannot.

-Smart Fortwo: A hideous looking car which requires premium fuel and offers disappointing fuel economy for it’s size. Plus the risk of certain death if you hit anything that isn’t another Smart car.

Hell, I’m gonna say it. Modern pickup trucks: Not the styling, not the quality, not the output, not the capabilities. The reason I list them in the hate category is one thing: Price. With sticker prices ranging from $50,000 to $60,000, that’s insane! You’re building what’s practically a luxury car on a truck chassis. Say you need a truck for work, well if you’re a working person, chances are you don’t have $50,000-60,000 to blow on a truck. Honestly, I would prefer a basic spartan truck with a single bench seat. Something designed to be tough, simple, and inexpensive.

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Regarding the smart fortwo and certain death, idk if you mean the old or new generation but at least with the old one they slammed it against a static concrete wall at highway speeds and only the cars outside got damaged.

EDIT: however i do hate them as well, but for the reason of you can get a proper sized car for cheaper that has better quality and better fuel economy, plus the added size, and since the whole “parallel park front to curb” thing doesn’t actually work anywhere, the car is essentially just an expensive fashion accessory. I would understand someone buying a forfour though

I’ll have to agree with you on the modern camaro. Its front end looks like Volkswagen trying to make a pony/muscle car.

Likes:

  • Pontiac Solstice / Saturn Sky - Maligned for its parts bin origins, and anemic base engine. But I like the American Miata.

  • Vector W8 - Like most supercars of the early 90s, this one was a victim of the recession (and bad PR). But I like the American Ferrari.

  • Volvo 262C - Swedish Pimpmobile

  • Chevrolet Monza - If you squint, you can convince yourself it’s a Ferrari 365 GTC/4

  • Rolls-Royce Camargue - I like big coupes, and I cannot lie. Sir Drives-a-Lot remix


Dislikes:

  • Acura Integra Type-R - It’s an irrational hatred. No idea why. Perhaps it’s just too boy-racerish and I’m forever being reminded that I’m an “old soul” and that I was born 30 lol, so it just doesn’t appeal to me. Great car, though - and yes I love VTEC, but I’d rather have an Accord.

  • Toyota Supra (4th Generation - A80) - Overpriced, overhyped, cliche…

  • Bugatti Veyron - Perhaps dislike is too strong… nevertheless, I’d rather have an EB110

  • Bugatti Type 57S Atlantic - Widely considered to be one of the most beautiful cars ever designed, I honestly don’t see what the fuss is about. I’m partial to a Phantom Corsair or Rolls Royce Aerodynamic Coupe from that period.

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L:
Dunno, Fiat Multipla (function > form), Cougar XR7 Supercharged (manual somehow), clean unmolested NA JZA80s (perfectly adequate GT car), Volvo 360GLT (smaller, lighter 240 with 50/50 weight distribution)

D:
Ford GT40 (so the 2nd largest car maker in the world with a near infinite R&D budget beat a tiny ass boutique manufacturer in a couple races, big deal. Chronically underfunded Lancia pulled the same trick some ten years earlier and even gave Ferrari a competitive car that won them a F1 championship)
R34 Skyline (most overrated car ever, was designed in 1981, NOT faster than its contemporaries)
Tesla (too expensive, too reliant on gimmicks, designed by Mazda in the mid-2000s)

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I completely forgot to mention, by strange love for the following cars (of course i’ve owned them before, both in the colours shown here)

The facelifted Volvo C30, my second car ever and I love it too much. The uniqueness and quality of it is just everything, had to give it up eventually since it’s incredibly impractical sadly.

The Volvo 480 turbo, oh my this little ball of happiness. It’s not very practical but it’s the only really “enthusiast” car i’ve bought, especially since these were never sold where I live.

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Some of the cars i like/love include:

1968-1970 Dodge Charger

It exudes power and style like no other musclecar of its era…specially if it comes with the “Elephant” HEMI under the hood. (Of course i want mine in jet black and supercharged just like the one featured in the original “The Fast and The Furious” flick.)

2005-2014 Ford Mustang “Retroclassic”

IMHO It is the absolute best Mustang ever built, even in BOSS 302 trim with the new “Coyote” motor in it as shown.

Now to the most hated car in the world, which is:
2015 and current Mitsubishi Mirage

With all those SEVERE quality issues, lackluster 3-cylinder engine and -get a load of this, folks!- OUTSTANDING SAFETY RECALLS, it shows why any self-respecting automaker SHOULDN’T opt out of any motorsport activities, even if those 'makers are running into some serious hardships. (Don’t get me wrong; It serves it’s duty as basic transporters though.)

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I was never really a fan of Mitsubishi, but what the hell happened to them? They went from one of the most prominent companies in the world to fading into obscurity.

Basically Mitsubishi fell out of grace when they stopped their racing program to serious financial troubles and some stupid marketing decisions favoring soccer moms and those “envirocrazies”, not to mention EPA’s oxymoronic fuel milage mandates, which were -right before its latest revision, that is- quite unrealistic. (54.5 MPG by 2025?! NO WAY JOSE!!!)