CMV 5M: Out NOW!

CMV (inspired by BMW) started in 1948 post-war as a maker of sports cars and passenger cars. Over the last 71 years, it has established itself as a maker of high-performance sports cars as well as more utilitarian passenger cars and some cars right in the middle. It all started with the CMV 1.5, now known as the Model 1.

I’ll use “Carl” as a placeholder for my last name, I don’t want to expose personnal information.

This is on a timeline basis, so cars will be added by the year they’re made rather than all the trims one by one.

MODEL 1 1.5

The year was 1948. Due to obvious reasons, Europe’s economy wasn’t exactly booming and lovers of speed couldn’t find a suitable sports car. So they made one. Spencer Carl spearheaded the project, so the company was named for him. The result was the CMV 1.5, a breath of fresh air compared to all the rest of the slow post-war cars. I say “rest” because it was a slow post-war car. It had a peak horsepower of 43 but a comparatively health torque figure of 68 lb-ft from its 1.5L OHV I4. However, it looked good and turned well,(For 1947,) making it a comercial success.

However, it wasn’t to be the last of the Model 1, not by a long shot…

MODEL 1 1.5L

Now, it’s 1950. After the wide success of the 1.5, CMV was recieving requests for a more comfortable variant, and they provided. The “L” stands for luxe. there are no exterior changes, (hence, no photos), however, it’s what you couldn’t see that counts. The 3-speed manual was replaced with a, new for 1950, 2-speed slush-o-matic. It was downgraded to less sporty brake pads, but upgraded to premium interior quality and an AM radio. The springs, dampers, and anti-roll bars were also softened. This model appealed to those looking for a comfortable cruiser rather than a sports car.

However, CMV was looking to broaden its horizons…



MODEL 2 1.5

The other car launched by CMV in 1950 was the Model 2 1.5, (at this point they’re called by the model number, so Model 1 1.5 and Model 1 1.5L instead of 1.5 and 1.5L) It is targeted towards families, with 5 seats, advanced 50’s safety, and softer suspension. For the sake of cost cutting, it has the same engine, transmission, and tail/headlights of the Model 1 1.5.

It is now the 50’s, during the reconstruction of Europe, and the 43 HP 1.5 I4 isn’t quite enough for a sports car, so CMV delivered…

Model 1 2.5S

In 1951, CMV lauched the Model 1 2.5S (sport models are now designated with “S”) featuring a soon-to-be world famous 2.5L I6 with direct-acting overhead cams and 2 2-barrel carburetors. It made 127 HP and 145 lb-ft of torque. This engine was to be in use for the next 20 years in CMV sports cars and passenger cars in various tunes. No exterior changes were made other than dual exhausts.

It’s going well for CMV, and they now have sufficient funding for more advanced cars, and they decided to show it off with a brand-new 4-door sedan…



MODEL 3 2.0S

The Model 3 was a CMV and automotive revolution. It utilized aluminum panels, galvanized steel moncoque chassis, and double wishbone front and rear suspension. A concept (pictured) was unveiled at the 1956 Geneva Motor Show with DOHC 4 valves per cylinder, race DCOE carbs, race headers, and a 6600 rpm rev limit. Highly unrealistic for a road car, but it proved what CMV was truly capable of, producing nearly 100 HP per liter, unheard of in 1956 and even some modern engines don’t produce that figure.

The production version was released in 1957 with a heavily detuned engine with only SOHC and two single barrel carbs. It still went against all the norms for a 4 cylinder engine and produced 117 HP and 131 lb-ft of torque. However, it retained the 4-speed manual, 195mm tires, and styling (minus the suicide doors) of the concept.

The Model 3 was a great blend of performance and usabily, however, it didn’t sell as well as the Model 2 as it was more of a niche product. CMV was satisfied with the production sales of the Model 3. However, they wanted to find a use for the engine from the concept…


MODEL 3 2.0S RALLY The Model 3 Rally was CMV’s first attempt at motorsport relevancy that crashed and burned, likely due to its rushed production. 2 weeks before the rally, execs on the production line pulled off a Banana Yellow and Flames Red Model 3 and workers got to work Because the concept was a one of a kind concept, they had to start with a standard 2.0S and spec it out as much like the concept. Instead of starting off with a bare-bones interior, they had to strip down the interior and use whatever parts they could find. They managed to get offroad tires and offroad oriented suspension parts but had to use the heavy standard seats. 3 days before the cars needed to be there, 2 engines identical to the concept’s were produced, as dual overhead cams and race carburetors weren’t a common find in a factory mostly making 43 HP 2 door family cars. Engineers fiddled around with the engine to get an extra 6 HP, bringing it up to 195.

The red #8 car had a mechanical failure when the standard driveshaft couldn’t handle the power and snapped after a small bump, while the #7 yellow car suffered from overheating due to insufficient cooling and finished near the back of the pack.

But CMV wouldn’t give up on racing the little Model 3, and the next year pursued an even crazier racing competition…


MODEL 3 3.0R

Because they participated in the 1959 24 Hours of Le Mans! This time, racing wasn’t an afterthought, and they had time to develop a brand-new engine purpose built for the competition. A 3.0L I4 would be impractical and a 3.0 I6 wouldn’t fit in the tiny body, so the company decided on a 3.0L 90* V8. It made 310 HP and revved to 7500 RPM, which were great figures, but CMV knew it wouldn’t be near to top due to its frumpy aerodynamics. 3 cars entered, sky blue #7, flames red #8, and black forest green #9. #7 was sideswiped by a Porsche that lost control early in the race, and #9 suffered a rollover crash which luckily only caused minor injuries. #8 Finished 8/22, but only 13 cars remained by the end of the race, so realistically 8/13. However, this was a success for the CMV team, proving they could make a car that could actually compete in a world-class racing event.

After their racing “success” CMV set forth introducing technologies in the Model 3 to the aging Model 1…

Grand Touring: GT25, GT25S, GT53

CMV permanantly changed it’s naming system in 1962. Instead of Model 4, its the GT. The Model 3 is now called the C20. (Compact 2.0L)

The GT models were a huge step up from the aging Model 1. It had aluminum body panels, corrosion resistant steel monocoque chassis, and all around double wishbone suspension. It was aimed at the grant touring segment, which is a good balance between sportiness (like the 1.5S) and comfortability. (like the 1.5L) However, a 4 speed manual and sport compound tires were standard equipment for all models.

GT25: The GT25 was powered by the exact same engine as the Model 1 2.5S and was meant to be a more baseline model. However, it was a failure and discontinued in 1963.

GT25S: The GT25S was more sporty than the GT25 only in the engine department. It featured a revamp of the same 2.5 from 1951 now with 29 more HP (156) and 4 more lb-ft of torque. (149.) The main change was forged internals and a higher cam profile, (hence higher rev limit, from 5300 to 6200,) which caused a drop in efficiency. However, this was okay because of the shift of focus from MPG to power in the late 50’s. This was the best selling model in Europe, as the GT53 was a bit too extreme for the home continent of the car.

GT53: The GT53 was a model made to cater to the American market and became the only one sold in America after 1963. It was powered by a 5.3L DAOHC 90* V8 making 311 HP and 337 lb-ft of torque. It was the only engine available truly suited to moving a car of its size. It established a reputation as a classy car while the 6 cylinder models were mostly forgotten, even in Europe, and was also one of the fastest at the time, capable of 157 mph. It is now seen as a cult classic and sells for millions in auction.

C20

After the discontinuation of the Model 2, CMV released a family-oriented version of the C20S, the C20, with softer and higher suspension, premium interior quality, power steering, and a detuned version of the C20S engine with 88 HP and 116 lb-ft of torque.






Compact: C20,C20S

The C series body was 9 years old by 1965 and buyers were looking for something that was up to 60’s technology. The 2nd generation C series, internally known as the 2C, was the solution. It was offered in coupe and sedan bodystyles.

C20: The C20 was powered by the same 2.0L I4 engine as the last generation car, and came with a 4-speed manual, 13 inch chrome rims wrapped in 185mm tires, front disc brakes, premium interior quality, power steering, and comfort oriented suspension.

C20S: The C20S was powered by a variation of the engine in the 1C C20S, with 11 more HP (128) and 1 more lb-ft of torque. (132.) It also came with a 5-speed manual, sport compound tires, sport interior, and sport oriented suspension 10mm lower than the base model. It was praised for pulling harder than the numbers would suggest and turned on a dime thanks to its miniscule weight, less than 2000 lbs. for the coupe! It would’ve gone down in history as a famous sports car, if it weren’t for the tu- TO BE CONTINUED



Luxe: L30,L53

CMV saw the rise of the luxury car market and took a stab at it with the GT series, which saw mild success, but they also wanted a piece of the luxury sedan pie. The L series was the answer. Both L models came with a luxury interior and 3-speed automatic, and front disc brakes.

L30: The L30 has one of the most unique powertrains of any CMV; a 3.0L I4 with SOHC and a 4-barrel carb . This was created because engineers couldn’t fit a decent-sized I6 in the suprisingly small engine compartment. It was a relatively weak engine, with 153 HP and 176 lb-ft of torque. It sold terrible and it is now seen as a missed opportinity to just chop 2 cylinders off the 5.3 V8.

L53: The L53 was powered by the same 5.3L V8 found in the GT53. It was the incredibly more successful model and it is unknown why the L30 wasn’t discontinued after the 1st year. A few features the L53 had over the L30 were rear disc brakes and a phonograph.



Supercar: S35,S50

At the turn of the decade, CMV had a vast lineup of sporty and comfortable passenger cars. However, the company wanted an extreme, unique offering. (And an excuse to get back into racing.) They designed a body and 2 engines from scratch and came up with the S series, a mid engined supercar featuring fiberglass panels, all-around double-wishbone suspension, a 5-speed manual, all-around disc brakes, and 15 inch magnesium wheels wrapped in 245mm sport tires. The only difference between the 2 models is the engine.

S35: The S35 was kind of a disappointment for CMV. They designed a 330 HP 7000 RPM 3.5L I6 with mechanical fuel injection and SOHC. However, they soon discovered that the engine was too long to fit in the car, front or mid, longitudinal or transverse. For the sake of tradition, they re-designed the I6 with significantly smaller bore and significantly higher stroke. As a result, the 3.5L engine fit transverse but only revved to 6000 RPM and only made 278 HP and 255 lb-ft of torque. It was still a fast car, but they couldn’t realize the full potential of the engine. It did 0-60 in 5.0 seconds and went on to hit 148 MPH. Thanks to fiberglass panels, it still weighed less than 2400 lbs. The S35 experienced slightly more sales than the S50, but both were limited production models.

S50: The S50 was powered by one of the most powerful engines of 1970, (even considering American muscle,) a 5.0 V8 with SOHC and mechanical fuel injection. Unlike the S35, however, there was space for an oversquared engine and could rev to 6800 RPM. It made 425 HP and 363 lb-ft of torque, while still only weighing less than 2600 lbs, allowing for 0-60 in 4.5 seconds and 169 MPH. Although it weighed 200 lbs. more than the S35 and had no suspension or wheels/tires changes, it still had the handling of the S35 and was by far the better-performing model, and CMV kind of swept the S35 under the rug in promotional material and used the S35 as a way to attract people to a low price mid-engine supercar and then upmarket them to the S50.



S50 Procar

The S50 Procar was a missed opportunity for CMV to make a force to be reckoned with.They had a mid-engined aerodynamic bodyshell with a 5.0L V8 powerhouse, but couldn’t realize its potential. The modified V8 made 65 more horsepower than the standard engine (470) and 6 more lb-ft of torque. (369) However, it was plagued with reliability issues, and oftentimes wouldn’t cross the finish line. And when it did, it didn’t place very well. The road car didn’t sell well, either, and they pulled out of racing and cancelled production in 1972. However, the S50 is now considered an essential part of CMV history



C20 Turbo

The C20 Turbo was the last hurrah for the 2C generation C series. CMV wanted to test its brand-new turbo technology on a road car, so they took the aging 2C C20S and added a turbo, 225mm tires, front splitter, rear wing, and stiffer suspension. The result was a monster with 255 HP and 222 lb-ft of torque. It set lap records across the world and went down in history as a legend.

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I really think your cars need a lot more detail. They look way too plain at the moment.

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And they all have Hitler moustaches. Try going for chrome at least

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50’s/60’s cars are pretty plain, though that is also a problem i have with the more modern cars.

I’ll post a picture of the GT53 with chrome, but I don’t think it looks much better.

As a sidenote, are the cars interesting/realistic?

Mmm I don’t know about “plain”, they’re less complicated than modern cars but they have details still. Best way to make cars from this period more interesting is with thin chrome detailing, especially around the grilles, lights, handles, sills, bumpers and down the sides of the body.

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yeah, there is a marked difference between plain, and simple.

put simply, your cars lack the real detailing and fixture choice that would adorn cars of the 50s/60s. they look like a bad modern kit replica, to be blunt.

just take a look at this actual 50s german car to see what i mean.

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That thing has so much chrome it would blind people in the sunlight, but I see your point.

I updated the GT with more chrome accents and am in the process of doing the same to the Model 3/C20. The Model 1/2 are meant to be cheap, so I won’t update those designs with extra chrome as they’re not supposed to be flashy.

Impressive stuff for the era indeed. Now imagine if that engine were in a lighter, more aerodynamic body with better weight distribution - probably a mid-engined one. Then its true potential would be fully realized.

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That’s what I was thinking when I made it. (I checked out the specs, it actually has slightly more power than the Ferrari V12s in the actual '59 Le Mans!) It’s a shame there aren’t aerodynamic bodies in the 50’s, (apart from the GT series body) but don’t worry, I have plans for the '65 supercar body…

From now on, I’m going to post updates to the thread on replies instead of updating the original post.






Compact 3C: C20,C23,C23S

The 3rd generation c series, 3C if you will, featured more rounded styling than the 2C generation model along with all-around disc brakes, 8-track entertainment, power-steering, and updated safety. All models came in coupe and sedan variants.

C20: The C20 was powered by a variant of the same 2.0L I4 used for the past 22 years beginning with the Model 3, but it made less power than any variant yet (80). However, it was much more efficient and produced much less pollution thanks to a 3-way catalytic converter. The sedan weighed less than 2000 lbs. and the coupe was less than 1900 lbs.

C23: The C23 was powered by a brand new 2.3L I6 making 104 HP and 124 lb-ft of torque. It came with no different equipment from the C20 apart from the engine. It was the most popular model, as it didn’t sacrifice much MPG and only weighed 15 more lbs. than the C20.

C23S: The C23S was powered by a variant of the 2.3L I6 in the C23 now making 148 HP and 130 lb-ft of torque. However, it has been tested and proven that the engine makes 161 HP without the restrictive 3-way catalytic converter. It also came with vented front disc brakes, a 5-speed manual, sport interior, and stiffer suspension. It is now remarked as having one of the best sounding engines of CMV history, only revving to 6500 RPM but sounding so good on the way there. It also turned on a dime, with 185mm sport tires and only weighing 1850 lbs, or less than 1800 lbs. with the rear-seat delete option.






Midsize 1M: C24,C28,C48,C48 R

The first M series was released in 1982, bridging the gap between the compact C series and the Luxobarge L series. It standard features included all-around disc brakes, a 5-speed manual, 15 in. alloy wheels wrapped in 245mm tires, luxury interior quality, and variable hydraulic power steering. All 3 engines were built from the ground up for this model and some found use in the upcoming 2nd gen. L series.

C24: The C24 was powered by a brand-new 2.4L I4 with SOHC and multi-point EFI, producing 143 HP and 143 lb-ft of torque. However, it weighed less than 2700 lbs, so it pulled harder than numbers would suggest and turned well for a midsize sedan. In combination with a 5-speed manual, it struck a great balance between, comfort, sport, and affordability.

C28: The C28 was powered by an also brand-new 2.8L I6 with SOHC and EFI, producing 185 HP and 172 lb-ft of torque. The manual was only about 75 lbs. heavier than the C24, making it the “drivers choice” of the lineup. It was available in a 5-speed manual and 4-speed auto.

C48: The C48’s engine was essentially two C24 engines stuck together with a new crankshaft, a 4.8L V8. It produced much more HP/Liter than the C24 however, with 347 HP and 287 lb-ft of torque.It was available in both 5-speed manual and 4-speed auto, and reviewers actually said it reminded them of classic muscle, with high power and (relatively) weak handling. I say relatively because-

C48 R: The C48 R saw CMV’s first use of the “R” moniker for high-performance versions of their passenger cars. It featured a heavily tuned version of the 4.8L V8, with 384 HP and 313 lb-ft of torque thanks to ITB’s and a less restrictive exhaust system. It also handled much better thanks to a front splitter, rear wing, wider sport tires, front ventilated disc brakes, magnesium wheels, a limited-slip differential, and stiffer suspension. The rear bench seat was also replaced by 2 captain’s chairs for the sake of weight-saving. The only transmission option was a 5-speed manual. The legend of the 7000 RPM V8 luxury sedan that turns on a dime and destroys the 1/4 mile lives on to this day. (Little known fact, if you went to a CMV dealer back in the day and knew the right people, they could install a completely muffler-less exhaust system which was highly illegal, but apparently let out a lot of the low-end growl that couldn’t be heard with the factory mufflers.)

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C20 Turbo R

In 1982, CMV made another venture into the world of racing with the C20 Turbo, which actually *gasp won some races. It was powered by an all-new 2.0L I6 with DOHC, EFI and a single turbo. It made 293 HP and 254 lb-ft of torque, and put that power to the rear wheels via a 5-speed manual. It also cornered incredibly thanks to 275/325mm slick tires wrapped around 14 in. magnesium wheels, race suspension, and high downforce. It was very successful in racing, and CMV felt the need for celebration…

So they made a road-going version of the car! It bore the same name as the race car, but was detuned to 249 HP and 212 lb-ft of torque. However, the turbo wasn’t detuned from the race edition, so it was one of those 80’s cars with HUGE turbo lag to the point where it was considered part of the car’s “personality.” Some reviewers complained that it had less power than the 2C, but that is only due to a catalytic converter which the 2C was lacking. Without that, it made 270 HP. It was also detuned in the handling department, with smaller tires, brakes, softer suspension, and a somewhat usable interior.

I think by inspired you mean knockoff BMWs :stuck_out_tongue:

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I say “inspired” for a reason. I’m not trying to rip-off BMW (yeah right,) I’m kind of building my own storyline (yeah right) and somewhat separating my designs from actual BM’s.



Luxe 2L: L28,L48,L56

The first generation L series was discontinued in 1972 when the demand for luxobarges nearly vanished. However, 11 years later, comfortable cruisers were back on the rise and CMV took advantage of this with the 2nd generation L series, or 2L. It had absolute luxury in mind, with a hand made interior, cassette player, 4 captain’s chairs, and one of the first uses of air springs. A 4-speed automatic was standard equipment.

L28: The L28 is powered by the same 2.8L I6 found in the M28, with 185 HP. It struggled to haul it’s 3300 lbs. weight, and was also not a very smooth engine. It was by far the least popular engine. [Basically the 730d of L series. (see Europeans I know something about Euro bimmers :slight_smile: .)]

L48: The L48 was also powered by an engine from the M series, this time the 4.8L V8 from the M48. It was the bestselling model as it was smoother and much faster than the L28 but not as exclusive and expensive and the L56.

L56: The L56 was powered by a brand new 5.6L V12 making 412 HP and 366 lb-ft of torque. It truly was a luxo barge, weighing in at 3800 lbs. and taking 146 ft to go from 62-0. However, the brick residing in the front of the car apparently called an “engine” had enough power to get the ultra-luxury sedan to 155 MPH.

Looks at own cars, 115hp to move about the same weight
Different standards I guess xD

For someone buying a huge luxury car, I guess their standards would be a lot higher :).



Compact 4C: C20,C25,C27S

In 1985, CMV replaced the 9 year old 3C generation C series with the 4C generation. Baseline models were actually pretty bare bones, but higher up models had features like a 5 speed manual, variable hydraulic steering, and ABS. The C25 and C27S were both available in coupe AND sedan form, while the C20 was only offered as a sedan.

C20: The C20 was a very affordability-oriented model with 78 HP and 104 lb-ft (at 2200 RPM) from its 2.0L I4 powerplant. It wasn’t fast, it’s didn’t turn well, but it did its job, being an inexpensive economy car. For less that $10,500, you could have a CMV!

C25: The C25 was a much more comfortable and sporty model than the C20, with 142 HP and 149 lb-ft of torque from it’s 2.5L I4, but also a more well-equipped interior. The coupe model also weighed around 2000 lbs, making it a decent handing car. However, the C25 wasn’t the sports car of the model range. That honor goes to the

C27S: The C27S had much more equipment than other models in the range. It had features mentioned earlier like ABS, a 5 speed manual, and variable hydraulic steering. It also had stiffer suspension vented disc front brakes. However, the main event for this car was the engine, and 2.7L Inline 5. Why such an unconventional engine choice? CMV wanted an I6 engine in the C27, but it couldn’t fit, but they didn’t want and I4, so they compromised. It made 169 HP and 170 lb-ft of torque, and considering (the coupe) weighed less than 2000 lbs, it was one of the most unique and agile sports cars of the 80’s.

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