Cool Wall Six (Final round done)

Round two, penalties


Joliette Duchesse S2 Turbo @thecarlover

  • -2 points for 2% power density engine stress
  • -1 point for loudness of 48.8

Total penalty of 3 points.


MD GT1 R240 Silverstone @the-chowi

No penalties


Waldersee Attache K20K @Texaslav 7 @Maxbombe

  • -1 point for absolutely huge front downforce compared negative rear downforce, on what is a fwd hatchback

Total penalty of 1 point.


Pennant Dash i5 @oldmanbuick

  • -1 point for fully cast iron engine, in 2020
  • -1 point for the design literally not working for a real car at all.
  • -1 point for white rear registration plate

Total penalty of 3


Planar PG40 Genoace XGS Volt @lotto77

  • -1 point for loudness of 47.5

total penalty of 1 points


Phénix Alcyone 2500S @karhgath

  • -1 point for using fibreglass and semi space frame chassis. fibreglass would have been reasonable for a 1970’s sports car but not a 2008 hatchback.

  • -1 point for using a tubular long exhaust, again bit extreme for a production hatchback

Total penalty of 2 points.


Famal Myria GTI @Hshan

  • -1 point for loundess of 49.5

Total penalty of 1 points


Eltrè Haricot - 1.0A Opentop Facelift @Hilbert

  • -2 points for 2% power density stress.

Total penalty of 2 points.


Cavaliere Nobile Freccia MC @Happyhungryhippo

  • -1 point for loudness of 48.5

Total penalty of 1 point.


Rhania Preserver Type-B UN spec @happyfireballman

  • -1 point for white rear registration plate.

Total penalty of 1 point.


Durendal Tizona RS6 @GassTiresandOil

No penalties


Shenhua Dao @ErenWithPizza

  • -1 point for massively long gears, has six but they are so long you are carrying around one extra gear for the hell of it.

Total penalty of 1 point.


Bazard Mauna @Edsel

  • -1 point for 1% conrod stress

  • As above -1 point for the gearing. This has eight but probably only going to actually use five of them.

Total penalty of 2 points.


Axuus Sabre SE @DuceTheTruth100

No penalties.

Most hosts would probably knock a point off for power being made at red line tbh, but i don’t personally have issue as i know it’s realistic to at least one actual engine in real life.


AMS Acolyte 3.5GT @abg7

No penalties.


Voltari Minerva 3.0S @vero94773

No penalties.


AVG 180T @Djadania

  • -1 point for white rear registration plate.

Total penalty of 1 point.


Mara Xenia 1.6 LRS @AndiD

  • -1 point for no power steering. Seriously?

Total penalty of 1 point.


Valvida Emos VSR @Tsundere-kun & @vouge

No penalties.


Pescetti Veloce Turbinara @IncredibleHondaFit

No penalties.


Tatsuo Caldera GT/4 @nicholasrams774

  • -1 point for brakes. The front barely work and the rears work so well the car will probably spin around.

total penalty of 1 point.


IP Colibri 2000 GTT-4 @Knugcab

  • -1 point for 1% engine power density stress.

total penalty of 1 point.


Position Car Score change
1 1979 Voltari Minerva 3.0S 17.0
2 1981 Joliette Duchesse S2 Turbo 15.0 -1 places
2 1991 IP Colibri 2000 GTT-4 15.0
4 2020 MD GT1 R240 Silverstone 13.0
5 2010 Waldersee Attache K20K 12.0
6 2003 Tatsuo Caldera GT/4 11.0 -1 places
6 2005 AMS Acolyte 3.5 GT 11.0 +1 places
8 2008 Durendal Tizona RS6 10.0
8 2010 Shenhua Dao 10.0 -1 places
10 1978 Pescetti Veloce Turbinara 7.0 +3 places
10 1988 Axuus Sabre SE 7.0 +3 places
12 2020 Bazard Mauna 6.0 -2 places
12 2009 Valvida Emos VSR 6.0 +3 places
12 2007 Eltrè Haricot - 1.0A Opentop Facelift 6.0 -2 places
12 2005 Phénix Alcyone 2500S 6.0 -2 places
16 1994 Cavaliere Nobile Freccia MC 5.0 -1 places
17 1990 Famal Myria GTI 3.0
18 1996 Planar PG40 Genoace XGS Volt -1.0
19 2020 AVG 180T -6.0
20 2020 Pennant Dash I5 -13.0
21 2012 Mara Xenia 1.6 LRS -16.0
22 2000 Rhania Preserver Type-B UN spec -20.0
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Huh, don’t remember the 1% engine stress, must have missed that then

Me neither, but looking back it was there. Oh well, Oopsie daisy!

I would like to request more clarification on the gearing, though; I thought I had a normal amount of overdrive for a modern automatic?

What gear ratios and FD you have, it really depends on those as the speed is relative to max rpm? I compared my gearing to some real cars and I agree it’s way too tall after 4th. As for modern automatics they only basically use 6 gears and 7 onward are only for fuel eco they don’t serve any other purpose so they can be really tall

Oh, the fiberglass was a stand-in for rustproof polymer panels (e.g. Saturn) but I even forgot to mention it in my ads, oops. The idea was that even tho Env Res was not a priority, being rustproof could help with the value of a used car or help on the wall. Guess it was another swing and a miss :wink:

Ulez compliance, two points


I was going to start doing the maths on the ten pointers, but this being a simple two or zero points i thought i would just get it out of the way.


Two points

Zero points


Position Car Score change
1 1979 Voltari Minerva 3.0S 19.0
2 1981 Joliette Duchesse S2 Turbo 17.0
3 1991 IP Colibri 2000 GTT-4 15.0
3 2020 MD GT1 R240 Silverstone 15.0 +1 places
5 2010 Waldersee Attache K20K 14.0
6 2005 AMS Acolyte 3.5 GT 13.0
7 2010 Shenhua Dao 12.0 +1 places
7 2008 Durendal Tizona RS6 12.0 +1 places
9 2003 Tatsuo Caldera GT/4 11.0 -2 places
10 1978 Pescetti Veloce Turbinara 9.0 +1 places
11 2020 Bazard Mauna 8.0 +1 places
11 2009 Valvida Emos VSR 8.0 +1 places
11 2007 Eltrè Haricot - 1.0A Opentop Facelift 8.0 +1 places
11 2005 Phénix Alcyone 2500S 8.0 +1 places
15 1988 Axuus Sabre SE 7.0 -5 places
16 1994 Cavaliere Nobile Freccia MC 5.0
17 1990 Famal Myria GTI 3.0
18 1996 Planar PG40 Genoace XGS Volt -1.0
19 2020 AVG 180T -4.0
20 2020 Pennant Dash I5 -11.0
21 2012 Mara Xenia 1.6 LRS -14.0
22 2000 Rhania Preserver Type-B UN spec -20.0
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Comfort, Ten points


Most comfortable car, 2000 Rhania Preserver Type-B UN spec

A huge car with premium interior and premium cd, combined with active comfort suspension is clearly the recipe for the most comforting car to drive. Even with the ladder frame and solid axle suspension.


Least comfortable car, 1990 Famal Myria GTI

At the other end you have a car with torsion beam rear suspension with very stiff sporty springs and the consequence is a very harsh ride.


Ranking Car Comfort Points
1 2000 Rhania Preserver Type-B UN spec 40.9 10
2 1988 Axuus sabre SE 38.6 9.22
3 2010 Shenhua Dao 37.0 8.68
4 2005 AMS Acolyte 3.5 GT 36 8.34
5 1994 Cavaliere Nobile Freccia MC 35.8 8.27
6 1996 Planar PG40 Genoace XGS Volt 34.5 7.83
7 2020 AVG 180T 33.9 7.63
7 2008 Durendal Tizona RS6 33.9 7.63
9 2005 Phénix Alcyone 2500S 31.3 6.75
10 2010 Waldersee Attache K20K 30.5 6.47
11 2007 Eltrè Haricot - 1.0A Opentop Facelift 28.2 5.69
12 2020 Bazard Mauna 27.8 5.56
13 2020 Pennant Dash I5 26.5 5.12
13 2012 Mara Xenia 1.6 LRS 26.5 5.12
15 1979 Voltari Minerva 3.0S 25.6 4.81
16 2003 Tatsuo Caldera GT/4 25.2 4.68
17 2020 MD GT1 R240 Silverstone 24 4.27
18 2009 Valvida Emos VSR 23.4 4.07
19 1981 Joliette Duchesse S2 Turbo 22.4 3.73
20 1991 IP Colibri 2000 GTT-4 19.8 2.85
21 1978 Pescetti Veloce Turbinara 16.7 1.8
22 1990 Famal Myria GTI 11.4 0


Current scoreboard

Position Car Score Change
1 1979 Voltari Minerva 3.0S 23.81
2 2005 AMS Acolyte 3.5 GT 21.34 +4
3 1981 Joliette Duchesse S2 Turbo 20.73 -1
4 2010 Shenhua Dao 20.68 +3
5 2010 Waldersee Attachhe K20K 20.47
6 2008 Durendal Tizona RS6 19.63 +1
7 2020 MD GT1 R240 Silverstone 19.27 -4
8 1991 Colibri 2000 GTT-4 17.85 -5
9 1988 Axuus Sabre SE 16.22 +6
10 2003 Tatsuo Caldera GT/4 15.68 -1
11 2005 Phenix Alcyone 2500S 14.75
12 2007 Eltre Haricot - 1.0A Opentop Facelift 13.69 -1
13 2020 Bazard Mauna 13.56 -2
14 1994 Cavaliere Nobile Freccia MC 13.27 +2
15 2009 Valvida Emos VSR 12.07 -4
16 1978 Pescetti Veloce Turbinara 10.8 -6
17 1996 Planar PG40 Genoace XGS Volt 6.83 +1
18 2020 AVG 180T 3.63 +1
19 1990 Famal Myria GTI 3.0 -2
20 2020 Pennant Dash I5 -2.88
21 2012 Mara Xenia 1.6 LRS -8.88
22 2000 Rhania Preserver Type-B UN spec -10
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By my math I should have 21.04 points. +11 from the coolness review (scoreboard said 10 but I’m going with the review), -1 for gearing, +2 for ULEZ (which you didn’t give me at all), +9.04 for comfort.
11 - 1 + 2 + 9.04 = 21.04

I recommend others take a look at their scores as well

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I’ll check from the first round onwards tomorrow. Just bear with me here

If anyone else does notice there numbers are wrong in the mean time feel free to mention it though as tables and maths are not my forte.

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Yay, Myria being consistently bad… turns out a car that’s cool for me and sorta similar to the cool wall ones is not necessarily the right solution :stuck_out_tongue: (TBH I didn’t expect it to be one, but I also didn’t expect it to do so poorly)
Maybe at least schport will save it? Although keeping in mind this doesn’t compete with 90s small hot hatches, but anything, I don’t have high hopes for that either.

forgot how dismal my car’s comfort was lol

Interesting how all cars still scored decently well on comfort. No car with a single digit number. Even if mine wasn’t impressive at all, I thought it should at least take me a little bit further.

If I got number 2 in anything, that shit is FUUUCKED UP LOL…Im just playin, hope you get it right and I get those same points!!!

Third overall after four rounds of judging? I didn’t expect my car to threaten the leaders, but that’s what it’s doing right now.

I just want to give an update here.

I haven’t forgot I’m actually doing this challenge I was just completely stumped with how the numbers work and I ended up doing all of the scoring for the rounds wrong, However luckily I have a huge thanks to @Sky99 as I found they have made a scoring spreadsheet available in the thread for the very first “use car shopping” challenge. I don’t know if they are still active but without this I really don’t think I could have got this working correctly, so huge thank you to them as my maths skill are pretty poor and I under estimated how much calculating was need for this challenge

I have updated the previous round with the right scoring now, and most of the numbers are entered into the spreadsheet for the scoring now so there won’t be as much of a hold up from now on, I can only apologise for the radio silence.

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Sportiness, Ten points


Sportiest car, 2005 AMS Acolyte 3.5 GT

A revvy inline six mounted in the front with a manual six speed gearbox driving the rear wheels easily equals a sporting car.


Least sporty car, 2007 Eltrè Haricot - 1.0A Opentop Facelift

However a one litre four cylinder with a cvt in a funny little egg really is the antithesis of sports. Weirdly this is even less sporty than the huge suv.


Ranking Car Sportiness Points
1 2005 AMS Acolyte 3.5 GT 38.1 10
2 2008 Durendal Tizona RS6 36.6 9.6
3 1981 Joliette Duchesse S2 Turbo 35.0 9.18
4 2020 MD GT1 R240 Silverstone 33.0 8.65
5 2010 Waldersee Attache K20K 32.3 8.46
6 1979 Voltari Minerva 3.0S 32.2 8.44
7 2005 Phénix Alcyone 2500S 31.1 8.14
7 2010 Shenhua Dao 29.8 7.80
9 1978 Pescetti Veloce Turbinara 28.6 7.48
10 1991 IP Colibri 2000 GTT-4 28.4 7.43
11 1990 Famal Myria GTI 26.5 6.92
12 2020 AVG 180T 26.1 6.82
13 2012 Mara Xenia 1.6 LRS 25.8 6.74
13 2009 Valvida Emos VSR 25.8 6.74
15 2020 Pennant Dash I5 20.8 5.41
16 2003 Tatsuo Caldera GT/4 18.6 4.83
17 2020 Bazard Mauna 17.0 4.40
18 1996 Planar PG40 Genoace XGS Volt 16.0 4.14
19 1994 Cavaliere Nobile Freccia MC 14.7 3.79
20 1988 Axuus Sabre SE 10.8 2.76
21 2000 Rhania Preserver Type-B UN spec 3.6 0.85
22 2007 Eltrè Haricot - 1.0A Opentop Facelift 0.4 0


Current scoreboard

Position Car Score Change
1 1979 Voltari Minerva 3.0S 32.25
2 2005 AMS Acolyte 3.5 GT 31.34
3 1981 Joliette Duchesse S2 Turbo 29.92
4 2008 Durendal Tizona RS6 29.23 +2
5 2010 Waldersee Attachhe K20K 28.93
6 2010 Shenhua Dao 28.48 -2
7 2020 MD GT1 R240 Silverstone 27.92
8 1991 IP Colibri 2000 GTT-4 25.28
9 2005 Phenix Alcyone 2500S 22.89 +2
10 2003 Tatsuo Caldera GT/4 20.51
11 1988 Axuus Sabre SE 18.98 -2
12 2009 Valvida Emos VSR 18.81 +3
13 1978 Pescetti Veloce Turbinara 18.28 +3
14 2020 Bazard Mauna 17.96 -1
15 1994 Cavaliere Nobile Freccia MC 17.06 -1
16 2007 Eltre Haricot - 1.0A Opentop Facelift 13.69 -4
17 1996 Planar PG40 Genoace XGS Volt 10.97
18 2020 AVG 180T 10.45
19 1990 Famal Myria GTI 9.92
20 2020 Pennant Dash I5 2.53
21 2012 Mara Xenia 1.6 LRS -2.06
22 2000 Rhania Preserver Type-B UN spec -9.15
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I thought there would be sportier cars in the field - but I was wrong, and at least I can take home the gong for best-in-class sportiness.

Yay, Myria doing well on the sporty front! BTW, you have an error in the first table, the column is named “Comfort” instead of “Sportiness”.

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Drivability, Ten points


Most drivable(?) car MD GT1 R240 Silverstone

A modern small hatchback with fwd, however this is a manual so it just goes to show an automatic isn’t always the best for drivability.


Hardest to drive car, Pescetti Veloce Turbinara

The oldest car here, with a manual and rear wheel drive. Ease of drive is let down by fixed power steering also.


Ranking Car Drivability Points
1 2020 MD GT1 R240 Silverstone 86.4 10
2 2020 AVG 180T 83.5 9.26
3 2009 Valvida Emos VSR 83.5 9.26
4 2012 Mara Xenia 1.6 LRS 82.7 9.06
5 2008 Durendal Tizona RS6 80.1 8.4
6 2010 Waldersee Attache K20K 79.9 8.35
7 2020 Bazard Mauna 78.5 7.99
7 2005 Phénix Alcyone 2500S 76.6 7.51
9 2007 Eltrè Haricot - 1.0A Opentop Facelift 75.7 7.28
10 2020 Pennant Dash I5 74.7 7.02
11 1996 Planar PG40 Genoace XGS Volt 73.3 7.02
12 2005 AMS Acolyte 3.5 GT 73.1 6.62
13 2010 Shenhua Dao 72.8 6.54
14 1991 IP Colibri 2000 GTT-4 72.5 6.46
15 2003 Tatsuo Caldera GT/4 63.8 4.25
16 1994 Cavaliere Nobile Freccia MC 62.7 3.97
17 1988 Axuus Sabre SE 60.8 3.49
18 1990 Famal Myria GTI 57.2 2.57
19 2000 Rhania Preserver Type-B UN spec 56.5 2.39
20 1979 Voltari Minerva 3.0S 55 2.01
21 1981 Joliette Duchesse S2 Turbo 53.8 1.70
22 1978 Pescetti Veloce Turbinara 47.1 0


Current scoreboard

Position Car Score Change
1 2005 AMS Acolyte 3.5 GT 37.96 +1
2 2020 MD GT1 R240 Silverstone 37.92 +5
3 2008 Durendal Tizona RS6 37.63 +1
4 2010 Waldersee Attachhe K20K 37.28
5 2010 Shenhua Dao 35.02 +1
6 1979 Voltari Minerva 3.0S 34.26 -5
7 1991 IP Colibri 2000 GTT-4 31.74 +1
8 1981 Joliette Duchesse S2 Turbo 31.62 -5
9 2005 Phenix Alcyone 2500S 30.4
10 2009 Valvida Emos VSR 28.07 +2
11 2003 Tatsuo Caldera GT/4 26.97 -1
12 2020 Bazard Mauna 25.95 +2
13 1988 Axuus Sabre SE 22.47 -2
14 1994 Cavaliere Nobile Freccia MC 21.03 +1
15 2007 Eltre Haricot - 1.0A Opentop Facelift 20.97 +1
16 2020 AVG 180T 19.71 +2
17 1978 Pescetti Veloce Turbinara 18.28 -4
18 1996 Planar PG40 Genoace XGS Volt 17.99 -1
19 1990 Famal Myria GTI 12.49
20 2020 Pennant Dash I5 9.55
21 2012 Mara Xenia 1.6 LRS 7
22 2000 Rhania Preserver Type-B UN spec -6.76

Some big changes in this round, only one ten point round left which is purchase price. There is one outlier there which will probably shake things up.

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Purchase price, Ten points


Cheapest car, Famal Myria GTI

This car manages to completely destroy the scoring for this round by being so unbelievably cheap ($8820). It’s not much over half of the mean score, and $2000 cheaper than the next cheapest car along.


Most expensive car, AMS Acolyte 3.5GT

The only car to use up all of the budget in this challenge,luckily for the AMS the Famal is so cheap basically no one scores well here.


Ranking Car Purchase price Points
1 1990 Famal Myria GTI 8820 10
2 2007 Eltrè Haricot - 1.0A Opentop Facelift 10934 7.70
3 1991 IP Colibri 2000 GTT-4 13144.5 5.29
4 2012 Mara Xenia 1.6 LRS 13356 5.06
5 2003 Tatsuo Caldera GT/4 13703 4.68
6 1978 Pescetti Veloce Turbinara 13825 4.55
7 2008 Durendal Tizona RS6 15678 2.53
8 2009 Valvida Emos VSR 15800 2.40
9 1988 Axuus Sabre SE 16055 2.12
10 1996 Planar PG40 Genoace XGS Volt 16302 1.85
11 2010 Waldersee Attache K20K 16480 1.66
12 1979 Voltari Minerva 3.0S 16770 1.34
13 2020 AVG 180T 16800 1.31
14 2020 Bazard Mauna 17200 0.87
15 2010 Shenhu Dao 17200 0.87
16 2005 Phénix Alcyone 2500S 17250 0.82
17 2020 MD GT1 R240 Silverstone 17800 0.22
18 1981 Joliette Duchesse S2 Turbo 17860 0.15
19 2000 Rhania Preserver Type-B UN spec 17884 0.13
20 2020 Pennant Dash I5 17900 0.11
21 1994 Cavaliere Nobile Freccia MC 17940 0.07
22 2005 AMS Acolyte 3.5GT 18000 0


Current scoreboard

Position Car Score Change
1 2008 Durendal Tizona RS6 40.16 +2
2 2010 Waldersee Attache K20K 38.94 +2
3 2020 MD GT1 R240 Silverstone 38.14 -1
4 2005 AMS Acolyte 3.5 GT 37.96 -3
5 1991 IP Colibri 2000 GTT-4 37.03 +2
6 2010 Shenhua Dao 35.89 -1
7 1979 Voltari Minerva 3.0S 35.6 -1
8 1981 Joliette Duchesse S2 Turbo 31.77
9 2003 Tatsuo Caldera GT/4 31.65 +2
10 2005 Phenix Alcyone 2500S 31.22 -1
11 2009 Valvida Emos VSR 30.47 -1
12 2007 Eltre Haricot - 1.0A Opentop Facelift 28.67 +3
13 2020 Bazard Mauna 26.82 -1
14 1988 Axuus Sabre SE 24.59 -1
15 1978 Pescetti Veloce Turbinara 22.83 +2
16 1990 Famal Myria GTI 22.49 +3
17 1994 Cavaliere Nobile Freccia MC 21.1 -3
18 2020 AVG 180T 21.02 -2
19 1996 Planar PG40 Genoace XGS Volt 19.84 -1
20 2020 Pennant Dash I5 9.66
21 2012 Mara Xenia 1.6 LRS 12.06
22 2000 Rhania Preserver Type-B UN spec -6.63

That’s it for the ten pointers. Next up is running costs over 5000 miles.

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