Looks like 66mazda got stuck, it turned out to be a titanic job for him.
By the way, don’t forget that cars are judged not by design, but by certain parameters, as you said.
You don’t have to test every car.
According to the above rules, 40 cars were to be evaluated in 4 days and shown as a result on 10/31/2021.
I mean, he did check all 40 cars to make sure they’re not breaking the rules.
Chill, we’ll get the full writeup when it’s ready.
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Hey now, these aren’t the 15-fixture cars they were judging when those rules were written. Mazda is simply writing some reviews and balancing that task with his own real-life tasks.
If you want to ask for a progress report or update on how the reviews are coming along, please do so in a less passive-aggressive manner.
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Just be patient and stop being a damn pansy for Christ’s sake.
Sound’s like my ex-girlfriend assuming everything when things aren’t to what you expect.
And from what I know, reviews are coming along, says he’ll finish writing them up today or tomorrow. Updates are expected this weekend. Also I’m spending 10-12 hour days 6 days a week, 300ft up a damn Wind Turbine Generator installing ground cables in blades. My PC is in California while I’m in Missouri. We involved an extra helper to help with the judging and reviews while I’m away.
I recently did buy a new laptop to try helping the boys out when I have the time to do so.
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Can we all just calm down and not resort to name calling please? Mazda has promised not to repeat history, so we have to give him the benefit of doubt. So far judging is being stretched out a bit compared to the strictest of CSR rules, but nothing egregious yet, so we can still remain optimistic to a positive resolution of the challenge. But, given Mazda’s history, the mod team has promised to keep an eye on things and invoke CSR rules if and when necessary to make the round end through a community vote. We are not there yet.
So for people impatient, rest assured that the situation is being monitored, and nagging is counter productive. If things go awry, it will be dealt with.
For people involved in judging, please accept that there is a well-documented history, and help with dispelling people’s justified concern instead of name calling and indignation.
Just my two cents… and from now I’ll take my own advice that I have for all bystanders, and will remain a bystander, and not derail the thread further.
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CSR142 Part 2
Tier 3 Mechanic’s Rejection bins, part 1 prequel
Random garage in California
10am
“Hey Jason! I heard you were looking to get a bigger car?” remarked the mechanic as Jason parked his Kaizen FC22 in the garage.
“Hi Thomas,” responded Jason. “I am indeed in the market for a new car? I thought I would stop by for your opinions.”
“Sure thing!”
Blue Star 111
“You know the story of Blue Star right? Well, after a short-seller released a very damaging report on his company, the feds did an investigation on their own and have just charged the founder with securities fraud. The SEC also filed its own civil charges against him too. Blue Star had a promise of building a more sustainable and affordable “luxury car” for the future, whatever that is. Anyways, what the government alleges is that he deliberately misled investors into believing that their first car, the Blue Star 111, was entering production soon when he knew well that the project had barely made any progress past the brainstorming stage. In addition, the several prototypes he exhibited at the major auto shows to prove his progress was discovered to be merely “show cars,” barely functional and cobbled from donor cars with a smattering of parts. For example, they had two salvaged Suzuki 1.1L motorcycle engines welded together and jury-rigged to a single-overhead-cam valvetrain and two turbochargers just for the sake of it, and a junk 4-speed manual transmission that didn’t even work. Anyways, once the investors, many of who had no prior trading experience, knew of the disaster that befell them, it was too late. Some of them claim that they lost entire retirement savings because of this scheme.”
“oh dear…”
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“it turned out to be a titanic job for him”
Get the “titanic job” of submitting a proper car to CSR done right, and then we can talk.
But you got the “titanic job” of making such a bad car done so right, so nice job I guess?
This car was so bad that I could not justify it existing in the actual marketplace, and thus had to create a special dishonorable mention post for this. I honestly don’t even know where to start from this, as all of the fundamental components were just done wrong…for example, all steel body on frame construction, overly stiff suspension, and cheap corner-cutting in areas like brakes and safety. But what really drove me crazy was the engine…a 2.2L SOHC 32 valve 60 degree V8, bolted to two turbochargers, and running a super leaned out 86 AKI air-fuel mixture. Output? 128.3 hp and 134.8 lbft. Oh and it cuts off at 5k RPM cause the creator felt like it.
bruh
next section coming asap
Auxio AQ500 by @Aaron.W (the black car)
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lmao 2.2L v8 making only128.3hp?
damn that’s pretty hard to get that little hp from a turboed v8
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Some serious dedication/s
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Even a 2.2 NA inline 4 would’ve done better!! LMAO!!!
On mine I’ve used turbo for torque and fuel efficiency so my peak power isn’t great but I’ve got 100Nm/L of torque from 1700rpm and I peak at 600Nm at 3500rpm and I’m close to 27% of fuel efficiency!!
Please @kalan,your car is so bad, tell us you’re a troll!! 
And if he isn’t?
Are you gonna help him get better or just continue to laugh at him?
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600 nm? The test didn’t say that I had to build some kind of beast, so I optimized the car as much as possible to increase my chances of winning.
And just because my car isn’t very good, that doesn’t mean I can’t build a better one. And no, I’m not a troll, so you won’t get that kind of fun reaction from me, no matter how much you wait.
Let’s wait for VenaSera to finally come to California and determine the long-awaited results.
I think in PM I will give him advices if he wants to!
Hidden pile of words
When I started, I was not used to car building and I did mistakes. I’ve been softly publicly shamed so I corrected some stuff.
But sometimes you have to compare and see if your build makes sense.
I mean a few oddities is alright but do not push limits!
66mazda gives his time to judge this challenge, if every people sends nonsense builds he will need a good sense of humour to not feel disrespected.
A first advice for you @kalan, if the theme is a luxury car try to have a 200+ score on this demographic to give you a solid base!
Then, some of the solutions you used could have been correct in isolation to each other, I think about ladder chassis or V8 or turbo small unit but you did counter-productive choices!
To finish, being a bit shaken hasn’t done wrong to anyone, I am not expecting you to play any role but to present something where you’ve put a bit of reflexion in. You’re not De Coubertin, if you enter a challenge it’s because you expect to win or getting a good position at least don’t you?
All of us expect you to build a better car so we can have fun with you not of you! Close battles are always more fun than leaving every one in the dust.
I’ll make a confidence, I do not expect mine to get any laurels in this challenge and having made fun of your build puts me in the spot lights so I expect the judges not to be tender with me BUT I always follow my convictions about building a car while following what’s been done in real life.
By the way my reaction was matching your level of making a fool of 66mazda concerning its delay of judging compared to your entry. We all have a life outside the internet.
About the 600Nm, it’s a by-product. I always try to go for 100Nm/L as low as possible in the rev range
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btw probably could use a 5+speed automatic for a luxury car
spend some time to make one of my own, and i got double the hp with some simple tuning
edit:
i am not joking, i tripled the hp, yes, 3 times the horsepower. now it only have some turbo lag and bad fuel economy
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it’s not that hard to make one, i only spend like 14mins on the engine
you probably could do even better
btw, I don’t get why use only 91 ron when the rules said you could use 95 ron
so come on, I know you can do better than 128.3hp with this engine.
use low frction cast if u want some more fuel eco, use ball bearing too if u use turbo, vvt could help too, and use vvl, it could save your engine a lot, both in eco and hp, using a different fuel type wouldn’t affect the cost too, if u are using 4v per cylinder, use DOHC instead of SOHC
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As usual, I’m very much willing to help with the engineering if anyone needs it - I’ve spent probably the majority of the time with this game by playing with that, especially engine tuning. All it takes is asking by PM if you want 
@kalan
But, there’s a note to be made about CSR - it’s probably the most competitive challenge here, and thus hosts (and others) usually expect pretty high level of everything. If one enters anything short of the best you can find on the forum, then unfavourable judging is to be expected.
In short - CSR is “Automation Challenge: Prepare to Die Edition” 
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I remember my first CSR.
smh…all bad lol.
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These are mostly excerpts from the conversation Jason had with his mechanic, who also works for a TV show that reviews new cars.
CSR142 Part 2
Tier 3 Mechanic’s Rejection bins, part 1
“Anyways, moving on from that disaster scam…”
Deleu-Mathers 1610 V8
“The car cannot decide whether it wants to be a drag special or a luxury cruiser. However, for the latter, which we request, you have to be able to turn. Neither the numb steering nor its questionable dynamics give a good impression. It also lacks dual frontal airbags, and I think it’s reasonable to expect that a car of this price range would have them. Oh and I absolutely think they are a nightmare to work on”
Verdict: Tier 3 bin.
Leighton Chronos aLX
“This car looks like a grandpa in reading glasses, and looks about that it has been designed by one. That’s not where the similarities end… take speed for example. Its outdated 3L V6 is woefully outgunned by the competition’s V8s and V12s. It also does not have dual frontal airbags. This is definitely not the car for you, as it’s way too soft. Also, I know you’re not cheap for the sake of it.”
Verdict: Tier 3 bin.
Altra XCv 3.6 Air-Ride
“You know, sometimes I wonder where you get your car advice from. Isn’t this a bit too mainstream for the segment? Regardless of that, I think it’s a reasonably competitive car if you can get above its sloppy handling and grabby brakes, neither of which you’ll like. At least it’s built reasonably well, with a reasonably punchy engine and good appointments, even if parts are a bit hard to come by. Still not sure if air suspension is really necessary.”
Verdict: Tier 3 bin.
Sovaine Athena LSE
“For something named after the goddess of wisdom, there are too many unwise choices. Namely, the poorly tuned turbocharged V6 engine that is unusually prone to failure, ineffective brakes, numb steering, and poorly matched tires. Also, it’s just plain overpriced for what you get, a smattering of parts that sound good by themselves but aren’t integrated together well. Wise to not buy this piece of junk.”
Verdict: Tier 3 bin.
IP Icarus 3000 GLT
“Just like its namesake, this car has a tendency to fail under heat. In the myths, it was the wings, here it is the brakes. You gonna go crashing down either way, along with your wallet. Oh, and the turbo V6 engine spools longer than a crane winch, and still likes to throw faults quite often. No thanks. It had so much potential, but could never go the last mile. Also they’re prone to disintegrating, which is a bit unusual for a Swedish car.”
Verdict: Tier 3 bin.
Frogeye Scorpio 24V
“If, and only if, you can get past the styling, this is actually a solid contender. It’s reasonably comfortable, powerful, and composed, and they hold up well in the real world. That V8’s bank angle raised quite a few eyebrows here though when we first tested it, we thought they were trying to save costs by sharing it across several different cars. Though I think overall braking is poor and judging from your reaction, that’s enough to drag it out of your recommendation list. Well, that’s a shame… Still you should try it out.”
Verdict: Moves on
Deer And Hunt Tines Grand Baltimore MKII
“This car is well out of place here, and for all the bad reasons. While a reasonably stout body-on-frame construction and solid rear axle aren’t anything to scoff at by themselves, they put it at a major disadvantage compared to the competition, especially in the areas of performance and comfort. Despite its simple construction, its reliability isn’t mythical, and several more modern cars have proven to be superior in that regard. Fortunately, they’re reasonably well built. However…its safety record is among the worst of all new cars sold here, not having the latest suite of safety features hurts it heavily. Also, being a larger car does bring its own share of higher servicing costs too. One thing I heard about the Grand Baltimore was that Deer and Hunt were forced to severely detune the massive 6.5L V10 engine to meet emissions standards. Still, that doesn’t take away from its personality as a laid-back cruiser, after all, 290 hp isn’t the worst, especially when you got this much low-end torque. But then again, you’re not exactly looking for a cruiser this laid back right?”
Verdict: Tier 3 bin.
Quezon Laguna VST
“The Filipinos really know how to make a pretty car, and there is no doubt that the Laguna will feel right at home among upscale cars. Unfortunately, it masks the fatal flaw of steel panels, which means that durability is going to be a major issue, even if quality compares favorably to the Japanese. Still, the idea of a watered-down sports sedan is very tantalizing indeed, and it comes with the latest technologies, such as a trick AWD system that can modulate power depending on the driving conditions and optional 4-wheel steering. But this might actually be a bit too sporty for your tastes, though I think it nails a good balance of performance and luxury. Hell, it comes with expensive performance rubber, an expense that you wouldn’t really appreciate anyways. Maybe a better expense would be a full suite of safety features. The 276hp twin-turbocharged V6 is about as good as you can get, but will always be at a major disadvantage when compared to a V8.”
Verdict: Tier 3 bin.
Kerberos D443
“Again, like the Quezon, this one attempts to inject a bit more fizz into your daily commute, though I reckon it injects way too much fuel into its 284hp 4.3L V8 engine. In all honestly, there isn’t anything inherently wrong with it, if you gloss over the lack of common safety features and the abysmal, barely road-legal brakes. On the plus side, servicing it won’t burn your wallet completely, even if it comes with pricey sports tires as standard, and build quality is pretty good. My personal opinion? It’s too compromised as a sports sedan and makes some mistakes as a luxury sedan. Pass.”
Verdict: Tier 3 bin.
Stilesi 6L
“These things are surprisingly pleasant to be in, though I question if you’d want to drive this thing for long. The setup chosen for the tires and brakes can only be described as…wack, grabby, and out of balance. Also, there’s a reason Michelin TRX tires have long gone out of fashion. I continue to believe that hydropneumatic suspensions and other similar systems are an unnecessary cost and that aluminum bodies will be hell to repair.”
Verdict: Tier 3 bin.
Alba SS7 3.2 T6
“This car has a few peculiarities, including a well-tuned 254hp 3.2L turbocharged inline 6, an unusual AWD system, and terrible brakes. Regarding that AWD system, I’m not even sure how Alba managed to get that power distribution, and my impression was that it gave it a sluggish, front-heavy feeling. Also, the ride is a bit jarring for a luxury car. Would not recommend.”
Verdict: Tier 3 bin.
Ecyor Sllor Sechs
“Honestly there’s a reason you never ever see these things. It looks like an RC car from Best Buy and is about as reliable as one. With a good array of modern technology (except the safety of course…), this is a good lesson on something that looks good on paper but is absolutely pathetic in real life. Just look at the “powerful” and poorly set up engine that will never be able to use its full 316hp ever, and the aluminum body panels that will be extraordinarily hard to repair.”
Verdict: Tier 3 bin.
MAHG Sigma Prestige 4 GT
“Honestly quite incredible that MAHG found it fitting to get a literal truck engine, turbocharge it, and shoehorn it in the front of a passenger car. Sure, with 5 liters and 361 hp under your command, having a wide powerband is nice, and having AWD helps it consistently pull away from the line in a hurry. But its immense weight, combined with the haphazard tuning of the AWD system completely wrecks the handling dynamics and braking by completely overloading the front tires and brakes. They’re an absolute pain to work on, cause you can access nothing, and you can get better features for its high price, including a but not limited to a V8 engine and dual frontal airbags. Not even MAHG’s complicated suspension design can compensate for the sheer lack of composure. On the other hand, they’re among the best-built cars sold here.”
Verdict: Tier 3 bin.
AT-Stellar
"Oh, these things. They just issued a recall for improperly manufactured pistons. But even if we get over that, it’s not a good value for money, even if it has a powerful 341hp 4L V10 that offers good all-around performance. It lacks features that one might expect for this kind of car, such as dual frontal airbags, yet it slathers on things I see as unnecessary, such as hydropneumatic suspension, Michelin TRX tires, and electric power steering. "
Verdict: Tier 3 bin.
Wells
“They must really be proud of this car to call it the Wells. Well, I think they need to reconsider that thought. First, the engine, while reasonably good, runs a bit too rich for its own good. Second, it’s not entirely the most pleasant car to be in. For example, the brakes are far too grabby yet offer terrible performance, I’m not a fan of its steering system, and it has a suspension that really likes to transmit small bumps to the interior. It’s a good effort, but I know there are much better cars out there.”
Verdict: Tier 3 bin.
Kaufmann Gestalt 380
“As always, you can count on the legendary Kaufmann brand to deliver almost the ideal car. The Gestalt 380 ranks among the most competitive cars in its class, featuring a bulletproof, well-engineered combination of sturdiness, performance, and luxury. Even the cost of buying and maintaining it is reasonable. The reason I said almost in the beginning, was that I don’t think the brakes will work at all under your pretty aggressive driving. But it’s still something that you should try for yourself. Also, I would be lying if I said that I was the biggest fan of their new styling.”
Verdict: Moves on.
Quadra Intruder SC2
“A well-engineered, expertly built, and traditional American car on fat tires. Everything, from its 261hp 4.5L V8, well-calibrated transmission and suspension, and good interior appointments is integrated well together to create a compelling package that, at below $40,000, is a cracking value for money.”
Verdict: Moves on.
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I agree that the V6 is an unreliable unit but did the export screw up the brakes in some way? When looking at the car now, it has 0% driveability/utility brake fade and 0.9% sportiness, it doesn’t really feel like a disaster to me? 
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