If you know what you’re looking for, this website can really help you to design a realistic car.
https://www.automobile-catalog.com/
Examples
1972 Pontiac GTO
1972 Ford Mustang Mach 1
1972 Dodge Challenger
1972 Oldsmobile Cutlass 442
1972 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
Furthermore, I advise Automation car designers to read this topic writen by @titleguy1
Can’t access the automobile catalog site. Any alternatives?
Wikipedia, incredibly useful yet underrated
CSR is about real cars. Using things just for the stats on the game is what we call minmaxing. The companies didnt know the oilcrisis would happen, why they would care about some years earlier? And fibre glass is about cars made in low numbers. Reasonsble but still real choices here is the key. Btw its a good way to learn How to proper make real cars and etc. Getting piss about binning is not the way.
And well, its quite Sad that designs such as the one from mat and nikon were binned
This round is set in 1972, but the oil crisis wouldn’t begin for another year, which defeats the point of going all-in on fuel economy and sacrificing everything else. And transversely mounted engines would not be common in American mid-sized and full-sized cars until the 80s or so.
Phew, i didn’t get binned.
That and Google ends up covering most of my questions
It’s a lot easier to write 4 lines of restrictions than expect 50 people to do an hour of research in to a limited appeal sub-category of vehicles.
One that’s a British sports car that still meets his requirements. If everybody just copy-pastes a Mustang and calls it a day, how is that any fun?
The rules are there to call a hard limit, if something you won’t accept fits then maybe you didn’t actually test that the rules were appropriate.
This is the biggest problem. When you make wishy-washy but strict rules then people will tend to play it safe. It’s a competition; if you can’t take risks to make a winning car then it’s dull.
A few things: there’s a period of time when this round was posted when you give feedback on the rules. Yet you only complain about them after being binned. Not to mention it’s not the host’s job to make sure you read the context of what the round is about, if you misunderstood it, refer to my first point of that period of time to give the host feedback. Also if you take the risk to be different also expect the risk of being binned early. Simple enough.
Aka, I don’t like putting any effort when engineering my car. I’ll keep that in mind.
I’d argue. Even if it was, not a good one.
Trust me when I say this, all top 11 cars from my CSR were unconventional in one way or another. I know what you’re saying. Are you sure that you know about what you’re saying?
I know this challenge is done and all but I keep wondering where people are getting the gremlin body? I can’t seem to find it.
Talking about creating rules, I’m not an expert, but the CSR is a character driven challenge, this one being an american guy.
You can see your banning as an injust use of un-written rules, or as a case where this good ol’ guy woudn’t buy your car because it’s too unconventional for the time
Alright can we stop and just see how the round plays out? I’ve seen what…55 CSR rounds by now and this one looks like a perfectly normal round rules wise. This stuff is supposed to be fun and the salt just brings everyone down including the host who is putting in a lot of work for you all.
cough CSR 94 cough
There was nothing to complain about because the rules didn’t explicitly ban good design. Nobody wants to be treated like they’re illiterate when the host didn’t specify restrictions.
I entered a Japanese car by a sporting-focused Japanese company tailored for Americans. Please point to the bit that bans foreign cars and foreign car design. It’s within the realms of realism for a Japanese company to not make a shitty scrap heap.
Let’s also bare in mind that I don’t care if I’m last place because he likes everything else better, the problem is him getting mad when people followed the rules he wrote, not the ones he didn’t.
I like to make cars that work, I’m not going to make a live axle rebodied truck when the rules allow an Americanised Chaser.
At least that would be a legitimate grievance.
I’m saying your mates know what you like, doesn’t mean you can write.
I’ll stick with this. I’d have no problem with him going “Muricans don’t drive jap crap!” as it’s perfectly in character, but no American has gone “5 GEARS?! THAT’S UNACCEPTABLE!!”
So… I am actually retarded. I was sure that I’ve mirrored antena, I was sure that door handle fixture has keyhole on it’s weird frame thing, I thought that 8s 0-100kph was the fastest you could go because of semi-realism stuff. At the end I really enjoyed this CSR and I am waiting to see what’s the final vehicle of choice. To anyone not understanding critique of their work. Just calm down. You made mistake, you were told you made mistake, you would propably do better in the next CSR.
Here’s a some advice for you, and this is life advice, not just CSR/ automation advice:
No one thinks you’re illiterate when you ask for clarification. It’s literally getting more information that may have actually been too obscure. But if you don’t ask and enter something off and complain that it was correct, people will think you are illiterate.
Actually research your points before talking like you know everything, it might sound smart in your head but you can be making a huge fool out of yourself.
And lastly, Learn to take some criticism and control your ego. It’s your choice to take this advice or not. We could repeat this again in a few week’s time possibly or you could learn. Your choice.
You ordered a 1970s realistic American muscle shitbox and that’s what you got, so I found it odd for you to complain about wheelspin. In any case the design was bleh, not my forte so I agree with you there.
Edit: Don’t think I’m trashing you or salty like some persons here. I get that CSR is heavily based on personal preferences and is such a subjective competition. I also appreciate the time you took to organize and create this competition, so me or anyone else doesn’t have the right to tell you how to run your round, as NOBODY IS ENTITLED TO BE A PART OF IT.
I think a lot of people forget that nobody is obligated to critique their designs in any of these competitions. The community here creates these competitions on their own time and it usually involves a lot of work. So people really need to chill the hell out and appreciate that we have them instead of bitching FFS!
If everybody just copy-pastes a Mustang and calls it a day, how is that any fun?
That’s kind of the point though? Realistic muscle cars with period accurate engineering and design and inspired by cars in real life. What’s the point of a competition where everyone gets to be a winner, anyone can submit anything?
The rules are there to call a hard limit, if something you won’t accept fits then maybe you didn’t actually test that the rules were appropriate.
No, rules are there to weed out uncompetitive entires. The task as to make a car which people of the era would have actually bought. This isn’t it. Again, not everybody gets to be a inner and there need to be standards in period correct realism.
This is the biggest problem. When you make wishy-washy but strict rules then people will tend to play it safe. It’s a competition; if you can’t take risks to make a winning car then it’s dull.
Is playing it safe a bad thing?
Also what exactly about that hilariously poorly designed and unrealistic meme car designed by somebody with little knowledge of automotive engineering, makes it a “winning car?”