it’s a SUV! you are 15 years ahead of time on the mom mobile market!!
[quote=“Absurdist”]Haha didn’t think of that. 
Ace
On your car, how excessive is excessively built exactly? I am curious.[/quote]
edit:Bottom end +4, top end +4, fuel +3, exhaust +2
Transmission +3, Brakes +1, Aero +2, Interior +2, Driver assists +3, Safety +2, suspension +1
Body +1, Frame +1, fixtures +1
So the whole car is over engineered.
I thought about using that body, but I couldn’t get the cost and performances to work out.
[quote=“SeriousSimon”]Yeah, I’ve noticed the same thing happening. Must be a bug…
Will show my car here as soon as Vic has checked and approved it.[/quote]
Yes, Vic knows about it, he clicks a few tabs to get things to settle out.
This is why I click through the tabs before actually marking down the scores, because there are a couple things that have to “settle in”, so to speak.
Even the pre-steam version did this with Aero specifically. You always had to click the cooling tab down then up once to get the values to calculate properly.
SUV’s weren’t “popular” as “family” vehicles until the early 90’s true, but they DID exist. See: Ford Bronco, Chevrolet Suburban, Dodge Ramcharger.
I will say from what I’ve seen so far is that there is MASSIVE variety in how you all are tackling this challenge. It’s great! 
[quote=“VicVictory”]
This is why I click through the tabs before actually marking down the scores, because there are a couple things that have to “settle in”, so to speak.
Even the pre-steam version did this with Aero specifically. You always had to click the cooling tab down then up once to get the values to calculate properly.
SUV’s weren’t “popular” as “family” vehicles until the early 90’s true, but they DID exist. See: Ford Bronco, Chevrolet Suburban, Dodge Ramcharger.
I will say from what I’ve seen so far is that there is MASSIVE variety in how you all are tackling this challenge. It’s great! [/quote]
the guy invented the Cherokee 4 years earlier! the first propper not so utilitarian SUV, dont say it haves a 4L inline 6!!!
[quote=“victorgarcia”]
This is why I click through the tabs before actually marking down the scores, because there are a couple things that have to “settle in”, so to speak.
Even the pre-steam version did this with Aero specifically. You always had to click the cooling tab down then up once to get the values to calculate properly.
SUV’s weren’t “popular” as “family” vehicles until the early 90’s true, but they DID exist. See: Ford Bronco, Chevrolet Suburban, Dodge Ramcharger.
I will say from what I’ve seen so far is that there is MASSIVE variety in how you all are tackling this challenge. It’s great!
the guy invented the Cherokee 4 years earlier! the first propper not so utilitarian SUV, dont say it haves a 4L inline 6!!![/quote]
The first gen Jeep Cherokee 1974-1983, and it was based on the Wagoner which started production in 1963.
Edit to add en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_util … le#History
Apparently by todays definition they go back to 1935 with the Chevrolet Carryall Suburban
Honestly, what it reminded me of more than any of those was a Range Rover.
The Northern Motor Company has decided to enter this competition.
I present the Selkirk Estate, with it’s large cargo area and 3 liter cast iron straight 6.
Sorry, Trackpaduser. The slots all filled up before you submitted. Perhaps next ime.
ENTRIES ARE CLOSED. Those of you who are in on the first page who still want to show off your cars coughSIMONcough should do so now. I will post results in the next day or so, too tired to do so tonight.
Daiki Automotive enters the competition with the 1980 Stardust L:
The car is powered by a turbocharged 3 litter cast iron inline 6 engine, producing over 200mn of torque at 3100RPM.
Romanov proudly presents the “Katusha”.
The Katusha stands for classic values. Families that need to transport their groceries (Vodka, Kartofel’, Kapusta) from Babushka’s village to their flat in the city with a carpet nailed to the wall, find everything they need in the Katusha.
Equipped with a newly developed 2.2 liter 4 cylinder iron curtain… eh block, the Katusha will get you where you need to go… in style.
Now with powerful steering, which our engineers stol… received in exchange for other technical developments from the USSR.
[size=150]На здоровье![/size]
(European version with an actual interior will follow in approximately three years!)
Liking the style of the Neptune 424 and Katusha - this competition has a lot of nifty designs!
Also, condolences to trackpaduser. I was busy from Friday when this started through Sunday evening, and I was feeling really nervous about whether I’d be able to make an entry at all in time, just because the slots were filling up so quickly.
[quote=“Packbat”]Liking the style of the Neptune 424 and Katusha - this competition has a lot of nifty designs!
Also, condolences to trackpaduser. I was busy from Friday when this started through Sunday evening, and I was feeling really nervous about whether I’d be able to make an entry at all in time, just because the slots were filling up so quickly.[/quote]
I think Vic has really hit a good balance on these challenges, nothing super complicated, quick, easy and fun. This is not to say I dont like the other challenges but these are nice in how fast they go and the variety of what is submitted. Cant wait for the next one, just doubt I can do any after next week since I will be on vacation.
Alright, here we go with the results for the 1980 Family Haulers competition!
Noted deductions or bonuses are already calculated in the final score. The benchmark would have taken 5th place, just barely edged out in the last couple entries. For reference, the top four scored 9568, 9901, 10235, and 10771 points respectively.
Without further ado…
24th - Daiki Stardust - 3.0L Turbo I6/4MT RWD - “Bring an extra gas can and a fire extinguisher.” - 5 deductions, 6926 pts
23rd - Mars Engineering Redarius - 3.0L V8/4AT FWD - “Screw the gas can. Bring a whole new engine.” - 5 deductions, 7681 pts
22nd - PolMot 8-2 - 2.0L V8/4AT RWD - “As refined as a bowl of gravel. Also, radio optional.” - 1 deduction, 7879 pts
21st - Rado Carrier - 2.0L I4/4AT FWD - “Towing the Titanic with a rowboat might be faster.” - 5 deductions, 7930 pts
20th - Brooke Avant Deluxe - 1.8L Turbo I6/4AT RWD - “Your friends will envy all the fine parts that fall off at random.” - 4 deductions, 8517
19th - Garcia C280 - 2.3L I6/5MT RWD - “Fast, smooth, and nimble. But can’t even carry a bicycle. Or two bags of groceries.” - 5 deductions, 8555 pts
18th - Infinity AD21 - 1.6L I4/4MT RWD - “WATCH MY 71 HORSEPOWER BURNOUT!” - 8586 pts
17th - Bogliq Bastion - 2.5L I4/5MT FWD - “Moldovan Luxury: Fine interior details, coupled with a crappy underpowered engine and manual gearbox.” - 5 deductions, 8684 pts
16th - Fuentes Progression Estate - 2.1L I6/4AT FWD - “As reliable as your local crackhead, but at least prettier.” - 5 deductions, 8731 pts
15th - Ossan Prince Edward GLC - 2.2L I6/4AT FWD - “Can’t even road rage in it.” - 3 deductions, 8770 pts
14th - Marks Patron Ising - 1.0L Turbo FP V8/3AT RWD - “A fun car for the couch potato lifestyle.” - 8874 pts
13th - LHE Famsed - 1.7L Turbo I4/4AT RWD - “It’s like a Baltazar Quark on drugs. But with the manners of a pissed off wildebeest.” - 1 BONUS, 8941 pts
12th - NMC Eagle Deluxe - 3.0L I6/4AT RWD - “Boxier than a container ship. Except it can’t really hold any boxes.” - 9028 pts
11th - PAW Pteropus RC - 1.6L I4/4AT FWD - “It will bore you to death forever.” - 9043 pts
10th - Ponni Caricatore - 3.0L I6/5MT RWD - “Comfortable, handy, and looks like a giant turd. What CAN brown do for you?” - 9095 pts
9th - Centauri Knight Royal Estate - 3.0L I6/4AT RWD - “Children, cattle, or cement bags. It really doesn’t care what you shove in it.” - 9151 pts
8th - DMA F80 - 2.3L I4/4AT RWD - “You’ll stop more frequently a gas stations for snacks than actual gas.” - 5 deductions, 9239 pts
7th - DM Rangipo - 3.0L I6/4AT RWD - “Try to ignore all the jolts and clunks from the transmission. It’ll hold together… we hope.” - 9274 pts
6th - Astana Cosmos - 2.2L I4/4AT FWD - “The wagon for the off-roading urbanite. Now with manual locking FWD differential.” - 9397 pts
5th - Lightstar Neptune 424 - 2.4L I4/4AT RWD - “Your mechanic will love you for this. I saw him boat shopping the other day.” - 2 deductions, 9497 pts
(Benchmark) - Ardent Chancellor LS - 2.8L I6/4AT RWD - “Euro snobbery and American attitude. The worst of both worlds.” - 5 deductions, 9540 pts
Which leaves your top 4, in ALPHABETICAL order, as:
Baltazar Kashmir 3.0, FMU Pampero Rural, Romanov Katusha, and Znopresk Zanzibar.
Some interesting tidbits from the competition…
Best drivability: Baltazar
Worst drivability: Rado
Sportiest: Garcia
Least sporty (tie): Znopresk and Rado
Most comfortable - Ossan
Least comfortable - PolMot
Safest - Lightstar
Least safe - Centauri
Most practical - Znopresk
Least practical - NMC
Most reliable - Romanov
Least reliable - Ossan
Most economical - DMA
Least economical - Daiki
Most expensive - Daiki
Cheapest - LHE
Cheapest maintenance - Romanov
Costliest maintenance - Mars
I’ll be working on the reviews for the Top 4 over the next few days. Congrats to the winners!
Aaand this is what happens if we try to combine “high torque”, “1980” and “family car” into one. At least I’ve sacrificed myself for everyone else…
edit; The newer grades (“A” and “B”) of Stardust Sedan has a smaller engine and AT to fix the fuel economy now. The car on fire? It should be resolved since the car is now heavier than before, including the “L” grade.
HEY!! I did much better than I thought!! I also stole the transmission from a Ford, I think I used an E4OD as the benchmark and shot lower
I just lol’d while reading that. 
10th place is what I was expecting from the car, so I’m happy with it.
For those who were wondering how a turd looks like, here it’s:
It’s like the typical Jalopnik car, a brown, rear-wheel drive diesel manual transmission wagon. 
[size=120]I can’t wait for the next challenge![/size]
I have a thing for brown cars, because of early chldhood memories of a chocolate brown Mercedes.
Lovely car and shows nicely that no matter how many points one gets in Vic’s competition, it doesn’t do anything to the fact how many awesome cars were created here!
Thanks to Vic and everyone who participates!
On a sidenote: Romanov is again proud to have cracked the top 4, to celebrate this we give out fragrance trees for the first 500 Katushas. Buyers can choose between Sweet Vodka and Smoked Eel.