I like it leo! I’m falling to the dark side and getting back in on the BURNOUT sector (though it pains me, because frankly I care more about all round performance and my i4 will spank those overpowered BURNOUT mobiles around the track for sure). But in reality eco cars that get thrashed attract by far the most speeding tickets!
I made a 3.8L v8 that puts out 355hp… It has a nice flat torque curve thanks to some un-VTEC like magic. But I’m not quite satisfied. Maybe I’ll try the v6 and see what happens.
EDIT: Nope, decided not worth it. There’ll be a population of super high burnout cars but the problem there is due to the arithmetic nature of the calculations and the discrete treatment of each criterion, it just isn’t worth it. So I’ll go for something that will be somewhere along the spectrum between leo’s and the super burnout machines and we’ll see how the balance plays out.
So I decided I’d go with the not-Alfa competitor, except I’d also make it a poor-cousin competitor to the Lancer EVO and Impreza WRX. After all those are the kind of cars that this competition pays homage to, at least, as far as I understand.
Introducing the Excelsior Rosso Corsa*. A premium driving experience at budget price, this car combines decades of finest racing tradition with the advanced technology to deliver power and versatility. The lightweight chassis (read: really bloody flimsy) and pragmatic (read: quite sparse) cabin conveys a focused, intense experience at the limit (that is, pray the car doesn’t fall to pieces while you’re piling it into the corner). Yet this car can seat four and comes with ample storage space. With suspension tuned by racing drivers, the ride is both supple yet responsive, and capable of maximum grip, combined with a unique race-derived aerodynamic ‘no-lift’ system that keeps the car planted to the ground, ensuring even handling at all speeds.
Delivering all the things an enthusiast on a budget, or with a family, would want in a car, this is the car of choice for those looking for something fun and sporty.
Hello All! I’ve been lurking the Automation forums for a little while and decided I’d finally join up. So if it wasn’t evident this is my first competition! I do plan on getting in just before a few others close hopefully, but that’s neither here nor there. I figured I stalked this thread taking bits of wisdom long enough, and sneaking around to appear last second feels dishonest. No offense to anyone on that last second bit intended, but you guys roughly know each other. I being a new guy, who has watched you guys, makes suddenly showing up seem like bad form. Now I only seem like a moderate stalker…mhmm…well…
Like I said I’ve lurked around for a while so I don’t expect to come close to what I’ve seen some of you guys produce. Especially since the day after I signed up I see that Strop has produced a car for this with so much green on the demo-board that I don’t even know what voodoo is being performed . I mean, mine is green too like super green, like in one square…well its a modest green. Anyway, perhaps I’ve spent too much on the engine (probably) and focused way too much on the acceleration (definitely) and I’ve got into a pickle putting my car against you guys. Oh well. I’m just curious to see how it does.
Of course that all rides on it being acceptable. Should it be accepted I’ll put a little brief up that I wrote up. After the comp’s over I’ll probably put it up my design/showroom thread that’ll come out later.
I think I said this in the PM accepting your entry, but welcome to the forums! This is the first competition I’ve run, so it’s pretty thrilling to see that it’s also someone’s first competition to enter.
Welcome Sebesseg! I feel that this is a slightly unpredictable competition due to the spread of factors and the way they’re weighted, but the main message here is that most (all) of us are just here to have a bit of fun making cars that are various degrees of realistic (Also my car may be ‘competitive’ according to the current pool but that has very little bearing on the balance of this particular contest… and I suspect most high displacement high power RWD cars here are going to mainly compete for Muscle car buyers).
Yup you did, but I’m happy to thank you again. As I said in my reply this was an interesting concept that was too intriguing for me to pass up.
Thank you! One of the aspects that drew me to the competition was the relative freedom allowed by the conditions. I agree that this will lead to some unpredictable results and I’m most interested in the wide variation in cars as a result of the freedoms. No worries, like I said I’ve lurked and you guys seem like a good bunch so I’m right there with you in the fun department. I was just poking a little at your car because I honestly wouldn’t have expected that much green. Indeed my car is mostly liked by the muscle car segment so I hope the hoons like that.
I, personally, probably wouldn’t trust the car that I built I went for a Hoon who loves to go fast and (fairly) loud. I sacrificed burn out potential for being able to dash down the road at great speed. I definitely cater to the hoon who loves speed over everything else. That might mean that I miss the mark, but that’s fine. For those interested here is my car and a blurb of embellishment/marketing in a condescending, perhaps clarkson-esque tone. Also pardon the logo not matching the car, It feels wrong not to have a badge on the car, but I know the difficulties with making a badge
Do you have a need for speed? Are you willing to do anything to feel that rush? To drive a car with that spine-breaking, neck-jerking g-force that has no regard for your safety and wants to push you out because you’re weighing it down? Look no further than the Heisler Kardhal Sargossa 323 Track and Sport (T/S). It will take you longer to pronounce the name and explain what it means than to get from 0-100km/h, and that’s no joke.
Just in case you do care enough to learn about what may end up killing you, though, let’s start from the beginning. Heisler is the Hungarian automobile/industrial-equipment division of Luther-FASE (an American multinational automaker) predominately meant to serve as a producer of all types of inexpensive transportation from the humblest of tractors to grittiest of supercars. Heisler started out, pre-WWI, as a maker of the finest French automobiles, because you can do no wrong when you have Hungarians making French cars. Fast forward a couple decades and its making imitation Porsches, off-branded and ruggedized for the leaders of eastern bloc countries, as well as farming implements for the proletariat masses. In 1990, Luther-FASE purchased Heisler and began educating its designers, workers and engineers in standard “American” practices. By 1992 the company was just about ready to start producing its new line-up, starting with a family sedan. Fast forward yet another year and Luther-FASE awards Heisler with a spot in its international line-up with its first task being to create a new “sports” car.
Heisler designers, while having received design training by the American company, had really only ever produced one car that resembled anything like a sports car, the Kardhal. The Kardhal, translating to “Swordfish”, had been a rough (and I mean like the car-industry version of the game ‘telephone’ rough) copy of each equivalent Porsche model. Of course the variation in design was drastic enough to avoid claims of infringement. To be fair, the only people to ever claim they were supposed to Porsches were the factory workers as the company itself supposedly never made such claims, whatever makes you work harder and enjoy doing so. “Sargossa” is named after the Sargasso Sea which is where the swordfish (the actual fish) spawns; with the “O” and “A” transposed because it quote “sounded more Italian, and the Italians make great cars.” “323” is simply the number of horses under the hood, assuming you can reach the peak at redline without blowing the engine. “Track and Sport (T/S)” nominates that this particular variant of the trim is specifically built be the rear-wheel driven hooligan’s dream car, and its comparison to other cars with the words “track” and or “sport” in the title is tenuous at best.
Comfortable, luxurious, well-equipped. These are words. Words that the Kardhal Sargossa 323 T/S doesn’t understand. Fast and demanding are two that it knows in spades. The Kardhal is very mechanical and raw delivering an intense driving experience on both the road and track. It has a tight cabin leaving enough space for you, a person of your choosing (typically a girl, or friend, or perhaps someone you hate and want to punish with an engine delivered punch to the gut) and the shifter in between.
Despite being rough around the edges, the Kardhal delivers a unique experience that will leave a lasting impression. It is perhaps one of the few cars at $12,000 and under able to grant such a wild ride. It’s almost guaranteed to make its driver money from street racing or be involved in some bouts of high speed jaunts to work. Will the hoons, appreciate it for what it is? Its rubber doesn’t burn particularly well and it’s almost as afraid of corners as most American muscle cars, but perhaps the smile on one’s face from having a quarter mile time that would make most Porsches blush is all that matters.
lurking around is no problem… but when you’re like me… maybe it is… or was…
first time i discovered this game… watching people play, watching the races streamed…
i was just so tempted to play. but, to actually buy it is a hassle.
more like to put some money in my steam wallet is complicated, and expensive.
so for the first 2 months i played this game, i was pirating, this was pre-steam merge, so it was relatively easy to pirate.
so my dark past has came out now. but, i finally did bought the game i think early october?
[size=50](and i kinda discovered an exploit. simply demo game = full game+limiter launcher, i just had to find a full game launcher and i got it working fully. im sure it wont work now)[/size]
anywayyyyyy
look at you, first entry and already have a logo.
look at me never even cared about a logo
Nothing to be afraid of, just a little V6.[/quote]
you reminded me of the hatch back i made for the failed challenge,
the touring challenge was it? made a 1.1l V6 FWD. it’s cheap to buy and run, it’s efficient, it’s revvy, it’s powerfull, yet, it’s friendly to everyone.
@Koolkei: I was definitely intrigued when I watched others play and go crazy with building what some might call nonsensical cars, but I will say it was easier for me to buy the game than to hassle with any other way to do it. Not that I judge, because I totally understand its not the case for everyone. Yeah, Hiesler (and its logo) is my most recent creation, but I’ve actually got four others all with logos too. I like having an image to associate with what I’m building, it works for me.
@Madrias: And who doesn’t love a little V6, amirite? Nice car. The second car I built for this comp used the same body, but I went with my third instead with a loss of drivability and comfort, easy come easy go.
Well it was a tough call but I entered the commune… again, I think this is the 4th or 5th contest I’ve designed that car for now, although I went with a version my company would actually build and sell, rather then straight hoon to the max.
Halfway through the competition period, and I have to say I’m actually pretty happy! Y’all have come through with some interesting and varied responses to my prompt, and it’s been fun looking them over and adding them to my spreadsheet. In fact, it’s been fun adding little improvements to my spreadsheet as well - like separate color-coded columns for Raw Desirability and Annualized Cost.
Which suggests to my mind a question: what data would y’all like to see included in the final roundup posts?
At the moment, I was planning to include in the list of cars body styles, engine types (displacement, valvetrain, fuel system, cylinder arrangement), and drive configurations (e.g. FF, FR, MR) along with the net desirability and my own comments, but is there anything else you want me to include (or anything I should leave out)? And are there any particular stats I should record so I can list bests and worsts (e.g. reliability)? Is there anything else you want me to write that I haven’t thought of?
It did not occur to me that setting my competition one year after SOMWOM* would mean that people would recycle their vehicles from there, but I approve of this trend.
[size=85]* …why is it SOMWOM instead of SOMWOS? “Sunday” starts with an “S”, not an “M”.[/size]
[size=75]Yeah I thought the same thing but you know, best not to rock the boat now haha[/size]
I couldn’t recycle my car, the Fore GTi. It’d just be too slow for the job, although I have to say it did have very nearly enough power and a half decent 0-100 time. But the one I submitted is a better hoon car than that… I think.
Presenting the 1994 LHE Astonish, taking the comments garnished from the SOMWOM reviews for the initial 1993 launch, the '94 model received a minor face lift, and the taillights were replaced with a more modern one piece unit.
With the cult popularity gained in 1993 for the Base model because of its bear bones, no fuss, no muss, get things done attitude, and poor sales of the X4PE. The '94 X4PE had the premium taken out of it. By striping the performance model down to the same standard of the base model resulted in a gain of over 100kg, which did more for the performance of the car then anything else could of.
the Gen II X4-Modular still powers the Astonish, but thanks for the introduction of MPFI across all engine ranges, the efficiency and power are up over the previous model year.
Thanks to the weight saving and extra power, the X4PE-Lite is able to sit back and smoke out the area with it’s Viscious LSD FWD all the way though 1st and part way into second gear, and with the money saved from all the premium interrior bits, much needed suspension modification and adjustments were made.
We at LHE hope to see the Astonish continue to thrive in its 'nich Economy market.