J.E.C.B (Junior Executive Car Brawl) 14th PLACE RELEASED

Whoops, just spent an hour tinkering with a submission… before I realised niall’s entry hasn’t actually been processed yet!

Oh well.

Mancini - Conqueror II Speciale (2015, 2.5L engine)




I’m deciding to open the competetion up to 15 participants becuase I was away today and so it seemed unfair that people had entered. I will change the scoring as well.

Can you guys let me know if I should raise the numbers of reviews or do you think that 3 is alright? Let me know please.

Changing the scoring system after taking submissions is often frowned upon.

I only changed how the points were allocated due to more participants. The criteria that will be judged has not changed and so it is just a matter of how many points each place will get.

Yeah just expanding the scope of the points is fine with me, you’re not talking about altering the scoring system itself, just allowing for more participants.

Just now that I noticed that the attributes will be ranked in points. This is a good solution, to avoid some distortions, like the ones that happen when the stats are just added together. Of course, it has some short comings, like, for example, too big a difference between 1st and 2nd, which would be unfair if two cars were almost as good in a given area. Still, I like this idea of yours, also great call on expanding to 15 entries, 10 really was too limited.

If there is a tie then both cars will receive the same points (e.g 2 cars with a drivability of 50.5 would get 25 points if they are the first) and the car after would get 16 points instead of 20 for being second because they came third. This should solve issues with cars having the same numbers.

Also, now I’ve increased the number to 15, do you guys still feel that 3 reviews is fair? I plan on doing reviews for the best cars and just giving a brief overview on each cars key stats and points that they got for the other cars.

I am looking foward to watching you all blow past me during the acceleration trials.

Sure, the system works well for ties. I was just thinking that it would be unfair if one car had 50.6 drivability and got 25 points and one with 50.5 only got 20 points. It is an inherent flaw with the chosen system, nothing is perfect.

Agreed, good call on expanding the slots and the scoring. I still think 3 reviews is fair, as a benchmark the other contests only tend to review 20% of validated entries, or in most cases less!

The point system is an interesting move, but I also agree with Leo: the big difference between 1st and 2nd will cause unpredictable scoring, but that’s not something that necessarily has to change, if, say, the reviewers like rewarding cars for being ‘the best in the field’ for a particular stat.

While I do not normally go within ten feet of “premium” branding style challenges (partially because I’m not very good at them), I’ve been trying my hand at everything, since upcoming rounds of testing will require some greater familiarity with how all the stats behave, not just my usual preferred of sportiness, acceleration, and track times :laughing: Thus I’m announcing a new car from a new mock company from Norway, the Indera Premier, from Sei:


You’re probably wondering to yourself- a petrol driven car company from Norway? Really? And you’d be right: it doesn’t make much sense. Cars in Norway are taxed heavily from purchase and on road. Even as an oil rich country, Norway is also extremely environmentally strict, and has the largest fleet of electric cars in the world. And a rather robust public transportation system. Furthermore, most of the culture surrounding cars doesn’t run the same way as it does in much of the OECD world, given the Scandanavian aversion to individuality and self-aggrandising in general. And while Norwegians do buy cars, it’s generally for much more practical considerations like needing to get somewhere that the public transport/your bike can’t take you, and goddamn, this road is tricky and icy.

Which means that the Indera, an all-aluminium 350hp RWD family saloon in the style of the sports family saloon somewhat similar to the new BMW 4 series, (except priced for a lot less), kind of makes even less sense in a market dominated by the pragmatic crossovers and SUVs. Or at least confined to the southern half of the country where it can actually drive on the freeways and roads. But hey, the founders of Sei are the kind of people who swim against the tide anyway! And with impressive acceleration where it counts, you can give the Law of Jante the finger as you merrily smoke your compatriots off the lights and on the motorway.

Da Wooden Cog proudly presents…

Da Estate Wagon!


Its faster around the Top Gear Test track, more powerful, and more fuel efficent then the BMW 318i (E46)!

Also since its an estate wagon it has more space for the family and luggage for your family trip and with its premium interior and entertainment system you will be comfy and entertained at the same time!

Need to tow a camper or a boat! No problem, with 188HP available from the highly efficient I6 you have plenty of power to tow that boat down the highway!

You cant go wrong with the power of a Highlander, the comfort of a Mercedes-Benz, and the reliability Toyota Corolla.

All yours for the low price of 16987.69

[quote=“Leonardo9613”]

Sure, the system works well for ties. I was just thinking that it would be unfair if one car had 50.6 drivability and got 25 points and one with 50.5 only got 20 points. It is an inherent flaw with the chosen system, nothing is perfect.[/quote]

I used this system of scoring and previously used an F1 style. I understand that a car that is marginally better could get a score that is quite a lot more than another car with just less but ultimately the numbers don’t lie; 50.6 is better than 50.5. That’s why I only used quantifiable data because there is no subjectivity. All results are based in numbers and the better it is, the more points it gets. Also, there are quite a few different categories for a car to obtain points in so a comfort orientated car isn’t just going to get low points due to it not being so fast due to the weighting of stats.

Back to the competition. I have 2 spaces left and 2 pending entries but it does run on a first come first served basis so people can still enter until I say it is over. When entries are closed, I am going to release the stats to my control car that I made and its options (no pictures) just so you guys can compare and then I will release mean stats and the median stats after I have ordered everything. After the median stats are completed, I will add up total scores and then start to release the cars from 15th down to 1st one by one with the top three cars getting a review along with their stats and placing for each stat.

Does this seem okay for everyone?

I am ok with that, mainly because I don’t build my cars around the scoring system (I prefer NOT knowing how the scoring works) but around the rules instead.

Sounds fine by me!

Sounds fine to me as well, I’m just glad da wooden cog has released a luxury car that’s (probably) slower than mine.

It only just occurred to me that 350hp might actually be too much for this competition, depending on how the others go. After all, we would presume that this means worse fuel economy, and a larger engine at that, and probably less money on other things like better seats and radio etc.

That said, my 350hp does come from a V6 which is only 3.2L and uses a VTEC system, allowing it to use an AFR of 14.6:1, which generates quite decent fuel economy. It’s just a matter of just how decent the others are.

Scoring systems sounds good to me! Also, it looks like I’m not the only one using a V6 :slight_smile:

And, yes strop, despite putting out 348 BHP, my fuel economy is poor to say the least :smiley: (probably because it’s a bigger engine)

My 3 liter V6 makes just over 200hp and lb-ft torque, of which 170 lb-fts is avaliable all the way from idle to redline, but it gets better gas mileage then my tiny 106hp 1.5L scion.

There are still 2 spaces left guys :laughing: