The larger of the NA1/NA2 NSX-esque body sets (with a 2.4m wheelbase) is indeed at least 2m wide (before adjusting rear wheel arch morphs), compared with 1.7m wide for the smaller of the two (2.4m wheelbase). In fact, in real life, the ACO won’t allow anything more than 2m wide, making the larger NSX body set even more difficult to justify.
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The 24 hour grace period is now over and I have received the pending items from:
@Le_cacatoes
@ldub0775
@KSIolajidebt
@RacingDukes did not make any resubmission, so the file they initially sent in will be the one I use.
@04mmar did not post an updated presentation for their LMH, so that car will not receive any points for presentation on the judging poll (-10 points).
Anyways, that’s not the main point of this post.
Out of a total of 30 entries, only a whopping FIVE were without any issues. @the-chowi, @Portalkat42, @TanksAreTryhards, and @Tyhikastija can skip the next few posts until I release the poll.
Every other car broke at least one rule, which is technically a binnable offense. But it wouldn’t be much of a challenge if we ran with just 5 entries, would it?
So I decided to limit bins to just the cars that broke the dimensions regulations. Which left… 15 cars. Out of 30. 
“But isn’t that unfair to the 5 entries that did everything right?”
Well, here’s what I propose. All cars which broke a rule but aren’t binned under the dimensions regs have a 10% penalty (-5 points) as well as -1 point for every rule they broke. That means only the 5 “perfect” entries will have the potential to get the full 50 points, while the rest have to suffer penalties of up to -11 points off their final score.
So once again, what do you think? In another 24 hours I will close this poll and release the bins accordingly. See you then.
- Allow “minor” offenders to compete with strict penalties applied.
- BIN 'EM ALL
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MAJOR OFFENDERS
Nº : 54
Concurrent / Competitor : @KenShiro
Modèle / Model : ISN Canopus
Infraction / Offence :
- Exceeds the defined width limit (bodywork)
- Does not have rear indicators
- Has stickers for external battery kill switches but no switches
- Has stickers for external extinguisher switches but no switches
Décision / Decision :
BINNED
Nº : 72
Concurrent / Competitor : @Rise_Comics
Modèle / Model : Platinum Centuritron LMH
Infraction / Offence :
- No presentation
- Exceeds the defined length limit (bodywork)
- Exceeds the defined width limit (bodywork)
- Features active aero (cooling flaps)
- Does not have fuel connectors
- Does not have rear fender cutouts
- Does not have the required Duchemin tyres
- Does not have “Hyper Car” stickers
- “HY” hybrid stickers are incorrectly placed
Décision / Decision :
BINNED
MINOR OFFENDERS
Nº : 12
Concurrent / Competitor : @Oreology
Modèle / Model : Viettor Vurai
Infraction / Offence :
- Features active aero (cooling flaps)
- Does not have the required Duchemin tyres
Décision / Decision :
PENALTY - 7 points
Nº : 66
Concurrent / Competitor : @DrDoomD1scord
Modèle / Model : Tio Casuario LMH
Infraction / Offence :
- Model Year is set to 2018
- Engine Family Name does not follow the defined convention
Décision / Decision :
PENALTY - 7 points
Nº : 03
Concurrent / Competitor : @Kitami
Modèle / Model : Leisurely GSX VI
Infraction / Offence :
- Presentation does not mention hybrid system but car has “HY” stickers
- Has stickers for external battery kill switches but no switches, not mirrored
- Has stickers for external extinguisher switches but no switches, not mirrored
Décision / Decision :
PENALTY - 8 points
Nº : 46
Concurrent / Competitor : @04mmar
Modèle / Model : Nerruci 223P LMH
Infraction / Offence :
- No presentation
- External battery kill switches are incorrectly placed
Décision / Decision :
PENALTY - 16 points
Nº : 74
Concurrent / Competitor : @Le_cacatoes
Modèle / Model : Plume Moteurs P670 LMH
Infraction / Offence :
- Front tyre width ends with 5
- Rear tyre width ends with 5
- Features active aero (cooling flaps)
- Does not have indicators front and rear
- Does not have the required external battery kill switches
- Does not have the required external extinguisher switches
Décision / Decision :
PENALTY - 11 points
Nº : 16
Concurrent / Competitor : @the-chowi
Modèle / Model : Milano Fenice Sedici
Infraction / Offence :
- Exceeds the defined width limit by 1mm (rounded up)
Décision / Decision :
PENALTY - 6 points
MAJOR OFFENDERS
Nº : 12
Concurrent / Competitor : @Danicoptero
Modèle / Model : Tarske PX-6 LMDh
Infraction / Offence :
- Exceeds the defined length limit (rear wing and bodywork)
Décision / Decision :
BINNED
Nº : 7
Concurrent / Competitor : @DrDoomD1scord
Modèle / Model : Tio Cr2640 LMDh
Infraction / Offence :
- Exceeds the defined length limit (rear wing)
- Engine Family Name does not follow the defined convention
- Engine Variant Year is set to 2012
- Does not have indicators front and rear
- External battery kill switches are not mirrored
- External extinguisher switches are not mirrored
Décision / Decision :
BINNED
MINOR OFFENDERS
MAJOR OFFENDERS
Nº : 14
Concurrent / Competitor : @BannedByAndroid
Modèle / Model : Vermillion AV-X/R LM-GTE
Infraction / Offence :
- Exceeds the defined width limit (bodywork)
- Features active aero (cooling flaps)
Décision / Decision :
BINNED
Nº : 63
Concurrent / Competitor : @RacingDukes
Modèle / Model : Gavril Phoenix GT3
Infraction / Offence :
- Exceeds the defined length limit (bodywork)
- Exceeds the defined width limit (bodywork)
- Engine Family Name does not follow the defined convention
- Does not have the required position indicators
- Does not have the required external battery kill switches
- Does not have the required external extinguisher switches
- Does not have the required Duchemin tyres
- Has “Hyper Car” stickers despite being a GT
- Has “HY” hybrid stickers despite being a GT
Décision / Decision :
BINNED
Nº : 65
Concurrent / Competitor : @DrDoomD1scord
Modèle / Model : Tio Eagle GTE
Infraction / Offence :
- Exceeds the defined width limit (bodywork)
- Engine Variant Year is set to 2016
Décision / Decision :
BINNED
Nº : 75
Concurrent / Competitor : @MCzenman
Modèle / Model : Peregrine VTS GT3
Infraction / Offence :
- Exceeds the defined length limit (rear wing)
- Model Year is set to 2012
- Engine Variant Year is set to 2012
- Features active aero (cooling flaps)
Décision / Decision :
BINNED
Nº : 24
Concurrent / Competitor : @Kitami
Modèle / Model : Empir-Leisurly XM4
Infraction / Offence :
- Exceeds the defined width limit (bodywork)
- Does not have the required external battery kill switches
- Does not have the required external extinguisher switches
Décision / Decision :
BINNED
Nº : 36
Concurrent / Competitor : @04mmar
Modèle / Model : Nerruci 470LFZ RS/R GT3
Infraction / Offence :
- Exceeds the defined length limit (rear wing)
- External battery kill switches are incorrectly placed
- External extinguisher switches are incorrectly placed
Décision / Decision :
BINNED
Nº : 8
Concurrent / Competitor : @Lazar
Modèle / Model : EFI RS Komi
Infraction / Offence :
- Exceeds the defined width limit (bodywork)
Décision / Decision :
BINNED
Nº : 75
Concurrent / Competitor : @ldub0775
Modèle / Model : Shijiazhuang ZRX GT3RS
Infraction / Offence :
- Exceeds the defined width limit (bodywork)
- Model Year is set to 2018
- Variant Year is set to 2018
- 4 seats
- Position lights are not coloured
- External battery kill switches are not mirrored
- External extinguisher switches are not mirrored
- Does not have the required Duchemin tyres
Décision / Decision :
BINNED
Nº : 15
Concurrent / Competitor : @VaporRossa
Modèle / Model : Maartens Varese RSV-3 Pro
Infraction / Offence :
- Exceeds the defined width limit (bodywork)
- Does not have the required rear rain light
- External battery kill switches are not mirrored
- External extinguisher switches are not mirrored
Décision / Decision :
BINNED
MINOR OFFENDERS
Nº : 95
Concurrent / Competitor : @Prium
Modèle / Model : Capital Cardinal GTS-LM
Infraction / Offence :
- 2+2 seats
- External extinguisher switches are incorrectly placed
Décision / Decision :
PENALTY - 7 points
Nº : 114
Concurrent / Competitor : @donutsnail
Modèle / Model : Turból jv8 GT3 Evo2020
Infraction / Offence :
- Position lights are orange instead of the required green
Décision / Decision :
PENALTY - 6 points
Nº : 37
Concurrent / Competitor : @KSIolajidebt
Modèle / Model : Kings Huntsman GT3
Infraction / Offence :
- Engine Family Name does not follow the defined convention
- 2 seats
- Does not have rear indicators
- Does not have position lights
- Does not have the required external battery kill switches
- Does not have the required external extinguisher switches
Décision / Decision :
PENALTY - 11 points
Nº : 04
Concurrent / Competitor : @randomtuner
Modèle / Model : Hosher Machete GT3
Infraction / Offence :
- Features active aero (cooling flaps)
Décision / Decision :
PENALTY - 6 points
Nº : 07
Concurrent / Competitor : @Kitami
Modèle / Model : Leisurely CNR4
Infraction / Offence :
- Does not have the required rear rain light
- Has stickers for external battery kill switches but no switches, not mirrored
- Has stickers for external extinguisher switches but no switches, not mirrored
Décision / Decision :
PENALTY - 8 points
Nº : 87
Concurrent / Competitor : @FrederikLenius
Modèle / Model : Lenius Faro GTE
Infraction / Offence :
- Exceeds the defined width limit by 1mm
- Position lights are orange instead of the required green
- External battery kill switches are not mirrored
- External extinguisher switches are not mirrored
Décision / Decision :
PENALTY - 9 points
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by 0.66 mm, in a very inconsequential spot…
seems very minor compared to some of the minor offenders’ faults…
i’d argue that it should at least be considered a minor offender.
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Yeah i get your frustration, mine was one millimeter as well.
I would like to suggest another penalty for breaking the dimension rule.
-1 point per millimeter over the limit (rounded up)
People who are over by a smidge can appeal the bin decision since the car might still be competitive. People who are way over should not bother appealing since the car would not be competitive to relieve the workload of checking the cars. Would there be support for this?
I know the people affected would probably support this, so im interested in what the people who aren’t, thinks?
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Probably goes without saying but I support this. Would be a shame for our cars to be out of the running when some oversights that to me seem more glaring are still in competition…
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If all the major offenders in the GT category were simply rejected as-is, we’d have only 10 entrants there, of which only five entrants were not subject to any penalties. Also, as things stand, regarding the other categories, LMDh will be completely absent (neither of the submissions in that class will be eligible) and three of the 10 LMH submissions will be ineligible.
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Ah ffs XD I totally forgot about the model/trim years and the cooling flaps! Ah well. Maybe next year, if there’s another of these!
As regards the length limit stuff: Agreed, cars that are just a hair over should only get minor penalties. Not really fair to ding them that hard for something inconsequential imo
TBH, I don’t believe that any one part can be consequential or inconsequential. The limits are quite clearly defined with no exceptions save for the mirrors and wheels. IIRC they use lasers for measurement irl, so that’s probably even more exact than I am.
I did consider binning cars with missing equipment as that would also be quite an egregious offence irl. However as you can see, that would be a large portion of the grid…
OK, I am willing to do this up to 5mm, meaning the new width limits are 2055.00mm for GT and 2105.00mm for LMH. Of course, you will still be subject to the 10% penalty like all rulebreakers. If anyone believes they still have a competitive car and wants to appeal, please use a bounds box to measure your car. Make sure this box is in a contrasting colour and covers the whole car.
For GT:
Use the largest 3D cube scaled to 24 on the length axis and 10.275 on the width axis.
For LMH:
Use the largest 3D cube scaled to 26 on the length axis and 10.525 on the width axis.
If your car is eligible for reentry, please send me an appeal DM with a screenshot of the measurement setup. Make sure everything is visible in the pic, and most importantly be honest. I still have the right to reject any appeal if I find things do not match on my end. Good luck.
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I’m guessing mine is ineligible for resubmission given the other three infractions? Just so we’re clear on what constitutes a resubmittable entry versus a permanently binned one
A permanently binned entry is any entry that exceeds the limits by more than 5mm. If an entry has other infractions but falls within the 5mm, they are eligible for appeal and will be penalised accordingly like the minor offenders.
Unfortunately all cars that exceeded the length limit, including yours, exceeded it by more than 5mm, hence they are ineligible for appeal.
It’s important to note that this is only an appeal, not a chance for resubmission. I will not be accepting any more .car files.
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It’s a pity my partner didn’t observe the rules carefully
Gotcha. Well, good luck to all the participants 
As for me, I’m planning on releasing a version of my entry to the public, so this has been a useful learning experience regarding making the public version as realistic as possible. Cheers
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@the-chowi & @FrederikLenius have successfully appealed their bins and I’ve updated the instabins post accordingly.
I am now (finally) working on the poll which should be out tomorrow night if all goes well, so if you were binned but you think you deserve to be in it, then the clock is ticking! Beware, there are different measurements for GT and LMH, so don’t get mixed up 
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EDIT: Oh yeah I forgot to mention, I’ll keep this open for a week, so 20/6 will be the last day to vote.
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After the bins, we’re left with 8 and 9 cars in GTE and LMH, respectively - or is it the other way around? Anyway, back in the 1990s, this would have been enough for an arcade, PC, or home console game themed around Le Mans (and/or whatever series these cars’ equivalents were also entered in - between the collapse of the World Sportscar Championship in 1992 and the establishment of the World Endurance Championship in 2010, there were no unified global championships for prototype racers, and it would not be until 2011 that the WEC, then known as the Intercontinental Le Mans Cup, finally added the 24 Hours of Le Mans to its schedule, with the race not being part of any series whatsoever during the intervening years, instead being a one-off stand-alone event).
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Ladies and gentlemen, do you have the confidence to get a high ranking? I think the LMDH first place has already been decided.
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OVERALL PODIUM
FIRST PLACE 
@Portalkat42’s Midlands Astraea GT3
38.34 points
SECOND PLACE 
@the-chowi’s Calypso Sombra GT3
37.25 points
THIRD PLACE 
@Tyhikastija’s Ökul S99 NHMS LM
34.97 points
LMH PODIUM
FIRST PLACE
@Tyhikastija’s Ökul S99 NHMS LM
34.97 points
SECOND PLACE
@Oreology’s Viettor Vurai
34.09 points
THIRD PLACE
@TanksAreTryhards’ AutoDelta Nuvolari LMH
33.85 points
GT PODIUM
FIRST PLACE
@Portalkat42’s Midlands Astraea GT3
38.34 points
SECOND PLACE
@the-chowi’s Calypso Sombra GT3
37.25 points
THIRD PLACE
@donutsnail’s Turból jv8 GT3 Evo2020
27.88 points
COMPLETE RANKING AND SPREADSHEET
- @Portalkat42 - Midlands Astraea GT3
- @the-chowi - Calypso Sombra GT3
- @Tyhikastija - Ökul S99 NHMS LM
- @Oreology - Viettor Vurai
- @TanksAreTryhards - AutoDelta Nuvolari LMH
- @donutsnail - Turból jv8 GT3 Evo2020
- @FrederikLenius - Lenius Faro GTE
- @Prium - Capital Cardinal GTS-LM
- @DrDoomD1scord - Tio Casuario LMH
- @KSIolajidebt - Kings Huntsman GT3
- @randomtuner - Hosher Machete GT3
- @Kitami - Leisurely GSX VI
- @04mmar - Nerruci 223P LMH
- @Le_cacatoes - Plume Moteurs P670 LMH
NOTE: The responses in the spreadsheet have been anonymised so they are not necessarily in any order.
A well-deserved congratulations to all the podium finishers and a big thank you to everyone for participating, whether you entered, voted, or both. I wasn’t sure if such an event would be successful, but I think it went quite well even with some hiccups along the way.
I’m planning to run more rounds of this challenge in the future with different themes, so do let me know what you’d like to see next and what I can improve on for the future.
But that's for another time. ROC still isn't done yet...
Just like the AGC23 finale, I’m going to write up an in-universe article (or maybe two) for ROC.
However, since exams are coming up for me, don’t expect it to be coming so soon. Most likely in a month or so.
In the meantime, I need some additional info for fleshing out the lore. Podium finishers, please send me the:
- Full team name
- Full driver lineup with names and nationalities
- Any additional lore you’d like to add regarding race operations, company/team history at Le Mans, etc.
The rest can decide how you ended up in your finishing place. Did your driver make a costly mistake and spin out whilst they were in a good position? Did they make contact with another competitor? Or was the car stricken by mechanical failure, necessitating several laps spent fixing it in the garage? You decide (if you wanna be included).
See you in the next one.
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