Realism Challenge 5- Super Economy Car

In this challenge you must build a car that, even though your company doesn’t know it yet, will become the first choice for 17-20 year olds around the world, it can be in any of these classes
Small Exec. Sedan or Estate
Large Hatch
Mid Size hatch/ Premium hatch
Small Hatch
Eco Hatch (over 50 MPG imp.)
Small coupe
Small convertible/Roadster
Retro-Modern (Hatch/Sedan/Convertible)
You will build you car in between the years of 1990-2010 and it must cost no more than $25,000 new with a 10% mark up
It must-
have no more than 150 bhp
have at least standard safety
at least standard interior and entertainment
at least 35 safety and 30 drivability
have reasonable sportiness (varies from class to class so no number to reach)
have an engine costing no more than $1500
not have a turbo
no more than 6 cylinders
not have 4x4 or AWD
Not have any quality above +6 or below -2
You must-
Naming- Model- Real Challenge 1/Username
Trim- Name of manufacturer and model
Family- same as model
Variant- complete engine name
send me your designs through Google Drive or private message me with the .zip
the deadline will be on the 20th of June 2016 at 4pm BST(British Summer Time)
Good Luck and Have Fun! (I will put scoring criteria up tomorrow)

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hmm. this is quite reasonable but why only limit the fuel consumption to eco hatch?
especially 50mpg. that’s a bit high(unless by imperial you mean UK mpg)

Imperial is the system that the UK use, imperial gallons are much larger than US gallons so 50 MPG is reasonable from a 90s/2000s eco car.

and the point of an eco hatch is to have above all, excellent fuel mileage.

i think you could edit you post now, can’t you?

anyway. that’s acceptable, but i think you should put a baseline minimal fuel economy on all the classes.
and a special case like an eco hatch, which may needs different rules are understandable.

and how do you calculate ‘engine cost’? as the game only tells ‘material cost’.

sorry i’m a bit too whiny, but kinda feel like this need a rule discussion phase first before opened.

Cars will be scored on their-
Specific Outputs (engines larger than 1.5l will miss out on points because of the inability to get 100 bhp/l as per the rules)
drivability
sportiness
safety
economy
price
underpinnings
engine
body and fixture design, placement and orientation.
They will be scored against a ‘model’ car that shows what a 100 point entry would look like, factoring in that the class I have chosen to build in is one of the heaviest to choose from (small Exec, in my case an estate)

  1. Some people might find that a baseline mpg on anything other than one that irl is built on one is a bit un realistic
  2. I did mean material cost on the engine
  3. that is understandable, I don’t communicate rules or ideas very well and just assume that people will understand what I am on about (normally not the case)

you do know that some quality slider on the engine actually lower the material cost and cause quality slider abuse?

That is true but he has included a quality slider limit, additionally, the quality sliders might lower material costs but they increase production units which will be reflected in the market price.

well doesn’t match my Truck specialty that well, however it would seem a perfect challenge for a 20A Volta

also one question, any specific reason why turbo’s are banned? it doesn’t really hurt reliability when done right and will add a good bit of power and efficiency

I’m guessing that turbos are banned because this is supposed to be a first car for 17-20s.

Personally I feel that 150hp is too much for this age range and “experience”.

I looked at Citreon Saxo stats, as this was generally accepted he style of car used but “youngsters” back then.

My car certainly doesn’t look like a Saxo but engine size an power output are similar.

see but here in Aus 150hp is fairly small and our entry commodores and falcons produce that with ease.

well that’s pretty debatable isn’t it.

150hp in a ‘small’ nation or somewhere that has a lot of traffic is pretty big and pretty inefficient.
but 150hp where the roads are long and wide is maybe only in the ‘acceptable’ power range.

question is. is it a global car? if it is, i needs to have just enough power but also just enough efficiency, and acceptable everything else. i.e Honda jazz/fit

To clarify per class: For classes mid-size hatch, this is barely adequate (Honda Civic level, and that’s considered sub-par). For anything larger, it’s grossly insufficient. For small coupe, too, it might be a bit small. For small convertible/roadster (MX-5 ND, 1.6 version), it’s plenty.

What I’d suggest is a power to weight ratio: something like no more than 120bhp per metric ton or something.

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I’d personally say 100 hp / ton, this gives the 150 hp for a 1500 kg sedan, and 120 hp for a 1200 kg hatchback, which seems to be pretty standard acceptable to insurance companies (youngster petrolheads’ worst enemy)

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  1. why no specific model year?
  2. i agree that 150 hp seems a bit much for an entry level car. a much lower price (and/or running costs) may be more reasonable.
  3. maybe use the average car as a benchmark rather than a 100-score car.

We, at First Order Automotive, know what “youngsters” of today think about then they look for a car.

It’s appearance…and sound…

We, therefore, created White Knight. An incredibly beautiful piece of engineering with an exquisite sound system.

So, that’s the “looks” covered.

Running costs
These are kept down by installing our Lightforce 1400. A 1.4L, fuel injected engine which produces just over 100hp. Oh and we put that engine in the middle of the car! This has a 6speed manual transmission that powers the back wheels.

Top speed is 126mph and 0-60 is 10.4 seconds. Along with this is over 40mpg!

So your insurance is going to be a pleasant surprise.

Entertainment
Now we come to the “sounds” aspect of the car.

We have fitted out top of the range Infotainment System (IS) into the car. This is normally reserved for our high end markets but you’re a young adult and you like impress with your “music” and sound systems. The IS also has a docking port for your insurance company to install a black box tracker if it is required.

Cost
So, all this is offered to you for…$16940*…YES $16940

*Will include 1 years free insurance (through First Order Insurance Ltd), 1 years free servicing and a 5 year/50,000 mile warranty.

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100 is not the most you can get, you could get much higher

Not entirely related but what year is this car? Because the trackers used by insurance companies fit into the OBDII port which is standard on every car after 1996.

the White Knight is a 2010 model year car.