Seat Arrangement Issues 4.2

I’m mostly creating this thread as a way for people to point out bodies with unusual seating issues (such as very large bodies with only a .5 rear row) so they don’t keep getting buried over on Discord when people mention it.

If you have a body that seems like it should have more seating options, or less, please post an image of the vehicle trim in question and include the editor name, such as Rouen_46_Fastback_Ect and include what you believe should be changed. It’ll be much easier to keep track of here.

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this should not seat three rows.

All 2-door coupe variants of the E90 Corolla body (except for the smallest version, with its 2.3m wheelbase) can only seat +2 occupants in the rearmost row.

Ideally, the rearmost row should be able to accommodate 2 or 3 full-size seats, especially since the larger body sets look most likely to fit that configuration.

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Just so I don’t forget to add this later. Body isnt actually a soft top.


It’s suggested that this trim gets a full rear row since the rest of the trims do, and apparently the car this was based on had a rear bench seat?

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The 2-door coupe version of the smallest '98 pony car body set and both 2-door versions of the E31 body can only accommodate +2 seating in the rearmost row each, even though they look big enough on the outside to have at least 2 full-sized rear seats.

Couldn’t this just be posted in the UE4 Open Beta Body + Variant Issues list thread?

I could, but it would be for a different type of issues altogether. This is mainly for the seating issues and not the whole “body has bad morphs, and this is also 4.1”.

Just want to say, I did submit these cars for change/review, but I doubt this is everything that is wonky with the revised seating system.

You should expect to see these changes in the next patch by the way.

All of the Rouen_46_Estate_[3DR/5DR] should probably be looked at.

Currently, only the 2.8m (standard) wheelbase model allows 3 rows of seating. The others, including the longer wheelbase versions, only allow 2.

JD1974_50s_[275/300]_Kombi_4T wagons also probably deserve 3 rows.

Actually, if you search for wagon bodies with 2 seat rows and 4 doors, there are tons of cars that show up, most of which probably ought to allow 3 rows. Maybe not full rows?

I was looking to recreate the Buick series 90 Limo, which had 3 front seats, 3 rear seats, and 2 fold down seats in between. Not sure how that would be implemented, as I think 8 passengers was more common than 9, but I guess both could be allowed.

In addition to the above, the 47_[24/26/2831]_Bumerica_Coupette 4Doors and Rouen_46_Fastback_4DR_[Wheelbase] plus the convertible variants should have three rows. At least the longer wheelbases should, but I suspect all of them ought to.

The naming schemes of these models are really messy, but if it helps, here’s a list of the non-wagon bodies that I think should have three rows:

  • 47_31_Bumerica_Coupette_4Door (also seems to have wrong thumbnail?)
  • 47_28_Bumerica_Coupette_4Door
  • 47_26_Bumerica_Coupette_4Door
  • 47_24_Bumerica_Coupette_4Door
  • Rouen_46_Fastback_4DR_XLWB
  • Rouen_46_Fastback_4DR_SWB
  • Rouen_46_Fastback_4DR
  • Rouen_46_Fastback_4DR_MWB
  • Rouen_46_Fastback_4DR_LWB
  • Rouen_46_Fastback_Convertible_4DR_XLWB
  • Rouen_46_Fastback_Convertible_4DR_SWB
  • Rouen_46_Fastback_Convertible_4DR
  • Rouen_46_Fastback_Convertible_4DR_MWB
  • Rouen_46_Fastback_Convertible_4DR_LWB

For wagons, there are far too many to name. Suffice to say there are currently a ton of 4 door wagon bodies with only 2 allowed rows of seating.

Dropping my doc on the Rear engine seat issues and stuff that I’ve found here so it’ll be in 3 places. Formatting is not as easy to read because it’s the .txt file, but all the data is still there

4.2 bodies 2+2 seat fix list.txt (9.2 KB)

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80sGPV_4DoorXL_BP_Preview body aka the 4 door Wrangler YJ only allows for +2 seats in the rear. I understand why the 2 door version would have +2 seats, but having sat in the back of Wrangler Unlimiteds they’re not too bad in terms of rear seat room. I think the 4 door version should allow for 3 full seats in the back.

Edit:

This one too

I mentioned these before, and if I remember correctly, I was told no for these specifically.

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Did anything come of this? I just checked, and most of the 40s wagons still seem to be lacking a third row.

Pretty sure everything was addressed that needed to be addressed. I don’t remember the reason why the 40s wagons didn’t get another row, but there was a reason.

Okay, but it’s not consistent right now.

40_eu_wagon_5door_[S/M/L]_cpp:
3 full seat rows

44_eu_wagon_5door_[S/M/L]_cpp:
2 seat rows

BodyEditor_40sSedan02Large_WagonA_Preview:
3 full seat rows (2.6m wheelbase)

Rouen_46_Estate_5DR_[SWB/MWB/_/LWB/XLWB]_Preview:
2 seat rows
(Also note the 2.8m 3DR estate has 3 full rows for some reason…)

46_[24/26/28/31]_Bumerica_Wagon_Preview
2 seat rows

50er_Kombi_4T_250cm_BP and
JD1975_50s_[275/300]_Kombi_4T_BP:
2 seat rows

BodyEditor_50sSedan[Large/Huge]_Wagon_Preview:
2 seat rows

Euro_50s_Estate_Preview:
3 full seat rows

BodyEditor_52_[SmallSaloon_Estate/SaloonMed_Est]5dr_Preview:
2 seat rows

53_us_wagon_5door_XS_cpp:
2 seat rows (2.5m wheelbase)

53_us_wagon_5door_[S/M/L]_cpp:
3 full seat rows

JD_60s_Cor_[210/230/250]_4W_PD
2 seat rows

JD_60s_Cor_270_4W_PD
3 full seat rows (3 door also has 3 full rows)

I imagine they all should follow the example of the latter models (Winga Dinga and 1955 wagon)—3 rows if over ~2.7m wheelbase, 2 rows otherwise.

I doesn’t appear to get any more consistent after these models, either.

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