This is kind of a WW spin off. ................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
A regional motorsport federation is looking to host a new series for spec racecars. They’re looking for a car that will be popular with both spectators and drivers, as well as reasonably affordable for the teams.
Performance Targets:
The car should have performance within these margins. These are not mandatory, but failing to meet these might give you penalties.
Airfield Laptime: 1:05.0 - 1:25.0
0-100km/h time: 2.8s - 6.5s
Top Speed: 220km/h - 300km/h
Cornering Gs: 0.80G - 1.75G
Rules:
Trim:
Model year: Free, Trim year: 2020
Rim diameter: 18 inches maximum
Tyre profile: Minimum 30
All radial tyres allowed. Only hard slicks allowed for racing radials. All cross-ply and racing cross-ply tyres banned.
Maximum tyre quality tyre: +5
Interiors: Won’t be judged, but a simple one is recommended for topless cars.
Racing parts are allowed
Active aero and cooling flaps are banned.
Seats: At least 1 full seat
Basic, Sport or Race interior
Entertainment: Basic or Standard of any kind
Hydropneumatic, Air, and both Active suspensions will increase SVC by 10%
Toe limit: +/-0.5
Legacy and open wheel bodies are banned
Max price: $60.000
Engine:
Family year: Free, Variant year: 2020
Fuel: Ethanol E100
Loudness: 85 maximum
Emissions must pass WES9
Racing parts allowed
No V16 engines
Other:
Techpool: maximum $75M total
No negative quality or techpool
Advanced settings: Wheel width, wheel diameter, tyre width, tyre diameter, and camber are banned; wheelbase can be changed by 20 (including negatives, for example: -5 rear, 15 front); track width can be changed by 20 max (negative or possitive).
I will punish memes and cars that cheese too hard.
If you have any doubts feel free to ask either in the thread or my DMs.
Ellisbury stable update.
Priorities:
The car will be scored in three different categories: Excitement, Racing and Cost.
Excitement: - Styling, Design Realism - Less driving aids (power steering and traction aids) - Prestige
If better drivability makes it less likely for drivers to make mistakes, then having more comfort reduces the amount of fatigue sustained during a stint - but the latter is a 1-star priority considering that the races in this series tend to be quite short.
Could probably specify radial hard slicks, as cross-ply slicks are extremely outdated and disused in the modern era, as well as the wording suggests hard slicks are the only racing tyres allowed, therefore any tyre is allowed from a word-logical point of view, English language sure is delightful lol
The challenge is interesting, but I am slightly opposed to open-wheel ban considering there is a Formula Ford in the inspirations, and maybe Caterham or Ariel would make for good inspirations too? Those also have cup/championship series. Another good call would be Ginetta (Ginetta Junior G40 and G56 GTA), as they’re synonymous with their cup cars too.
E100 seems like an odd choice to me given none of the inspiration use purpose-built racing engines and therefore have compression ratios that are more suitable for gasoline, around 12:1 max and E100 requires around 15:1 minimum to work properly in game.
I agree, I could word it better. Just to be clear all radial tyres are allowed, but the only racing radials allowed are hard slicks. I’ll ban cross-plies.
Open-wheel bodies are a hard no from me. They’re broken and I don’t want to deal with them. If you want to use 3D to make an open wheeler then I’m fine with that.
As for the other inspirations, they’re good too. I just thought the ones on the post would be enough.
Many racing series have been moving to ethanol fuels in the last years, so I don’t think a 2025 series running on E100 is too crazy.
Fair criticism though. I want to use a fuel with at least some ethanol, but I’m interested in seeing what people think. I might even let people choose what % of ethanol they want for their cars.
Basic, Sport or Race interior.
Standard AM radio or better.
I’ll do you something better, no lower limits but it has to make sense.
13" inches on a Caterham? Sure. On a Porsche Cup? You’re getting a heavy realism penalty.
Gotta ask how are you gonna judge a miata vs Radical?
Like what if i have a same reliability engine but instead of miata its in the radical. Saying this to say i dont wanna make a miata and become last because everyone did crazy track radical
Does manual vs assisted steering count for “less driving aids”? Or will that all be mediated via the existing reduction to sportiness?
Karhgath points out that it could be broader than just steering. Do autos count? Do the various manuals without clutch pedals (that one’s me)? Do LSDs or active suspension count?
Oh, one more thing, are we allowed to use premium/luxe entertainment, or options more recent than AM radios? Comfort is a scored stat, after all.
I’m still thinking of what to do with active suspensions. I don’t want to ban them, but I feel like they should be limited somehow. I’d like to hear your opinions about it.
From personal experiences, I don’t think Ive ever seen active suspension on a race car. Standard setups offer more than enough adjustment in 99% of scenarios. Its more often than not just not worthwhile adding the complexity and weight.
Its basically the same with anti-roll bars. I I’ve only seen passive ones with some form of adjustment either trough blades, change the levarge point or just outright change the the roll bar to a thicker one. This is how its adjusted on the Radicals, its called a nik link system. You can look at the SR1/3/10 owners manual and in the parts catalogue if you wanna visualize it. It can be found on Radicals website and is totally free to look at.
Personally I don’t think it should be outright banned but there should be some form of penalty, like added cost or effect the driver assists criteria in a negative way.
Edit: I would think that having active suspension would make the car setup process a hell of a lot more complicated as well. For most beginners the setup process on the dampers/springs is complicated enough and I would imaginen having active stuff on a spec car would make the mechanical knowledge entry level much higher and would probably require an engineer which would also make the price point to enter much higher and would scare away a lot of lower budget teams.
