No surprise considering its body set (which I suspect is the recently introduced '92 Copy Cat) isn’t among the available options in the Ellisbury version (which I am currently using), even as a mod.
Real
D:
is it possible to re-apply
No. Resubmissions weren’t allowed for this challenge. And it would be too late now anyways.
Even experienced players make mistakes sometimes, so don’t worry about it too much. Just be more careful next time.
Damn my bad, i forgot to check the game version.
Maybe next time
Kono hoshi no nageku koe wo kike
(bravern bravern bang bang bang bravern)
Yasuragi wo mamoru tate to nare
(bravern bravern bang bang bang bravern)
Go Dash! inochi wa merodii
Wake Up! kizuna wa haamonii
Senshi no manazashi de tsuranuke
Ai wo sei wo toushi wo yaiba ni sakebe
(bravern zan!!)
Daita kanousei tsukame just one tamashii
Bureedo puraido uzumaku sora ni kakagete
(bravern zubasshu!!)
Yuuki mugendai akaku moyase moyase moyase
Asu wo negau namida egao ni kawaru made
Bang bang bang bang
Bang bang bang bang bang bravern! …
EARLY ELIMINATIONS
After talking with the manufacturers, we found serious issues with some of the submissions. These cars are a step behind the rest and won’t be considered for the new series.
@JBKmester - Akai Cerek R
While it’s more prestigious than the average car and it has no driving aids, design leaves a lot to be desired. It’s very basic, with some basic stuff like door handles missing, and what little is there isn’t great.
It’s one of the most comfortable cars submitted and safety is decent, but the actual driving characteristics aren’t good. It’s hard to drive and it’s not a fun experience.
Maintenance isn’t great either. Fuel economy and service costs aren’t that bad but considering the awful reliability of the Cerek, it’s hard to justify a price of $42500.
To be completely honest, this car is awful. It ranks bottom 4 in all 3 main categories. A severe lack of R&D (only $1.66M out of the allowed $75M techpool) hurts this car in all parameters.
@UnderlovedGhost - Fontana Legate CRD SpecA
Out of all of the cars submitted, the Legate CRD is the only one with power steering, although it doesn’t have any traction aids. Prestige is a bit low and it has a good enough design, but it could use a bit more of work.
In terms of driving, this car is a mess though. Very hard to drive, uncomfortable and overall not a fun experience. We’ve seen cars with worse safety, but it’s still not great.
Maintenance is also not great. After paying $54000, you’ll be looking at $6.5k in service costs along with a very thirsty and kind of unreliable engine.
Overall, we recommend staying away from the Legate CRD. While it has some advantages, the poor driving characteristics and expensive maintenance are not worth what little advantages it offers.
@Dog959 - WS LMJ
We’re not fans of the design on this one. The front is not that bad, but the rear is just holes and empty space. The door handle is really low and uncomfortable to use. Other than that, it offers no driver aids and isn’t too prestigious.
Apparently the LMJ is a blast to drive with it’s high downforce, although we’re concerned that it would be too much for unexperienced and gentlemen racers. Both safety and comfort could be improved, but aren’t the worst we’ve seen.
At $47700 this car is on the more expensive side, however decent reliability as well as excellent service costs and fuel economy somewhat compensate for it.
With a better design, this car could have been decent, but there are much better looking cars with similar or better engineering.
@Chief - CMG Kommander
It’s not really an exciting car, with an unremarkable (although not bad) design and almost non-existing prestige. It has no driving aids, so that would spice it up a little, but so do many other cars that do better on the other parameters.
It’s also slow, really slow. Not only is it a boring car to drive it’s also uncomfortable. Even though it has received some safety upgrades, this is a car from the 60s and it shows. The safety equipment leaves a lot to be desired and is not up to modern standards. Taking all of this into consideration, you can see why drivers might not be fans of the Kommander, even if it is easy to drive.
You know who likes this car? The teams AKA the ones paying for it. Not only is it the cheapest car submitted at $10000, it also has the lowests service costs. While reliability and fuel economy aren’t as good, you can’t really complain for the price you’re paying.
A series running this car would probably get large grids, but it wouldn’t attract large crowds. It’s best suited for local club racing.
@ddgs002_56056 - VULK Ultimate GTR
Styling is aggresive but not that impressive. It has some prestige but nothing special. It also has both TC and ABS, so that makes it more predictable (good for the drivers, bad for the spectators). This is a car that enthusiasts would be excited to see, but the average person isn’t going to care about it.
The drivers that have tried the Ultimate GTR before agree that while it’s fun to drive, its handling is overall somewhat average. A common complaint is that even with driving aids, the car is still not that easy to drive.
Maintenance for this car is a nighmare. Not only is it unreliable, it’s also very expensive to service and fuel economy is below average. For $59800 we expected something better.
This car doesn’t do enough to justify it’s massive entry cost. Add the maintenance costs and there’s only a few teams that could afford running these for a full season.
@Kanye_West - Hoffsman Venom XK GT3
A good design and a massive naturally aspirated V10 engine makes this car attractive to fans, even if it’s equiped with both TC and ABS. It’s not a perfect design, it has some rough edges, but overall there’s not any big issues here.
Drivers love the Venom too. It’s fun, safe and easy to drive (thanks to the driver aids). There’s even a hint of comfort too. If it was up to the drivers, this would be one of the top contenders.
However, the teams have a say in it too. A price of $55000 is scary, but it’s not a death sentece. Then you see the questionable reliability. And the over $9k you have to pay in service costs that are only made worse by the active suspension. And the 36.7L/100km (that’s 6.41MPG btw, HOW!!!) of fuel that the engine needs to run.
Are you rich and want a fun trackday car? Then go ahead and get one of these. If you want to run a spec series that gets entries in the single digits and collapses after a couple of years you can do that too I guess.
REVIEWS PART 1
With only 13 cars left, the federation scheduled two private test days to try the remaining cars. For the first one, they tested the slowest cars, all of the cars here lap the airfield in over 1:15.00.
@AMuteCrypt - AVM Super A-Cup
This little box is the AVM Super A-Cup. It has no driving aids and it has some prestige to it’s name, but it looks like… well a box. To be honest it’s not terrible, it’s kinda cute and I’m sure it will have some fans, but it’s not a favorite.
Our test drivers gave it good scores. It’s easy to drive and surprisingly comfortable for a race car. Even if it’s not the most exciting driving experience or the safest, it’s still pretty good on the track.
A first look at the engineering of the AVM seemed promising. It’s cheap to buy, cheap to maintain, reliable and good on fuel. On the other hand, we question if AWD was really necessary for a car like this. Same goes for the engine. We understand why it is like it is, but if you need 2 bars of pressure, you should probably be looking at other engines.
Overall a surprisingly strong entry, although we’re not too fond of the design and some of the engineering choices.
@iivansmith & @kookie - Homada Kochi CUP
A excellent looking and well designed compact, it has just the right modifications to make it ready for the track while still looking close to the road car it’s based on. The Kochi CUP comes equiped with both TC and ABS and as expected, it’s not a very prestigious car. For better and for worse, it’s just a small hatchback modified for the track.
Thanks to the taction aids, the Kochi is pretty easy to drive, although we found the safety equipment to be somewhat inadequate. It’s also doesn’t have the sportiest feeling, but it’s still a fun car.
Where this car shines is in maintenance. It’s one of the best cars submitted in this area, with an entry price of just $18800. Excellent service costs and fuel economy guarantee you won’t be spending that much in the long run even if reliability isn’t the best (it’s still decent).
Although the on track experience is a bit behind some of the other cars, this is still a very strong and cheap entry with a great design.
@Kreator - ACZ Arya Champ
A decent design, even if it’s not spectacular. It’s not very prestigious so most fans won’t have heard of this car before but it compesates a bit by having no driving aids.
Our test drivers had fun with the Arya Champ, but a couple of spins evidenced that this is not an easy car to drive. Safety is up to modern standards but it doesn’t stand out over the rest of the entries.
Good reliability, fuel economy and a low starting price make this an interesting car for the teams. Service costs are decent too, although it’s nothing to brag about.
While the ACZ gets decent scores in all 3 main areas, it doesn’t stand out from the rest of the entries in any of them. The cheap price and maintenance gives it some strong points though.
@Oreology - Arusa Kunai Cup Car
Unlike most entries that opt for either no driving aids or both TC and ABS; the Kunai is equiped with only ABS. It has decent prestige and a stunning design, it’s slick and everything looks right.
Safety equipment on the Kunai is excellent and it’s fun to drive, but handling isn’t that good. It’s not the worst, but we tested some cars without driving aids that were much easier to drive.
A low price and decent reliability and fuel economy are nice, but at over $3k in service costs might be a bit too much for some of the smaller teams.
The Kunai would probably be loved by fans, but the drivers and teams might prefer other options.
@Prium - Targa Celere 600
Take a look at this car and tell me yourself if it has any driving aids. The Celere 600 is a small and beautiful retro styled racecar. It’s unique appearance and twin turbo V6 are sure to turn it into a fan favorite.
Unfortunately, it doesn’t handle as good as it looks, it’s hard to drive and not that fun. Surprisingly it’s one of the most comfortable cars in this group, but the lack of a decent safety equipment is as dissapointing as it is worrying.
The engine in the Celere is a bit thirsty and reliability and service costs could be better but are decent. At $31100, some better engineering would be expected.
A very exciting car that fans love but drivers hate. If maintenance costs were cheaper, maybe the teams could turn the balance in favor of this car, but as it is there are cars that can be as exciting (or more) without having to sacrifice so much.
@Ritz - Norrsken Pogona Trophy
While we aren’t the biggest fans of the headlights on the Pogona Trophy, it’s still a well built and good looking car. It’s prestige is just above average and it has no driving aids.
The driving experience of this car is unmatched. All of our test drivers got out of the car with a big smile and asking to have another go. Yes, it’s not the most fun car, but it’s so easy to drive that you can push it without any worries and for a racecar, it’s not too uncomfortable. It’s also a very safe car, wich gives you even more confidence on track.
Reliable and cheap to run, at $30800 the Pogona Trophy might not be the cheapest option, but good engineering make a strong case for it. You could say service costs are somewhat higher than other cars we tested, but at this point it’s just nitpicking.
A very strong entry. We found no significant issues in this first test, out of all the cars submitted, the Pogona scores the highest in the racing priorities and does well in the other two.
@Xepy, @SpeedyBoi & @chiefzach2018 - Nanahoshi ReViZe Super Silhouette Cup
With styling clearly inspired by the Group 5 cars of the 70s and early 80s, this silhouette racecar looks stunning and lacks any kind of driving aids. A low top speed and a small NA engine hurts it’s prestige though.
Fun and easy to drive, drivers love the Nanahoshi, although some complained about it being more uncomfortable than other cars tested. Safety equipment is up to modern standards, maybe a bit over the average.
Where this car truly shines is in maintenance. With a starting price of $24000, service costs under $900 and good fuel economy, the Nanahoshi is the favorite of the teams. Most importantly, this things are bulletproof. If you have any mechanichal issues with one it’s probably your fault.
Out of all of the cars submitted, this one scores the highest in the maintenance priorities whithout sacrificing any of the other categories.
After evaluating these seven cars, we decided to discard some of them and chose these for further evaluation:
On to the finals:
@Ritz - Norrsken Pogona Trophy
@Xepy, @SpeedyBoi & @chiefzach2018 - Nanahoshi ReViZe Super Silhouette Cup
Honorable mention:
@iivansmith & @kookie - Homada Kochi CUP.
A strong car that could have made it with a couple of different choices.
I boxed too close to the sun.
Ah well, it was fun!
REVIEWS PART 2
It’s time for the second test day. On this one we’ll test the six remaining cars, the ones that lap the airfield in under 1:15.00.
@ErenWithPizza - V8 PowerCup
As the name implies, this prestigious racecar is powered by a good old V8. It has a great looking retro inspired design and no driving aids, emulating the racecars of the past.
It’s surprisingly comfortable, although it can be a bit of a handful to drive. The V8 Powercup might not be the sportiest or the safest car, but it isn’t terrible either.
At $32000, it’s the cheapest car in this round by some margin. Reliability is pretty good, although the big V8 is a bit thirsty and service costs are a bit too high.
A very strong car in some areas that has some weaknesses, although none of them are crippling.
@Fantic2000 & @karhgath - Belvoir Velistra BRD Cup
A gorgeous and prestigious little GT car. Design might seem a bit simple to some, but it’s executed perfectly. Considering it has no driving aids, this might be THE fan favourite.
While it’s not the easiest to drive, it’s a very enjoyable experience one you get used to the handling. There’s also some comfort too, not much but enough to get a mention. Excellent safety equipment completes this strong package.
At over $40k, the Velistra BRD is not among the cheapest entries, and service costs can go up to almost $2k. However, excellent reliability and good fuel economy sweeten the deal.
A strong entry that scores the highest in the excitement priorities. It even does quite well in maintenance considering it’s price.
@Isabella - Hexe Kirrilee SRC
The Kirrilee comes equipped with both TC and ABS, and even though it’s pretty fast it’s not that prestigious. Design is just okay, although it actually has some very nice small details.
This is the fastest car entered, so it’s a good thing that it’s also the safest. It’s also fun and easy to drive, so the on-track experience is very good, even if some comfort would have been nice.
Even if the Kirrilee SRC is reliable, running costs aren’t low. High fuel consumption and service costs make this car more expensive in the long run.
If we only count the racing priorities, this car is among the strongests entries. Unfortunately, it sacrifices too much to achieve that.
@supersaturn77 - KPAW Sharp-MR Konkurrenz
We’re a bit conflicted about the design of this one. We like the concept, but it feels a bit empty and the colour doesn’t help either. Other than that, it’s a prestigious car even if it has TC and ABS.
Our test drivers describe the handling as challenging but fun. Safety systems are what you would expect of a modern car but nothing exceptional.
On maintenance, reliability is good and service costs aren’t too high. Fuel economy is a bit too high when compared to other entries, but the main issue is the price at over $40k.
It has some advantages and some disadvantages, but overall they mostly balance to make a pretty average car. Certainly not the best, but you could do much worse.
@the-chowi - Crowley Scythia Cup 550
A beautiful and well made racecar. We’re sure the fans would like it even if it comes with TC and ABS and it isn’t that prestigious.
The Scythia Cup is pretty fast, and according to our drivers pretty fun too. Some did complain that for a car with traction aids it should be easier to drive though. The safety equipment is just above average of all the cars entered.
Decent fuel economy is the best we can say for the maintenace priorities. High service costs and terrible reliability are an awful combination, and with a price of exactly $50k this issues are hard to justify.
While it’s an interesting proposal in the other categories, the terrible maintenance score is hard to ignore.
@ZAROM4 - Layton R8/375 “Mako”
Prestigious and without driving aids, the Mako sounds like a fan favourite… except for the design. The concept is pretty good, an open top purpose built racecar sounds great, but unfortunately the execution isn’t as good.
This isn’t a car for beginners, the Mako is very hard to drive. It’s a good thing then that safety systems are some of the best you can find. It’s also very rewarding, if you can keep it under control you’ll have a great time with it.
Maintenance isn’t the worst but it’s pretty bad. Yes, fuel economy and service costs are decent, but with a starting price of $53300 it’s hard to justify the terrible reliability.
With some more work in design this could have been a pretty good entry. Engineering has a couple of glaring issues in drivability and reliability, but it’s actually not that bad.
After evaluating these six cars, we decided to discard some of them and chose these for further evaluation:
On to the finals:
@Fantic2000 & @karhgath - Belvoir Velistra BRD Cup
Honorable mention:
@ErenWithPizza - V8 PowerCup
It’s a really cool car, but the racing priorities scored just above average, while the actual finalists are near (or at) the top in all three categories.
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FINALS
With only three cars left, the federation hosted a final test session where they will compare directly to each other.
In terms of design, the Pogona is clearly behind the other two, it’s not a bad design, but the Velistra and the ReViZe both look amazing. They’re very different concepts, but both are great. None of these three has any driving aids, so they’re equal there. The ReViZe does fall behind in terms of prestige when compared to the other two, specially the Velistra.
The Velistra and the ReViZe are equally fun to drive, with the Pogona being close to them. The three cars are very close in safety, with the Velistra having the advantage. It’s the hardest to drive though, while no one can match the handling of the Pogona. As expected, comfort is bad for all cars, although the Velistra and the Pogona have a slight advantage over the ReViZe.
The ReViZe isn’t only cheaper, it also has lower service costs. The Pogona hits a middle point on both stats, with the Velistra being significantly more expensive to buy and service than the other two. The ReViZe is the most reliable car entered, with the Velistra being a distant second. The Pogona is also reliable, but not as much as the other finalists. It should be noted that the difference between the ReViZe and the Velistra is bigger than the one between the Velistra and the Pogona. Fuel economy is close, with the Velistra being the most fuel efficient.
After careful evaluation of these three cars, the federation made a decision:
Results
Here are the results for the top 8. I’ve included the placements of each car in each category. Keep in mind these are out of the 19 cars that made it past the bins.
8 - @AMuteCrypt - AVM Super A-Cup
A charming and fun car. It might have been a flawed concept, but it still performed quite well.
(E: 11th, R: 7th, M: 7th)
7 - @Kreator - ACZ Arya Champ
Competent engineering, but design wasn’t up to the top cars. Also a bit lacking in personality in my opinion.
(E: 10th, R: 10th, M: 4th)
6 - @Oreology - Arusa Kunai Cup Car
One of the best designs. Engineering is decent, but it’s below the top cars in most stats.
(E: 6th, R: 13th, M: 8th)
5 - @ErenWithPizza - V8 PowerCup
Really cool car, it stands out from the competition. Unfortunately, it places too low in the racing priorities.
(E: 3rd, R: 14th, M: 9th)
4 - @iivansmith & @kookie - Homada Kochi CUP
One of my personal favourites, so it hurts that it wasn’t good enough for the finals. Similar issue to the previous car.
(E: 7th, R: 15th, M: 3rd)
3 - @Fantic2000 & @karhgath - Belvoir Velistra BRD Cup
A combination of great design and engineering. It’s only issue is that the other finalists were cheaper and also very good cars.
(E: 1st, R: 4th, M: 6th)
2 - @Ritz - Norrsken Pogona Trophy
Weaker than the other finalists in design, but engineering is really good. It’s only the best in drivability, but it places high everywhere.
(E: 5th, R: 1st, M: 5th)
1 - @Xepy, @SpeedyBoi & @chiefzach2018 - Nanahoshi ReViZe Super Silhouette Cup
Good everywhere, love the retromodern design. What really makes this a winner is maintenance. It’s scores better than a car that costs less than half it’s price and has better SVC.
(E: 2nd, R: 3rd, M: 1st)
Wow, real pleased with that, aim for top 5 and got 2nd, will definitely take that.
Thanks to @Danicoptero for hosting, was a super fun challenge to do and it definitely served as a perfect challenge to rekindle my motivation for challenges and automation in general.
Congrats to @Xepy, @SpeedyBoi and @chiefzach2018 for winning, amazing work.
For anyone wanting to take a closer look of my car, ill provide the file below.
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Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to go back to edging to the GTA 6 jiggle physics
Mind if I ask what the E, R, M rankings are in the final rankings?
99% procent sure that the three judged categories, ”Entertainment”, ”Racing” and ”Maintenance”
Yeah, that’s it.
We will gladly take 4th place with the Kochi