The Car Shopping Round (Round 64): Tears in Heaven

[strop]

Re: all those proposals, I do agree that the effort required to review 30 cars to a satisfactory depth is massive and requires time and efficiency. That’s why we increased reviewing time in the first place.

But I’m loath to institute much more regulation or process, especially adding an extra person in the mix. That’s subject to at least twice as much liability, more because of coordination required. I do recall making it mandatory to advertise your car when entering although I appreciate that some people sometimes don’t have time to do this. All I would suggest there is that people who don’t publicise their car can’t be reasonably expected for the reviewers to take the pictures either.

The only other thing I can think of is to restrict numbers of entries but I feel thay would be wildly unpopular

[Darkshine5]

I completely agree with leaving the formula as it is. It works its unique its fun… everybody that enters a round should be aware of the responsibilty of hosting the next round. Thats why i dont enter every round. Not because i dont want to but because i know i could not host a decent round because of RL commitments.

In regards to using a “announcer” for each round that will never work here as it would take away the individuals point of view. My comps are all based from a racing view so having a commentator that remains the same works ( I hope )

[Madrias]

Also agreeing to leave the formula as it is. If you create a round, you know full well that there’s every possibility for a lot of entries.

Sure, I enter nearly every round, but if I know I can’t possibly run a round, or I’m not feeling up to it (like being in cooldown for a while after the mess I made of CSR 22), I enter junk that shouldn’t win.

As for restricting entries, I think it’s actually a bad idea. It encourages rush-jobs, poor design work, and shoddy engineering to get your foot in the door rather than actually taking your time to make your cars look good. If it comes down to it, the round host can always choose to eliminate early instead of reviewing everything in the event that time starts closing in.

So, in the end, I think the week for entries plus three days for reviews works well enough. It certainly has kept the pace of the Car Shopping Round up.

As for people with lists of CSR ideas, I’ll admit I have a few ideas, but they’re very rough right now. I’m mostly trying to decide which one of three or four ideas I should break away from being CSR and go drop it in the challenge forum.

[BobLoblaw]

Day three:

Soldado (ramthecowy)

Worden: AWD certainly seems to be popular among our entries, the Soldado is an AWD wagon driven by a 3.8L V6 Good for 278 horsepower (Happy?). The engine does seem rather weak along the bottom end when pushed to high RPMs. Some better internals would’ve probably been a wiser choice. The design looks upscale, almost like a luxury car. Service costs are about mid-range and fuel efficiency is average. A price of $14,520 means we could buy 17 units.

Levinstein: The Soldado treats me with a spacious interior and some decent quality seating and radio entertainment. I took it out for a spin, the car remained well planted on the ground when I started to get rough. One thing I noticed was the lack of traction control, but with the way this car is geared, you would hardly know it. I continued to test it’s performance when all hell broke loose. All of a sudden I lost all power, the dash lights went insane and smoke started pouring out form under the hood.

Worden: I popped open the hood, it was steam that was coming out, not smoke. The coolant overflow tank was boiling over due to the car severely overheating. A phone session with the company informed me of a recall due to improper cooling passages, this one was overlooked and sent out. A replacement was arranged for delivery.

Levinstein: Once I got in the replacement car I wasted no time thrashing about in it. No warning lights came on the dash so I was not worried. The car sported a less than ideal safety rating, not the worst I’ve seen but definitely on the low side. Braking distance was within a good distance at least with no signs of fade. A run around the Proving Course brought about a time of 1:07.74.

Hayes: Okay, I think Marc is feeling a little confident, he showed up to work wearing a fake mustache and a cowboy hat. As I went after Levinstein, he had the advantage from the beginning. The acceleration and handling is average at best, and that wasn’t good enough to catch the Trance Am.

Solo Fleet Interceptor (thecarlover)

Worden: The Solo Fleet Interceptor is another entry in a list of RWD V8 sedans. Under the hood is a 4.6L V8 producing 248 horsepower. Both the car and powertrain appear to be of solid construction which means less down time and a lesser workload for the motor pool. The only concern I have is the use of standard steel body panels, no kind of anti-corrosion treatment appears to have been made. This could prove problematic for long-term use. Our older cars are already giving us a considerable headache with fighting rust on top of mechanical breakdowns. Fuel efficiency is average but service costs are low which is a good thing. The Solo Fleet Interceptor comes with a price tag of $14,630 which means 17 units could be replaced in our fleet.

Levinstein: I had to work a little harder with this one to keep it under control but it wasn’t too bad. I am a tad concerned about the safety ratings, I understand the desire to cut costs as our city is on a strict budget, though I don’t know if safety is the first choice I would cut. Braking distance is average though I did notice some fade under heavy use. She pulled a 1:07.33 on the Proving Course.

Hayes: Once again I was left in the dust by Levinstein.

Nickel 4 Spec (LEP) (DoctorNarfy)

Worden: The 4 Spec looks to be your standard sedan, it’s roomy, it has plenty of cargo space, it’s also pretty solid in construction. Under the hood it gets a little curious. A 5.0L V8 sits under the hood but only produces 210 horsepower. Strangely that’s on premium fuel as well. Service costs are on the low side and fuel economy is at least decent. Pricing starts ad $14,630 allowing for 17 purchases.

Worden: This car had the highest level of unintended wheelspin out of any vehicles I’ve tested. Fortunately it’s still within easily manageable levels. The anemic engine really hurts performance. Braking distance is reasonable with no signs of fade that I can see. Around the proving course it pulled a 1:09:26. Barely an improvement over the Gran Romero.

Hayes: This is certainly among the slower of the cars we’ve tested. The engine is of good build quality, though it sacrifices too much performance. That combined with somewhat sluggish handling prevented me from apprehending the suspect.

Honorable mentions: Highest Practicality stat.

NVP - MPD 27 (findRED19)

Worden: This is probably one of the most solid cars I’ve seen so far. The proportions look a little odd, but we’re not shopping for looks, we’re shopping for cars that do well. Under the hood sits a 302 horsepower 5.4L V8. The engine seems well optimized and looks like it can handle just about anything thrown at it. This car surprised us by having a higher quality interior than most sedans would use. I am concerned that the cost could have been better spent elsewhere. Fuel economy is a bit below average among the group and service costs are in the mid to high ranges. The car is pricey at $20,680 limiting us to 12 units, but from the looks of things, it wouldn’t necessarily be a bad investment.

Levinstein: This is certainly a comfortable car to sit in. The real test will be to see if they remembered that this is supposed to be a police interceptor. Taking it out on the road, I find it to be reasonably simple to maintain control. The brakes perform remarkably well and hold up under duress without fade. I was able to whip this bad boy around the Proving Course in 1:03.51. I’m feeling good about this one.

Hayes: After the last few cars, I was getting a little frustrated. That changed with this car. The Montauk screamed through town with Marc giving it all it had… and I stuck right with him the whole way.

Honorable Mentions: Second Highest Engine Reliability Stat (By .01) Highest Average Reliability stat

Delta Adept (Strop)

Worden: And another Euro-style wagon comes into play. This one maks use of a 3.0L turbocharged inline six producing 233 horsepower. A curious feature is a five speed sequential transmission. This makes the second car we’ve looked at to use such a transmission. Despite being unusual I can’t find any fault with it. The car delivers excellent fuel efficiency but service costs are a tad on the high side. The MSRP of $14,630 allows for 17 units to be purchased.

Levinstein: This thing was a tad less disciplined on the road than I would have liked but overall it’s not too bad. Braking distance is in the healthy median while risk of fade is nil. This one makes it around the Proving Course in 1:05.38.

Hayes: I was able to keep a reasonable pace with Marc. Had this been an actual chase he would have had a hard time trying to shake me in this car.

JHW M.R.P.V. (JohnWaldock)

Worden: Another funny looking car, but seems decently assembled. The engine is a 3.7L twin turbo V6 producing 325 horsepower. The engine looks like it’s working a little too hard for the job it’s assigned, hopefully that wouldn’t lead to problems down the road. The car has sub-average fuel economy while requiring higher service expenses. $17,880 per car would enable us to purchase 13 vehicles.

Levinstein: A little bit tricky to keep steady but she pulls through all right. The turbo spools up at a reasonable pace so you don’t have to worry about it kicking you hard when accelerating. The AWD setup provides no unintentional wheelspin allowing me to take off without concern. Braking is a good average with no signs of fade. I was able to manage a time of 1:06.80 around the Course.

Hayes: Mark opened up a bit of a lead on me early on, but I was able to stick fairly close to him throughout the chase.

Force Zeta (koolkei)

Worden: Looks can be deceiving. I initially expected a transverse four banger but was instead treated to a longitudinal 4.0L V6 producing 305 horsepower. The car appears to be well engineered and looks like it could withstand a fair bit of abuse. A pleasant treat was a look at the low service costs and the exceptional fuel efficiency. $14,630 per car means 17 units for the fleet.

Levinstein: This car stays well planted when driving it hard. Exceptionally disciplined while maneuvering. A bit of wheelspin at start but no difficulty managing it. Good braking distance and no signs of fade under heavy use. This one made it around the course in 1:07.38.

Hayes: This was no chase, this was a game of grabass. I was on him like glue the whole way around.

hexler (dracoautomations)

Worden: This thing looks pretty sharp, I’m not much for wagons but I like the general shape of this one. (opens hood) Oh dear, a transverse 2.0L four cylinder, normally aspirated. And the spec sheet shows 132 horsepower on tap. This engine looks in a poor way too, I started it up, and it almost felt like it was going to shake apart. A sign of low grade internals I bet. The materials used to build the car looks like they show a great deal of resistance to corrosion over time. Fuel efficiency isn’t too bad either, shouldn’t be with a manual four banger. Service costs are exceedingly high, no doubt due to the questionable engine. The interior looks like they made an effort to produce a high end setup, Not where I would’ve focused my funds personally. The hexler costs $14,520 each which means we could buy 17 of them.

Levinstein: Well, I’m treated to a nice, comfortable interior, but that’s about all that seems decent about this car. Braking distance is reasonable but there is a sign of fade after hard use. The hexler is light but the acceleration is anemic compared to other vehicles we’ve tested. It does a 1:10.92 around our Proving Course.

Hayes: I started the chase not expecting much, and I was correct. This thing was way too slow to conduct pursuit.

Honorable mentions: Highest Environmental Resistance.

cruiser mk3 (germanbeamer)

Worden: The cruiser mk3 looks to be a pretty solid engineered sedan. Rather peculiar was the 6.0L V8 under the hood which only produced 300 horsepower. Seems rather low for an engine of that size, especially running on premium fuel. Speaking of which, it’s fuel economy is nothing to write home about. Service costs are also in the middle to high range. The cars cost $15,950 each which means we could get 15 of them.

Levinstein: It’s a reasonably comfortable large sedan. I feel that the cruiser mk3 is a little too compromised when it comes to safe design however. The brakes hold up well under duress though the car did stop ten feet beyond the average stopping distance that we’ve tested so far. The cruiser mk3 pulled a rather slow 1:09.08 around the course.

Hayes: The pursuit did not go well, try as I might, the Montauk just kept pulling farther and farther away.

LICORNE WAPITI Police vehicle (Darkshine5)

Worden: An aggressive looking sedan, the Wapiti uses a 4.9L V8 cranking out 351 horsepower. Overall the engine and car don’t look as durable as other models tested, but the car looks to be decent enough. Service costs are on the mid to high range while fuel economy is slightly below average. At a price of $17,270, we could buy 14 units.

Levinstein: This one is a beast that needs taming, very brutal on the road. I had to fight this one more than the others to stay in control. It’s got a reasonably comfortable interior, and boasts a good safety rating. Braking distance is ideal with no signs of fade. This beast rocks out a 1:02.12 around the Proving Course.

Hayes: I can think of only one thing to say when driving this beast: BRUAHAHAHAHAHA!!! This monster absolutely SMOKED the suspect! It gets a little unruly around tough corners but not so much that we can’t correct them.

Collating data, winner results pending.

[Denta]

@BobLoblaw

(Happy?)

im giggling on that for some reason

Koolkei and Strop seems more solid than i expect, track time wise im quite confident for on my own entries

[BobLoblaw]

We have certainly come across a wide, diverse selection of vehicles to choose from. Some proved exceptionally well, others, not so much. Obviously the biggest factor involved was the car’s ability to catch the bad guys, those that failed were stricken from the list. Next was to determine the other factors. Some excelled in some areas but failed in others. I had to find a good balance between performance, upkeep, safety, utility (cargo space and such) not to mention driveability. Comfort was more of a within reason category. For the pursuit challenge you didn’t necessarily have to be faster than the suspect, just able to stay close within two seconds of each section (many did it within one) and to not exceed four seconds behind overall time. As is there were a number of vehicles that proved even faster than the suspect vehicle which made the decision easier. Obviously the number of cars we can replace plays a large factor in too. After some intense brainstorming and consideration (and a tad awkward given the last person to post) I announce that the next vehicles to be used by the Tatum Heights Police Department will be:

The Pragata Gentala Dinas

I went through all the submissions and determined that this one offers the best between all stats to provide what we are looking for. It fits well with reliability, safety, service costs. Fuel economy is average but not below acceptable levels. The lack of a radio is a bit of an annoyance but with police gear installed it won’t be much of a problem. The other negative attribute is the use of alloy wheels, but overall I feel the Pragata Gentala Dinas meets our requirements nicely. It uses regular fuel which means we won’t have to change around our infrastructure, and it uses an automatic transmission which means all our officers can drive it with no issues. The decent price means we can also buy fifteen units to replace our oldest cars and a good chunk of our aging 1985 Gran Romeros. Effectively we will be revamping 60% of our fleet.

So congratulations to Denta for winning the CSR 27.

[BobLoblaw]

P.S. I hope you like the livery I set up for the photo.

[abg7]

Excellent work @Denta! By winning a round for the first time, you have just made up for the disappointment of finishing a very close second in the previous round.

What rule set will @Denta come up with for the next round? Whatever it is, it has to be enjoyable for the entrants. He deserved to win… Besides, I’m a sucker for wagon bodystyles - all the advantages of a sedan but with extra practicality when you need it the most. Anyway, many thanks to @BobLoblaw for those detailed reviews!

[koolkei]

it is a VERY optional thing. if you really wanted to host something but don’t have much time, use this basic structure, but please modify it with your style. and true, you should consider the amount of work. but no one could predict how much participant, and along with it, how much work that you would need to do.

of course, that is if the majority agrees. which it seems to be split, or even leaning towards a “meh, nah”?

anyway @denta. congrats buddy. nice work with that wagon
[spoiler]next round please. GAK PAKE LAMA[/spoiler]

[Denta]

welp, i really dont expect it. thanks for livery @BobLoblaw

for teaser, hopely you guys dont mind to deal with one of the worst country to be car enthusiast since im gonna use that as theme

[koolkei]

are we gonna make a honda fit/jazz look alike and call it an enthusiast car again?

because that’s pretty much what’s happening here irl

[Denta]

i dont wanna to spoil, it basically i wanna see how people deal with our car taxation regulation which basically become biggest barrier. and screw any form of hatchback or entry sport car that exist in this country, im want more than just BRZ/86/Copen/MX-5/Civic Type-R.

just wait and see, probably i gonna publish it on this noon. still have some stuff to deal with for this morning

[koolkei]

why not the 90s? it’s our golden years of enthusiast sports car. a plethora of mitsubishi sedans especially.

[KLinardo]

Any chance on getting like a one sentence explanation for each car’s shortcoming in reaching your decision? Or maybe at least for the top contenders you were considering?

Like: “Boss Motorsports - does well in X, Y, and Z but too costly and uncomfortable.”

And congrats to @Denta.

[findRED19]

Yes! Honorable Mentions for Reliability!
(I did set 70 as my minimum for both the engine and overall average)

Great reviewing! Plenty of detail to keep us interested, and short enough to manage.

[HighOctaneLove]

Congrats @Denta on achieving victory for round 27!!!

Thankyou @BobLoblaw for an interesting competition premise and hard fought challenge!!!

[strop]

Great round. Congrats Denta! As a byproduct of the rules being so compelling, like Klinardo I’m quite keen to see where the entries stacked up, where they excelled or fell flat. For example I thought my entry was solid, but was it more comfy where it didn’t matter, and were the servicing costs really that high? With a drivability of over 60 I thought it was quite reasonable but it was apparently not very good, which I found surprising, maybevdue to the preponderance of AWD? Questions abound!

[ramthecowy]

@strop

With a drivability of over 60 I thought it was quite reasonable

Mine had 73 and I thought that was good… until Madrias’ car got highest drivability

[Madrias]

You weren’t far off.

[Denta]

CSR 28, A New hope for Indonesian car enthusiast

Greetings everyone, my name is Bayu, 28 years old and i live in Bekasi near Jakarta’s border. I’m the owner of Urb’s Cafe and Urb’s Snack Truck that specializes on Beef Burger, smoothies and Ice Cream. What makes my franchise unique is, we never really have a menu since we let our customer create customizes their own order with lots of varieties and we are using a big box truck instead van sized one. Though i already own my own franchise, i still stay and work with my parent still help their work of being a big wedding organizer business in Jakarta to help finance my business, since my business is still limited to Malang, Surabaya, and Kuta, and i’m not satisfied yet. Soon enough, a new branch will open Jakarta, Yogyakarta, and Bandung but not in this or next year since i need further planning.

This year in 2016, ASEAN(yes, this good for nothing regional organization still working for some reason) just signed a deal to remove any tariff on any cars that are assembled in ASEAN member country, and less taxation on car sales. this is their plan to lure more investor i believe. even though i’m not really interested in political economy or the politic itself, this is kind of a good news for me, since it’s possible for someone to produce a car that is outside of the usual comfort zone(aka BORING), plus i never really had my own car for many reason.

I’m quite picky for cars that i like, boys will be boys they said. Indonesia’s situation right now makes import car hard to shine, due to how big the barrier is, along with how low the average consumer’s buying power is. Thanks to displacement tax, anything bigger 1500cc will be hard to sale. While displacement isn’t everything, it seems that no automotive manufacturer is trying to make a sporty trim with a higher power output, what you get from a sport trim in here is only lips, spoiler and badge with no performance upgrade whatsoever and the engine power output is basically same as the other trim or only a little higher. Another problem i see is the lack of car features because of price cutting, quality also gets killed alongside it. And the most horrible one? Safety features also get ripped just for cheaper price, let alone airbag, driver assist like traction control and ABS is an option for higher trim and sometimes they don’t even offer it! Some of them even use 2 point seatbelts for the back seats, and i even heard that their airbag is triggered 1 sec AFTER the crash. From what i see, a 90’s car is more durable than any new cheap car and on par in case of safety. This trend, i believe, has already been running since 2006 after the birth of our very first cheap car.

However, i feel like this is the time to find a car for my own, car that really suit me instead of what’s available to me. Besides, there’s Jakarta ASEAN Car Expo(JACE) in December for any car that produced in South East Asia, there should be plenty of selection. Here are the 3 car category that i wanted.

Bro SUV

Most of the times i use my dad’s 2010 Mitshubishi Pajero Sport 4x4 with manual transmission, he is a big fan of off-roading but old age already got his knees 3 years ago, Jakarta traffic jam and manual transmission is too harsh for his knee, plus he would rather drive himself. for now he drives 2011 Mercedes Benz E 250 that used to be a rental car for newly-weds since it has automatic transmission.

Back to the Pajero Sport, before and after dad switched to the Mercedes, i drove it a lot, especially when i’m working with my dad, since i’m sort of my parent’s second in command in case my dad/mom needs me to go somewhere to pick or look something up they need and it become more and more frequent after dad barely uses his car. I like to travel outside the town with my friends just for our “boys times”, most of the times there are 4 of us including me and sometimes 6 or even more. believe it or not, this thing’s fuel economy is quite unbelievable, about 10km/l on crowded road and even more when i’m able to cruise in a very stable speed(with passengers!), not the most powerful, but 160HP with 300Nm Torque is enough for our shenanigans, and for a plus side, it can go through flood and mud without any problem, with the help of ride height. It’s quite good for an about Rp560.000.000 SUV in 2010(converts to $42k in 2016) and very fancy, even for a car that was produced in 2010, touch screen radio with GPS isn’t something you’ll see often even for that price range in that year. I dont mind having my SUV since they can carry a lot of people without problem, though i can borrow my dad’s car in case i need to carry more than 5 people.

The all rounder Performance Wagon

I’m a giant fan of Nissan Stagea 260RS and Audi RS6 Avant Quattro C6, who doesnt want monster engine that can run wild and can carry 5 people with bigger cargo than sedan/hatchback in public road without problems? Sadly i’m born 10 years too late for the Stagea since importing used car is illegal and back in 2011 when i was asking to a local car importer for RS6 Avant Quattro C6 he ask about Rp 5.5 Billion for on the road price, you can get Porsche 911 GT3 RS or Lamborghini Gallardo with that you damn robber! Just because no one buys it and it has a V10 doesn’t mean you can rip me off, sadly price negotiation didn’t end well, even though i believe the RS6 Avant Quattro price doesn’t go for more than GBP 95.000 but, hell they asked too much, same with other import dealers. the price they were asking pretty much doesn’t even go lower more than Rp 5 billion, wonder why.

Yes, Audi Indonesia sell the latest Audi RS4 Avant Quattro with price mark about Rp 2.6 Billion, i love to have one but with a lot perfomance gap between the RS6? Meh. Situation doesn’t even help dad mocking me with “just buy Honda Odyssey or Mitsubishi Grandis if you want Stagea”, yeah they’re nice in term of fuel, features, and comfort but not with perfomance. With all this stupid cheap MPV trend that mostly advertises fuel millage that are 60% off from the reality (20km/l? keep dreaming with that build quality) and high ground clearance(HAHA! Dont have anything to boost in your car? Probably still gonna scrape those random concrete speedbump) it’s gonna be hard to find any wagon with decent perfomance, current sporty trim gimmick won’t work on me sadly. I just want a pratical wagon that are able to give me that pull excitement.

The Fun Sport Machine

When we talk about good new sports car but not super car in Indonesia, most people are gonna point us to either Civic Type-R(which seems lost his prestige in last 15 years), MX-5(is always the answer, right?) or the ToyoBaru 86/BRZ(aka Takumi disappointment). Three of them basically the under Rp 800 Million ($60k) sports car with less 200HP. which basically kinda falls into the entry sport car category outside this country, probably. They’re nice on track and quite good outside the track to some extend, but it’s gonna be boring if you compare it to late 80’s Indonesia sport car legend, BMW E30, Mercedes Benz 190E Cosworth and Mistubishi Galant VR4. While they’re not punchiest sport car in the global market, they’re more than enough here. while they also has everything that a performance oriented car should have. Back to 2016, you wont get any car like that, perfect example, with price mark under Rp 2 billion($150k), mostly because all of that unnecessary features that has already become a standard today or they become something that’s very exclusive even just for weight saving features.

When im looking a perfect car for this, probably i’m not gonna really care about track times, we only have one track that is a poorly maintained circuit aka Sentul circuit. You cant even really enjoy the highways for high speed too. from what i heard, the Audi R8 can go up to 260km/h, but with a lot of shaking due poor road, i don’t know if someone will dare go more than that, but maybe im the one who’s gonna try to push my luck, if i have car that is able to reach 250km/h and go further without problems. though it not gonna be the most fuel friendly car, but whatever. The only thing that maybe that i can really enjoy from having this car is, red light drag race at a random junction, but racing random ricer car with fart cannon or stupid biker that think his stripped bike make them have a speed boost isn’t that fun. my dad Pajero Sport is more than enough to smoke most of them, for the note, i brake check them slightly near the next red light if i have decent gap for extra funsies and indirect mocking.

General Rules

For my budget maximum budget is $90.000, i can only buy one car, so feel free which category you want to choose. i’m gonna have more tolerance for the price of a sports car, slightly less tolerant on a wagon, and not so tolerant on an SUV. so if you are going to make an expensive SUV, you better make it really worth it, or else it’s just scrap and i’m gonna pick the sports car

We have tax based on displacement, although this year car tax sales is much lighter and more simplified by removing tax based on car body type. but the tax is still potentially ruining car price.
Under 1300cc: no tax
1300cc-1500cc: 10% tax
1500cc-2500cc: 20% tax
2500cc-3000cc: 40% tax
Above 3000cc: 125% tax

Car must have at least 50% price mark up

For your car price: (your default car price + 50% price mark up)+car tax based on your price

Looks is important so my dad won’t mock me, bonus if you don’t use normal colour like black, white, silver and any common car colour that you can think of since i kinda want different colour than most car

For fuel that available we only have 4 option for gas, use this as running cost reference instead using in game fuel cost:
Premium, 88 RON, Rp 6500/litre ($0.49/L)
Pertalite, 90 RON, Rp 6.900/litre ($0.52/L)
Pertamax, 91 RON Rp 7.600/litre($0.57/L)
Pertamax Turbo, 98 Ron, Rp 8.700/litre($0.65/L)

For fuel millage, SUV and wagon is gonna be a big concern, but not really for the fun sports car

Indonesia’s road is really horrible, if you use German road standard, too many non standarized speedbumps and poorly built bumpy road is gonna be nightmare for low vehicle so i hope most car have 170cm ride height

For tyres, 255 is the maximum width with at least 40 tyre profile, wider and thin tyres is quite expensive, besides thin tyres not gonna handle well on bumpy road.

Road matter related again, make sure you tune your car for road, not for tracks

We’re in tropical country with 35°C as average during normal afternoon in the city. Too many super cars overheats during a traffic jam so i hope you have extra 20% cooling airflow just for safety measure

No tolerance on any price cutting measures AKA no minus quality

both engine and car reliability is 65

No car body years limits

Naming:
Car model: CSR28 - username
Car trim: any
Engine family: CSR28 - username
Engine variant: any

Deadline is 15 December