And that is how 10L v8s end up slaying in a budget performance contest on Automation 
is 16.96km/l good enough for an NA? (39.89 US MPG)
At just a smidge over 6L/100km, thatâs Mazda Skyactiv bullshit magic levels of good⊠If your car weighs 1300kg.
welllllll it doesnât
but i can make my viper tuned down to 300-310 ish to get somewhat similiar figures with over 1300kgs
btw⊠seeing the price limit was $22k⊠i was for a minute even tempted to put an e-diff on my car⊠nope. turns out my car is already higher than the competitorâŠ
Yeah, I kinda of didnât really want to use that body either since it is so large but once I began testing it after HOL gave it the all clearâŠwell it looked so right I ended up scrapping all my other ideas and pushing ahead with that one.
Forgot to mention mines also running on medium compound 225/45/R19 tyres with alloy rims and of course, It also uses no fancy suspension tech and just a basic limited slip diff.
Also forgot to include this or make a proper stats screen combo since I wasted all my time on the photoshops
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Also, TIL the Viper body fits four seats⊠
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i got curiousâŠ
and so 337 HP from a 3.5L V8 sitting on the non-viper body that weighs 1300kg-ish that gets 38.8 MPG
but this is supra level. so nah.
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And thatâs a wrap! The competition is now closed so hold onto your seats folks! 
I have received submissions from the following peopleâŠ
@Denta, @Leonardo9613, @Madrias, @Rk38, @abg7, @thecarlover, @4LGE, @Darkshine5, @DoctorNarfy, @nialloftara, @strop, @AirJordan, @EnryGT5, @JohnWaldock, @LordLetto, @DracoAutomations, @koolkei, @TheUltimateD00M, @lordvader1.
Thankyou all who participated; this is my first attempt at hosting anything and the quality of entries has made my job more difficult that expected!
My intention is to have results posted in a few hours but I intend to be done, at the latest, by the end of the dayâŠ
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Shoot, I didnât realize youâre timezone was so far into the future, itâs still 4.5 hours till the 22nd even starts here.
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Part 1 - Preamble and the first cars on the chopping block!
Before I begin I want to say that I received a lot of really good cars, so donât be upset if your car isnât crowned no.1 as by participating youâre already a winner! 
The design brief for this competition was simple; a fun to drive, small and easy to manufacture small car that will allow young people to experience the thrill of driving. Thatâs what Toyota set out to do with the RL 86 and, IMO, they achieved everything they set out to do. The 86âs main flaws lie in itâs drivetrain as the boxer 4 isnât as easy to mod and/or tune as Toyota was hoping and the styling wasnât as stylish as it could have been.
So with that in mind, here is part 1 of the rebirth of the 86!
Good try but not good enoughâŠ
Three cars were knocked out early due to being either flawed in their setup or flawed in their execution. The end result was a poor showing on the Haruna Downhill. The cut-off was set at 5 minutes exactly and each car failed for different, yet similar, reasons.
ST-69 by @LordLetto: 5:01.11
Too much power and not enough grip. 224Kw trying to grasp the pavement through 75 series tyres does not a sporty drive make. Design language felt confused and was lacking direction and cohesion. Lower profile tyres would have helped a lot and discretion with your fixture choice and colour would have worked wonders.
Verdict: A good replacement for a Chinese copy of an 86! 
GT-75 by @lordvader1: 5:26.46
Another design with too much power but this is caused by the terrible grip levels of the tyre compound choice. 70 series hard long life tyres have no tread or inherent grip levels so the car cannot use itâs chassis properly. This car was the slowest car in the group and the tyres are to blame! Another point against this car is that the redline equals the peak power of the engine, rendering the maximum power virtually unuseable.
Verdict: Another Chinese knock-off, at least this one looks good! 
Six-Nine by @TheUltimateD00M: 5:08.72
When I loaded this car up I was expecting either a mid or rear drive car; brave but worth a shot, so long as you can fit 4 seats. But I was unpleasently surprised by the car having a FR layout, with the cab forward design lending an awkwardness to the car that wasnât very flattering from any angle. But Iâll let the best car win, not just the best looking, so when the car proved unable to out-perform the competition, the poor body choice only hastened itâs demiseâŠ
Verdict: RWD Hyundai Veloster anyone? Competent design marred by a bad choice of canvas.
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May I still submit a post presenting my submission? I was still writing on it as you started the reviews already 
I can already say, it is very likely worth it 
Absolutely! Iâm totally fine with that 
Thanks for participating!
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Ohh I had a good crack on this. How fitting it is that the virtual car company Iâm mostly using here, Tare (actually Ta-Re), is supposed to be an homage to particularly the Japanese car manufacturers.
So hereâs what Tare would offer as a âbrotherâ-car for Toyotaâs AE86 Legacy; instead of the Subaru BRZ: The Tare RAX! Tried to lean more towards making a somewhat practical car than a pure performance coupĂ©.
And no, itâs definitely not a Honda, and yes, itâll fit. 
It also features a standard issue Infotainment System. We have our own legacy to uphold, since our first rally car also featured at least a radio. But weâre going sentimental here. The Infotainment is also a good way to control, e.G. turn off our handful of driver assists, and, hereâs the cherry, how our active automatic diff, AcDiff, behaves. It can loosely lock when it detects slip, guided by traction control. It can lock when the steering is pointed straight ahead, can go well together with launch control on the drag strip. And last but not least: It can be set to lock all the time! Have it âweldedâ and unwelded at a touch of a button! With that, youâre always ready for traction! Heh.
Ohh, you also notice the â7â on the stick? Turns out printing that number on the knob prevents any crashes, so the front and side airbags theoretically arenât needed! Jokes aside, this is your lucky number for fuel economy. Cruises 120 kmph with barely over 2k RPM, the engine has enough bottom end torque to handle that easily. And if you really get into it, this could also be your lucky number for an even higher top speed if you ask the guys over at MOZI to install you a turbo! Heard they got up to 500 horses out of that engine even with stock internals still running 98! Anyways, this will already go to 269 in sixth gear. I think the gearbox alone is worth it. Nice short gearing, high speed capabilities, good quality, and not everyone has 7 gears! You could brag about this to your friends and feel like a car god with epic skills, âŠexcept your friends are truckers.
The engine, 2.4 liters, 255 horsepower, or 190 kilowatts. Itâs an inline 4, sure, but it sounds jurassic between 6000 and 8000 RPM. Yes, it revs that high, and thatâs also where its sweet spot lies! The lower revs are good and torquey for cruising, you wonât lug that engine very much. But go beyond 4000 RPM, and ACTEC comes into _ACT_ion! HehâŠ
It takes a minute and 24 seconds to go around a popular British airfield. Grippy sports tyres by standard!
All this for a raw price of 16800! And you can still deliver tofu with it, as it still has capacity left for non-sport activities!
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Iâll take that as being better than
So, Am I Improving?
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Oops.
I had this done last night but I was planning on writing a big presentation to go with it⊠Oh well, here it is then 
Thanks to rk38 for letting me use his open-source design for inspiration
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Part II - Toyota excludes designs that will prove problematic to sell worldwide
This category includes cars that have used exotic materials, exotic techniques or unviable drivetrain choices to achieve their goals. All these cars are great and only failed to take Toyota as a global entity into account!
Smooth VG-12 by @AirJordan: 4:36.02
Thereâs always one in the crowd who has to be the clown. When everyone else said âwhy?â to a V12, AirJordan said âwhy not?â. An artifact of my, in hindsight, overly generous budget and cryptic design brief, the Smooth VG-12 is fast, frugal and oh so smooth⊠But it would bankrupt anyone who wanted to own one with high registration costs, expensive maintenance and intense insurance premiums! Oh, and the 3dr upright hatch shape didnât do this submission any favours either, IMO.
Verdict: Maybe take it to Auto Salon but thumbs down from the VPâs of Production and Marketing!
Trueno by @Denta: 4:43.79
This is a really nice car let down solely by the use of titanium rods. The 86 is mass produced and titanium is expensive and mainly comes from Russia, so this precludes effective production schedules. The design is really nice and the car is well thought out so this choice was an unfortunate oversight. Good car!
Verdict: It couldâa been a contender but itâs conrods took a dive! 
Osprey Turbo by @DoctorNarfy: 4:42.79
Another contender that was let down by the use of exotic materials plus exotic building techniques! As well as a magnesium block, the Osprey has a glued aluminium chassis with FRP panels! Cutting edge, certainly, but this design isnât mass produceable and wonât be able to supply the volumes required for worldwide consumption.
Verdict: A fresh design for Lotus to build a next-gen Elise upon.
Ramia-AE by @koolkei: 4:39.86
Oh this choice hurt, it really did. The inclusion of a magnesium block killed this car. The car is punchy, fuel efficient and I personally love the look but the VP of production was adamant: Exotic equals expensive and thereâs no way around it. An excellent entry cut down before itâs time⊠
Verdict: A really nice coupe; would make a great Nissan competitor once the Mag block was changed.
DSD-Tidal by @Darkshine5: 4:46.32
If koolkeiâs exclusion hurt then this exclusion was agony! This crazy little coupe charmed me the moment I saw it and the combination of I3 power, AWD and smart choices made for a very cool concept. Yes, the design is a little OTT but it isnât ugly and is a trademark of DSD design. Titanium rods and the fact that the engine was on itâs limits is what killed this design; there was no engineering headroom for turbocharging in the aftermarket and the fuel economy wasnât great for the engine size chosen. Ironically the quirky I3, which drew me to the design, was the cause of itâs failure as an I4 or V6 would have been less stressed and wouldnât have needed the titanium!
Verdict: Would make a great Citroen to be a left-field choice against the 86.
Marauder GT by @nialloftara: 4:39.43
The perfect example of lore getting in the way of victory! No direct injection means that Toyota is not interested in your entry, despite itâs exceptional nature, plus the V8 makes it impossible for young drivers to register or insure in markets other than the USA. This car looks excellent, was well thought out and I love that itâs lore-friendly but, since Toyota used the 86 to showcase their DI prowess, the lack of DI killed it. Maybe you could have contacted one of the DI savvy companies to make some lore to justify itâs use for this competition but as it stand; Toyota says noâŠ
Verdict: Lore 1: Competition 0 (And that isnât a bad thing IMO) 
Youâve gone from one extreme to the other!
My advice? Look at RL cars and attempt to re-create their look in Automation. Once you get a feel for how RL companies do it, make your own designs with RL in mind and youâll be winning fashion contests in no time!
argh I knew I should have gone with a modern 4agze bugga but good for company lore
Part III - But what about the Supra???
Toyota is bringing back the Supra and there needs to be room to allow for it. An OP Hachiroku will only make it harder to make a Supra that lives up to itâs legacy. It is indeed possible that history could be repeated with Supra becoming a nameplate within a lesser carâs model range but this competition wasnât meanât to reflect that. So, for the first time in CSR history⊠The cars that were too powerful to compete!
For the record, the cut-off was 220Kw as I took into account that Supra might potentially go head to head with GT-R and the upscaled Hachiroku being left fighting the 370Z.
Storm Knight by @Madrias: 4:37.67
The only sedan in the competition, I had a soft spot for the Knight as it nicely sums up what Iâd like to do to my IS200; stick a 3L turbo in it! But, with 261Kw, the Knight was too powerful, forcing Supra to be 300Kw plus which wouldnât be too bad except it makes the Knight too powerful for young guns and limits the market. Being a sedan is a huge plus but the extra weight would have been felt if the engine was less powerful. In the end, there were too many coupes who did more with less for the Knight to win and being too powerful sealed itâs fate. Oh, the hood scoops, IMO, look naff so put in some vents next time! 
Verdict: Altezza Touring V anyone? 
AVD Shrike by @abg7: 4:37.06
The first cheeky bugger who tried to use Bogliq Blue to (presumably) win points and it, unfortunately, didnât work! 242Kw is 22Kw too many (220Kw was the absolute ceiling) kilowatts in this competition. I loved the inclusion of an inline six (my personal favourite engine design, lol) and the car was no slouch performance wise but too much power is just simply too much when younger drivers are concerned. Oh, the car is waayyy to chrome encrusted for a youth orientated sports coupe!
Verdict: Itâd make a great 2-Series coupe; not edgy enough for todayâs millenials! 
GT88 TRD by @thecarlover: 4:43.06
OMG!!! A replica of the RA28!!! Only my most favourite car ever!!! If I could have chosen based on my personal nostalgic feelings, this car would have won! Unfortunately Iâm roleplaying the CEO of the largest (I know, I know, you could argue either way 
) car company in the world so I have to have SOME rationality, lol. 227Kw, yup, 7Kw derailed this car and saw this challenge falter. Iâm sorry, I loved this car and I had no choiceâŠ
Verdict: A worthy successor to the RA28âs of yore, Toyota will be keeping your submission because the CEO has stolen it!
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Ah, no big deal. I wasnât aiming to win. Plus, Storm Design Philosophy is that having extra power teaches extra responsibility, extra quickly. And I know for a fact that the AluStar V6, if youâre willing to sacrifice reliability, can make some stupid amounts of power.
Or, the âSupraâ version would have had the AluStar III V8. And somewhere north of 700 horsepower. Factory stock.