From someone who adapted a CSR round into a challenge, I’d respectfully disagree. Hosting your first challenge is a major milestone, and the sense of accomplishment for being able to host one that’s not bogged down by the confines of CSR is, actually, pretty damn good.
Plus, less entries isn’t always a bad thing. The challenge I had, the Hybrid Beaters League, had 19 entries. And I’m sure most of that was because it was a non-performance-based stats challenge for making eco cars.
But I understand. Winning the CSR and getting to host a round is a great feeling. It’s also a decent way to get a confidence boost for running your own challenge. But, and this is to everyone with a CSR idea they’re just waiting to use, sometimes the best thing you can do is to try it.
Rather than trying to win the CSR, open your own challenge. At this point, you’d get less entries, more people willing to help with your planning phase, and you get to set the time limits. Then you don’t have the big ACME Anvil hanging over your head just waiting to be dropped on you if you run a little long in the CSR.
All around good rebuttal, actually. I’ll concede all points in favour of this assessment and advice. It’s make the community a bit more lively again too.
I also agree. When I hosted CSR26, I realized that the scope of that round could not be over-ambitious, for if it were, it would have to be shunted to its own thread. And considering the tight time limit for posting the reviews and results, I made drafts for the reviews of each entrant’s car as soon as I received them, leaving me with just the editing to complete after the submission deadline.
#2012 #The year that the indonesian ‘Low Cost Green Car’ class are announced
in part, an effort to stimulate the economy, and to create more jobs. the government finally announced that it is official. although the rumour has been lingering around for years, but the official rules has not been finalised. it is targeted for lower middle class families, as another option to get a family car instead of buying used. the cars has to be cheap to buy, and cheap to run, and will be getting a slight tax reduction. that’s it. PERIOD
(which is stupid. ‘green’ means EURO2 standards. in 2013. and fuck safety.)
car trim and engine variant has to be on 2013, the car lineup and engine family is free
no sedans.
since that has a ludicrous amount of tax here
minimum of 5 seats and 4 doors
luggage space are appreciated
(but if only it doesn’t effect too negatively on other criteria. + if it’s a 7 seater, i will assume the last row of seats can be folded down)
running costs are essential.
this is a car for the people in a rising 3rd world nation after all
maximum engine size of 1200cc
minimum of 20km/l (47US MPG - 56 UK MPG - 5L/100km)
Regular Fuel only
Cats are required
mufflers are actually not required, but will get you a lot of minus points for not being desirable
safety minimum 30
(yes it’s low. when the 0 safety rating car is the best selling car in the category for a year, you know something is wrong in our brain)
maximum of $11000 @ 20%
all driver aids except for steering wheel adds $500 to the price
to ‘simulate’ irl, since no LCGC class cars actually comes with them.
think lore rather than min-maxing.
ie, if a car is shit to drive, but has huge boot and can carry 7 people, the buyers may very well be willing to compromise a lot of that drivability. or the car is small, still not so driveable, but is either super economic or super cheap, people will also think twice. as it is an entry level class after all, compromises WILL exists. but also sensibility WILL matter. a super beefed up and amazing v12 car WILL NOT win because of social stigma of v12 reputation, fear of it being unreliable although that may not be based on anything, but only social stigma.
##Short version
we want a city car as practical as possible, as cheap as possible to buy and to run. but to some degrees of extremities
As an Indonesian I am familiar with the kind of car we have been asked to build (for some reason, this latest round reminds me of a mix of CSR5 and CSR28), but despite my ability to build budget cars, I don’t think I can come under budget and still deliver a competitive entry, so I am unlikely to enter this round. Then again, considering the farcical conclusion to the previous round, I might want to take a break from this contest for a while… Anyway, good luck to all the entrants!
And by the way, it’s nice to see this recurring challenge back up and running again.
@abg7 …and we LOVE to hear every single little monologue you have with yourself because you are soooooo intriguing… talking about facts we already know, and all your thoughts on every little detail.
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Had to switch to MP-EFI and SOHC. Wanted to do 4-Barrel and Pushrod, but the fuel efficiency just ruined that plan. However, my current design is HBL legal…
tips for everyone, LCGC category is pretty much like Tata Nano and driver assist like ABS still optional for basic trim. i guess budget saving is okay for fake fanciness
