the ragrets… just 1 click away to my car fulfilling the safety rule…
let’s see how i do if i did pass the test.
Track tab please?
bugger I knew i should have put a scoop on it I just was not happy with the look with a bulge. But my car was really just a factory drag car with some bells and whistles
it’s a supercar not a track monster. it has luxury everything inside. not premium, luxury interiors @$34980
just for fun i made a ‘race ready’ version
@strop yes. yes i do. but i just can’t fit big enough wheels without significant stats drop
Makes sense. The only way to have enough traction with that much horsepower is to add lots of weight. My car beats yours to 60mph, although yours pulls ahead in the quarter after your wheels grip up. I’m still faster around the track, despite having 300 fewer horsepower
@koolkei Yeah I agree, it’s one reason I baulked at using the body. I wish there were a way for wheel arches to be filled in for smaller wheels but that’s pretty impossible as it stands, and fundamentally too.
Also I’m in @phale’s boat, car with 200hp less, faster to 100 but slightly slower to the quarter, and faster around the track (though I notice, not by very much! Sticking with all steel kept me a good 300kg heavier than if I went all Al).
I had to boot it up and look lol. This car was too heavy for me to seriously attempt going for track times, but on that note I did want to tune it to achieve its potential, as it is a real driver’s car.
Airfield: 1:16.65
Green Hell: 7:44.84
Not the fastest around the track, but also, I bet, far from the slowest. It does its best to make use of a good 340bhp/metric ton.
Geez, those cars are a bit on the quick side. I thought I was doing well with my 1:20.56 around Airfield and 8:04.68 around Green Hell. Granted, I do have 5 seats in my car, but wow, I’m wondering if I made the right choice.
Well, @KLinardo did say he’d be most convinced by a sports sedan done right. So I’m assuming that those of us who went coupe will be facing a slight uphill battle.
I was able to make a decent car with 2 + 2 configuration but I thought the back seats would be a total joke, so decided against it. I couldn’t find a sedan body that didn’t have a weakness for what I was aiming for.
Also, @phale, your car has the same body but is about 240kg lighter than mine. It’s also cheaper. Did you use standard trim and aluminium in your body somewhere?
AHS Steel and Aluminum, premium interior. Did you not use advanced safety?
I’m just behind you on Airfield at 1:16.94 and faster around GH at 7:43.55. Not bad for about 100 fewer horsepower and no aero whatsoever
Feels good to be able to claim that I beat strop around the track at something
I used aluminum for the chassis and body panels, but used a high quality premium interior and satnav system with advanced safety to both ensure eligibility and provide extra prestige and comfort. Yet I stayed under 40k.
Sadly there are no classics currently still in contention for the outright round win, just 13 modern cars, of which my entry is one of them.
The lap time around the Airfield track I previously quoted is for the initial version of my submission - after my late revision, I expect it to be slower, but not by much, if at all.
Those panels would account for pretty much all of the difference. I resisted the temptation to use it because ALL STEEL and also it actually threw my weight balance way off. It would have been necessary had I used a 2+2 configuration (and then I would have had to downsize the engine, as I forgot that I actually upgraded to a 6.5L 40v… so long mileage!)
My aero exists solely to eliminate front lift. Admittedly it also does have an active wing… gotta use some tricks if you want to make a bus move It’s no secret if you want to corner better, shed weight!
Im at a 1:21.18 around the airfield with my executive sedan. 4107lbs with 5 luxury seats and luxury entertainment along with +6 advanced safety. Also Im on medium tires, I lose exactly 1 second using sports. Engine is making 575hp. All aluminum body and chassis as well.
I’m fairly confident for this round as I have good speed, decent economy, and great comfort.
#Snipping Away
December 3, 2012 - All right, it’s time to get serious. I’ve been thinning out the herd, yet I still have a baker’s dozen worth of cars that I’m considering. I need to seriously ask myself what I’m looking for here. Sports cars are fun, but I like bigger cars. I would take a Mercury Cougar XR-7, Ford Torino Talladega, or Mercury Cyclone Spoiler over a regular Mustang GT. Only a Boss 429, Mach 1, Boss 302, or Cobra Jet are really attractive to me in the pony car realm. And that’s because those trims are more muscle than pony. Now, I know I’m talking about the late 60s and early 70s here, but I’ve found myself longing for that big and powerful automotive design theme to come back. I think it’s time that I really separate the field I’m looking at. I want a muscly sedan.
##Round 4
@Rk38, DHB Lera GLX
I liked this car, I really did. However I didn’t think it was all that. It’s an impressive car just by its looks, but I was a little disappointed by the engine. Yeah, it was a flatplane V8 that was making 472 HP and revved all the way to 9000 RPM, but it was only 4.2L and it sounded like a Ferrari. I like Ferraris, but I’m not crazy about the engine note. I really prefer crossplane motors. Not to mention, this was just another 2-door sports car. It was designed really well to not copy what’s already been done and to have its own look, but it’s not a muscle car. It also had an MSRP of almost $40k. I think I could get more for less. It’s a very well built car, but it’s not what I want right now.
@abg7, Harris CS60 Coupe
This car is amazing. It’s basically a supercar that you can buy for just less than $40k. However, it feels like too much like a supercar. It has a 661 HP 6L V12 that revs to 8500 RPM. It has a long sweeping hood and small cockpit that will give you a fighter jet-like feel. I mean, it’s really cool. The visual design is nice too, although I wasn’t crazy about the tail lights. They weren’t so bad that the car got derailed in the looks stage, though. That’s mostly because the rest of the design was pretty much on-point. This was also a car that could wear what I think was British Racing Green well. If this car could have been built as a sedan, I’d probably be driving away with one, but a Corvette-like sports car isn’t checking the boxes for me right now.
@phale, Pearlite Vengeance
It’s hard to really describe this car after having just addressed the Harris CS60 Coupe. The Vengeance really screams Corvette except it has a 5.0L FPV8 instead of a 7.0L XPV8. I liked this car because it was cheap, like under $30k cheap, affordable, like 30+ MPG affordable, and powerful, like 556 HP powerful, all in one package. Sadly, this car is just another sports car. It doesn’t have that muscle feel and look. It also doesn’t look as good as the Harris CS60 Coupe, although it was clean looking. I’m really longing for something that is equated with a muscle car as soon as you see it, and this wasn’t it. Although, for 556 HP with a price tag this low, I may buy one a few years down the road.
@BobLoblaw, Petoskey Montauk RTX
I’m not going to say that this vehicle’s name factored into my decision to cut it, because it didn’t. However, I would have to practice the pronunciation a bit and that’s not your best marketing strategy. Moving on, I really debated exempting this car from my cuts. I liked it. The styling screams muscle car, except for one thing: it’s small. I’m a big guy and I don’t like small cars. I’m pretty sure I could stretch and open both doors while sitting in the driver’s seat. That’s a little too cramped for my tastes. If this car was just… more imposing, I would have loved it. I also liked the Scramjet 301 engine the car utilized. I know the Ford Windsor 302 bore and stroke of 4.00"x3.00" when I see it. That classic design was modernized with a DOHC 4-valve setup and direct injection. The motor was also practically bullet-proof and made a nice 456 HP with a good, usable power band and torque curve. Make a larger sedan that utilizes a slightly more powerful version of that engine (or a 351 or 429 if you’re feeling bold, wink-wink, nudge-nudge) and you have yourself a sale.
@EnryGT5, Seishido Deneb Coupe 4.7 RE
Why, oh why does this car only have 2 seats? Weight distribution? Fuel economy? Something else? I don’t know, but I know that it was supremely disappointing. The Deneb Coupe could have easily been equipped with some rear doors and a backseat. There’s plenty of cabin space. Sure, only 2 seats means I’ll be able to put my seat all the way back and stretch out my 6’1" frame, but come on, this was a winning formula here. 501 HP XPV8 out of only 4.7L. It also has a 7-speed manual transmission and that made my heart happy. So many opportunities for gear changing and you know that I would have been holding gears much longer than necessary with that amazing engine note. You could have featured this puppy in Fast & Furious with an awesome gearbox like that. The mileage wasn’t great at 17.8 MPG, which isn’t much better than my F-150 on a good day, but who cares when you have a decently sized car that you can still run a 12 second quarter mile with. Ugh, so close, but no cigar.
###17 cars down, 8 remain.
Note: @AirJordan, @asdren, & @strop would have been in these cuts, but you were exempted for redacted. How long will your borrowed time last?
#One round of cuts left before test drive time!
Okay, I’m both surprised, and rather very nervous. On one hand, I’m in the top 8. On the other hand, I know what I’ve built, and I’m worried about what I’ll be facing.
OOOhhhh I’m in the top 8, can’t wait to see where I finish
Ah, my car didn’t make the cut. Now I wish I went with my earlier instinct and worked on a sports sedan. Oh well, live and learn. I’m still pleased with how the ScramJet turned out.
After I saw the criteria for the next round of cuts (as well as my mention), I thought I was a goner. I’m glad at least, again, my advocating for the Muscle Car feel kept me in the running. That does mean that there’s something extra to it, even as a coupe, and that’s pleasing.
Good. I like the suspense this style has added. Also, I know that I’m technically late in announcing a winner as per post No. 1, but if there’s no objections, I’d like to ask for some additional time to finish off what I have started.