Looking at some real life car designs from this era, it appears my submission may be a bit dated . Iām quite happy with the looks I achieved with a simple design, but maybe this car was releasedā¦a decade too late? XD. Looks like as of the time I started typing this post up, Iām off the smallest displacement engine submitted so far by a mere 100ccs or so. A 3 liter flat crank 8 probably wasnāt the best choice for the GTP market, but I love the sound. I probably couldāve done a better job at adhering to the spirit of the challenge, but on the other hand this is my first forum challenge. It was a fun ruleset, and I created a car Iām quite happy with that I canāt say I wouldāve made had it not been for this challenge. This car scores in the upper 100s in competitivenessā¦for the convertible supercar market XD. Definitely couldāve done better, but I fear that would require some pretty significant design changes, or maybe I just donāt know how to do it without making big changes.
Anyways, I slapped together a little peak at the car. I apologize for my computer not getting along with the backgrounds in this game XD. Also, maybe a PM would be more appropriate for pointing this out, but in the OP my car is listed as the ā308 Viageraā and not the ā308 Viajeraā as it should be.
Had you gone quad lights up front it would have looked spot on, the early 70ās loved the 4 headlight setup everyone had them Jags, Astonās, BMWs, Mercedes, every full sized American carā¦
I actually recall entertaining quad lights at some point. The car I looked to for inspiration, while a mid-sixties model, was running quad lights. Canāt quite remember why I scrapped them. Maybe I was just trying to work in some differences so my car didnāt end up looking like a copy.
Also, I vote yes for including whoeverās entry it was that fell short of the wheelbase requirement if thatās still a thing.
@Durk - thanks for the vote. I think Iām going to enter it regardless - even if it canāt win, and my other car is ābetter.ā
Also, quad headlights are great - Initially tried to put them on my entries, but the models didnāt want to behave, so I gave up. My too-short design has quad headlightsā¦ theyāre just behind covers during the day.
Speaking of, Ferrariās Daytona, arguably the best GT car ever made, ran quad-headlights behind coversā¦ although technically, it also had too short a wheelbase for this competition, only 2.4 meters.
Iāve been working on a lot of 50s-early 60s cars recently, so I tend to gravitate towards those aesthetics. One of the biggest reasons for me putting together a car for this challenge was its proximity to that era, actually. Iām having a lot of fun playing with earlier technology these days. Iāve become burnt out on 90s-2010s cars, which I used to build a lot of. I find it easier to make a really good looking car prior to the modern era, too. Might just be that Iām not too fond of most modern car aesthetics.
The car I put together for this challenge is actually the first car I landed a 50/50 weight distribution with. Itās not something Iāve tried particularly hard to achieve in the past, and I just stumbled upon it by accident in this challenge. Once the engine was in I think I was around 49F/51 going on 52R. After giving the interior a healthy dose of quality sliders I got the rear down to 50.1 and just nudged the rear of the car a hair and landed on 50/50. Doesnāt necessarily mean itās a great car automatically, but itās one of those dumb little performance figures like 1000 horsepower or x amount of Gs on the skidpad that I could hype up if I was actually selling this car in real life, lol.
I actually took a look at the Ferrari Daytona, although it was after I submitted my car. Iām fairly new to the car world in general, but especially earlier decades. Iām really digging 50s-70s European cars now that I am learning about them.
So, here is my entry, since Iām just about the only one who hasnāt shared yet. Itās apparently not scoring anywhere near anyone else in terms of desirability or competitiveness, but Iām really not surprised, as this is a 6.6L OHV V8 in a relatively small car. The backstory, since my company does not manufacture cars in 1971 (founded as a tuning shop in 1969, began manufacture in 1982), is Ferrari sent this to me to āAmericanizeā their new model to siphon sales out of the premium muscle car market over here. It scores insanely high in hyper car, super car, and convertible supercar markets, however! It hosts a modest ~400 hp to the rear wheels, but is quite comparable to cars of the day. I give you the GTB400 for 1971!
@07CobaltGirl - I love the way you do your badge work - I donāt have the patience for that, surely. I also must commend your tuning house on being one of the worldās earliest adopters of LEDs.
Also, how big is everyone else running their wheels? Iām seeing what look to be gigantic rims for the time periodā¦ Unless it was a heavy truck, I think pretty much everyone in the world ran 13-to-15 inch wheels (no idea on the metric equivalent).
I think Iām running 215/65R14 on my short car, and here I thought those were too low of profileā¦ The Daytona ran 215/70R15s, so I might try those after work today, but they sound too tallā¦
@LordRed - Iāll tidy-up and send you in the short car - I donāt care if you let it compete or not, but I donāt like any of my other cars enough to bin it. To me, none of the other bodies come close to a proper GT car. Use it as a control, a what-if, an also-ran, or just ignore it if you prefer.
With this loony contest, itās going to be pretty much last place anyway, but I think it would have done well in the real world at the time.
Hereās the Mercusa Criterion MX.
In terms of power, itās got over 300hp and over 500nm of torque. Itās also got a manual, which might have been a mistake in retrospect, but itās so un-sporty that it needed it. Also, I used the muscle car body for reasons I canāt explain.
My car is running 215/60R15s. Plenty of tire quality.
I spent a lot more than I am used to in this challenge. I actually shot myself in the foot because I shyed away from a hand made interior out of habit and went with luxury, but I only realized I made this mistake a few moments ago XD. I figured I had picked the best options by the time I came around to polishing the design, which was mostly finding out where to best spend quality points in order to bump the GTP competitiveness up while adhering to the budget. I realize now I shouldāve checked my design choices a little more carefully. There may have been some other areas I skimped on out of habit that I really shouldnāt have. My very first draft for this challenge featured body on frame and a coil axle in the rear, lol. Didnāt realize just how much I had to spend to get the car up to par until I looked at how low my GTP score was and how far under budget I was. Still not entirely sure I kept my budgeting habits on a leash after realizing the interior mistake I made. Fairly certain a hand made interior with fewer quality points wouldāve fared better.
Also, the post above made me realize I forgot automatics wouldāve been worth a shot XD.
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Also, the post above made me realize I forgot automatics wouldāve been worth a shot XD.[/quote]
Iām not so sure about automatics, what you gain from comfort and drivability doesnāt make up for the sportiness and prestige that you lose. However you do get more engineering time, hmmm.
For a GT car in 1971, an automatic would be a rare thing, if a thing at all.
I sure canāt think of one at the moment, but Iām sure someone could find an automatic GT car if they really looked hard enough. 4-speed manual would be the ācorrectā choice.
Yes, I know itās a game, but imagine you were the owner of one of these top-tier machines, chrome everywhere, hand-crafted elegance on every facet of the body, power ranging from ātoo muchā to āwaaaay too much,ā etc., but then you descend into the cockpit, and thereās only two pedals?
I canāt even imagine the horror.
and @Durk - yeah, I think I was at (+12) on tire quality.
automatics were quite common at the time, Aston Martin Vantage v8 had a three speed, mercedes-benz had for speeds and two speeds autos, big ones like the American Thunderbird and other personal luxury cars which one close to GT"S in terms of design weāre almost exclusively offered with automatic. even for Ari had 3 speed and four-speed autos at this time.
. Iām quite happy with the looks I achieved with a simple design, but maybe this car was releasedā¦a decade too late? XD. Looks like as of the time I started typing this post up, Iām off the smallest displacement engine submitted so far by a mere 100ccs or so. A 3 liter flat crank 8 probably wasnāt the best choice for the GTP market, but I love the sound. I probably couldāve done a better job at adhering to the spirit of the challenge, but on the other hand this is my first forum challenge. It was a fun ruleset, and I created a car Iām quite happy with that I canāt say I wouldāve made had it not been for this challenge. This car scores in the upper 100s in competitivenessā¦for the convertible supercar market XD. Definitely couldāve done better, but I fear that would require some pretty significant design changes, or maybe I just donāt know how to do it without making big changes.
