Holy cow this thread is going in-depth 
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[rainbow]internet![/rainbow]
Trust me, even the open web’s pretty twisted, once you go past YouTube, a few forums and social networks everything starts getting sexual and generally weird as you approach Reddit… then by the time you get to 4chan things get pretty darn strange and beyond that is shit in the deep/darkweb that shouldn’t even exist.
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So, lemme get this straight. We started by discussing about other body panel types, plastics, wood etc etc. Exactly how did we get to Whale Penis interior?
Leather bodied Russian car. So Russian whale penis leather interior is a natural direction of the conversation.
Gotta love the internet.
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Yeah, but we’re full of terrible ideas, don’t copy what we do (See: Spruce Goose, AKA cargo plane made of wood).
I’m all for plastic body support, as I happen to be a big fan of the Fiero GT (Hence the avatar), which was both plastic, and mass produced. There’s actually a ton of mass produced plastic bodies, surprised it isn’t available in Automation.
That was an american plane just saying.
And wood is a pretty good material for making planes. With aluminium being cheap and easy to get it’s not super popular anymore, but you still had tons of aircraft with fully or partly wooden structure back then.
The best example being the Mosquito, aka the wooden wonder.
And the Fiero’s body panels are GFRP, which we already have in the form of glass fiber. IIRC the plan is to make it possible to mass produce glass fiber in the later years.
Wood body, canvas roof, and oxen for a powertrain.
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…How much horsepower do oxen make?
depends, how many oxen do you have?
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I recommend no less than six.
8 oxen in a V formation with two cattle prods per ox and gravity fed feed troughs, would I see much horsepower gains by switching to forced induction?
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yeah, you should be able to notice a marginal gain. as for horsepower, i’d assume one oxen is 1.5 horses, so 12 horsepower N/A, you might push for 15 with a food pump installed
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Entirely depends on the horse and on the ox.
I’ve seen a single horse out-pull over 30 men… and a single man is considered to be capable of 1.2hp instant and 0.1hp sustained.
Not all horses are created equal.
There are Gross Horses like this;
and there are Net Horses like this;
Same goes for oxen. There are large-displacement oxen that can likely stall a tractor in a tug-of-war with the proper gearing and traction.
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Could’ve sworn the Spruce Goose was a drunken Canadian invention. Huh.
Also, Fiero is definitely plastic. It is injection molded plastic, and the stuff is awesome.
http://images.fieroforum.com/2009/panel_materials.jpg
SMC is just a process to make fiberglass parts.
As is RRIM. Since the reinforced bit means that there is glass fiber in the part.
What is commonly called fiberglass is also known as glass fiber reinforced polymer (GFRP), which means some sort of plastic/polymer (often polyester, but can also be urethane or nylon or pretty much any plastic you want) with a bunch of glass fibers in it.
Carbon fiber is pretty much the same thing, the polymer usually being epoxy.
Very few cars are made with polymer with no reinforcement, with the exception of decorative trims and bumper covers.
Spyker?
I mean I’m sorry, I’m not sure what to tell you, it’s definitely plastic. I can promise you, I can grab my bumper and physically deform it by hand, something which fibreglass tends not to appreciate. Does it have glass fibre in some of the panels? Sure! But so does reinforced bondo, and if you called that fibreglass it would arch more than a couple eyebrows. It’s a spaceframe with a thin, flexible plastic body (Save for the doors) over top of that.
Just coming by to drop these. Maybe you are the one who needs some enlightement.
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Right, and again, I would point you to the fact that being reinforced with glass fibres is not the same thing as being fibreglass. Fibreglass is a type of plastic, for sure, but not all plastic is fibreglass.
Again, I’ve used various forms fibreglass plenty in the past, I’m acutely aware of how the materials feel. It feels like fibreglass. Not like generic plastic. I know what my car feels like. It feels like plastic. There’s no comparing a Fiero and fibreglass car, they’re a country mile from one another.