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BRC: 1970 Nürburgring 24h [BONUS]


#1

1970 Nürburgring 24h


As some of you might know, this year marks the 50th anniversary of the first official 24 hour race on the Nürburgring. On June 27 1970, 99 close-to-production cars started the challenge to be the fastest survivor after 24 hours of torture on the vicious circuit - starting a tradition where each year hundreds of thousands of spectators come together to celebrate motorsport and car culture (and barbecue/beer). The race was won by Clemens Schickentanz and the young Hans-Joachim “Strietzel” Stuck on a BMW 2002 ti, starting in the 2000 cc class.

Before this year’s anniversary race, which has been postponed to September 26/27, I thought it would be nice to repeat the original race from 1970 in Automation, especially as (most likely and unfortunately) no spectators will be allowed on the campsites around the track. We’ll use the BRC race simulation for this purpose (and hopefully it will work with many cars over 24 hours…).

We’ll test a few new mechanics in the BRC simulation in this one-off challenge: multiclass racing, the class regulations, repairable breakdowns (think of getting the car towed to the pits and swapping the engine during the race) and the homologation process. If things go as planned and the simulation does not break because of too many cars, I’d like to continue this concept in a VLN/NLS-style recurring challenge.
As the race is so long and the simulation most likely will not be able to run in real-time, the broadcast of the race will be based on a stream of recorded, probably sped-up footage.

Before I open the challenge, I’d like to collect your opinions. Please let me know about your thoughts, concerns and missing/ambiguous information as well as feedback on the ruleset (particularly the minimum weight requirements) and possible exploits. Thanks in advance!


The Cars

While it is hard to find information on the regulations back in the day, it was mostly series production cars and their race-prepped cousins according to FIA Appendix J, starting in different classes depending on degree of modification and engine capacity. For the race in Automation, we’ll recreate a similar vibe by loosely sticking to Group 1, Group 2, Group 3 and Group 4 regulations according to 1970’s appendix J to the FIA International Sporting Code (even though it seems that no Group 3 and 4 cars actually started at the 24 h race in 1970). The production cars will be homologated and then can be modified for the races.

Homologation means that a minimum amount of cars must be built during 12 consecutive months depending on the group in order to get the permission to race it in the respective group. For this challenge, we’ll use the Automation demographics score to determine if a car would sell well or not.

Rules and Submission Guideline:

>> Step by step guide and technical regulations <<

Racing tires/slick tires have only been introduced to Formula 1 in 1971, so I’d say we don’t need intermediate/wet weather tire options here.

Cars can be homologated for any Group, they don’t need to be homologated in Group 1 to be modified for Group 2. They can be directly homologated for Group 2 and then modified for the race. Same applies to Group 3 and 4.


Inspiration

Group 1:

Group 2:

Group 3:

Group 4:

Find lists of homologated real-world cars for inspiration here:
https://historicdb.fia.com/regulations/homologation-list


Minimum weight table

Please use the formulas given in the specification of the Groups for accurate values for your specific engine capacity. This table just serves as a reference.




Banned bodies

These car bodies are banned from the competion. Reasons can be wonky/overpowered aerodynamics or just being not in the spirit of the challenge. I did not ban every truck/people mover/… body, as those should be a bad enough choice anyway.
The list may be extended, as new issues may be discovered and new mods may appear on the workshop.

  • Carabo
    Carabo
  • 60s Mid LM
    60s_Mid_LM
  • 60s Mid LM large
    60s_Mid_LM_Large
  • LMP 70s
    LMP70s
  • Tram
    Tram
  • BMW E3 2.4m
    BMW_E3_240
  • Enfield 1b
    enfield_1b
  • Peel
    peel
  • Enfield 1
    enfield_1
  • 60s Despot
    60_Despot
  • Pullman
    Pullman


The Track

We’ll race, as in 1970, on the Nordschleife in conjunction with the old Start-und-Ziel-Schleife (“Betonschleife”) - so overall on a track length of 22.835 km. Track download here:



The Race

The BRC simulation will recreate real racing over 24 hours, including fighting for position, tire wear, fuel consumption, pit stops, driver errors, mechanical damage and repairs.

Race strategy

  • choose how long a car should go between tire changes. Tire changes will take 120 +/- 10 seconds.
  • refuelling can be faster than changing tires (1 kg/second refill rate) - you might want to keep them on for longer than one stint - depending on your car. Refuelling will happen in parallel to tire changes.
  • driver swaps: drivers will swap after they have done a stint longer than 2 hours, recovering between their stints. Driver swaps will take 30 seconds and will be done in parallel to other work on the car (refuelling, tires)
  • if a car breaks down, it will be brought back to the pits (which will take time) and tried to be repaired (which will take even more time) and sent back into the race again - except for really major damage or failures.

Influence factors on driver errors

  • ratio between TrackTameness and TrackSportiness (to be found in Lua Table Explorer in-game: hit F9, choose -> Lua -> Table Explorer -> Lua Car -> CarInfo -> TrimInfo -> Results -> Sportiness or Tameness)
  • randomness

Influence factors on car part reliability

  • trim reliability
  • for brakes: brake fade
  • randomness

Influence factors on engine reliability

  • engine reliability
  • cooling slider (more info soon)
  • randomness

Influence factors on tire wear

  • tire compound
  • camber
  • actual possible wheelspin at current speed (not the %-number from Automation)
  • driver errors

Influence factors on brake wear

  • pad type slider
  • brake fade

Influence factors on repair times

  • engine
    • engine service cost
    • engine bay fill factor
    • randomness
  • gearbox
    • engine bay fill factor
    • number of gears
  • brakes
    • randomness
  • body
    • damage severity
    • randomness
  • suspension
    • chassis tab: suspension complexity = engineering time for front/rear suspension
    • damage severity
    • randomness


The reward

Fame and honours! There will be 18 winners - one in each class. And one of them will be the overall winner of the 1st Automation BRC 24h on the Nürburgring.


Entering the Challenge

Basic rules:

  • one single entry per player (consisting of a homologation car (not going into the race) and a race-prepped car (going into the race)
  • no multi-accounting
  • no cheating

>> Step by step guide and technical regulations <<

Please send the production version of the car, meeting the target group’s requirements including at least one demographic score, for homologation first. This car will not go into the race.

  • Car model naming convention: 24h70 - <your user name>
  • Car trim naming convention: H - <your car name>

After you have received the homologation confirmation (including the information about the homologated group) from me, you can send in your race version as a new trim of the homologation model. This car will go into the race.

  • Car model naming convention: 24h70 - <your user name> (same as homologation version)
  • Car trim naming convention: R - <your car name>
  • The homologation confirmations can be found here: >> Homologation List <<
  • Choose your car number here if you haven’t done so yet: >> Google Spreadsheet <<

I will send each player practice results in a PM after I get the race car (no revisions - first PM I get is the car going into the race) - lap times while using fuel and tires - which you need to use to determine your race strategy, which only consists of telling me:

  • how many minutes per stint you want to go
  • after how many stints to change tires

I will send a link to a Google Form when it is time to provide this and a bit more information about your race team.



Deadlines

Homologation Car: Monday, 7th of September 2020, 6 a.m. CEST
Race Car: Monday, 14th of September 2020, 6 a.m. CEST
Race Strategy: Wednesday, 16th of September 2020, 6 a.m. CEST

The challenge is not open yet!



Disclaimer

BRCs tend to be rather competitive challenges - however, randomness is a huge factor, as in real racing. As this is 24h race is a one-off challenge, there is the possibility that your car, on which you might have spent many hours, might retire within a few minutes from the race. Please be aware of this and save your salt for something really worth complaining about.

I do these experimental BRC forum challenges in my limited spare time and want to replicate real racing, real success stories, real tragedies. As in real racing: There will be a next race (I promise) and one day you will be more lucky.

This challenge will get the BRC simulation to its performance limits. In case something breaks and is not fixable in a reasonable amount of time, I’ll have to switch to another race format (still it will be endurance-style).



MisterL´s Mods
Bogliq Automotive USA (Generations II)
#2

Regarding competitiveness requirements, do they apply to just one region, or more than one?

Also, will there be PU/ET limits for the trim and/or its engine?


#3

First one is a good question. I think best would be to limit it to Gasmea, Fruinia and Hetvesia (similar budgets, large market sizes). It is enough if one of the countries fulfills the requirement.

PU and ET should be covered by affordability and thus by the demographic scores, so I don’t think we need them.


#4

how are we supposed to achieve minimum weight if we are not allowed to ballast the track version?

and ballasting the stock one seems illogical as that tanks the already tight marketing rules

EDIT:
my example is a 2.7L V6 and about 180kgs underweight


#5

The question is: are the current weights too high and impossible to achieve with realistic production-level cars? They should be within the range what’s realistic when we start the challenge.

I must admit that I haven’t built many test cars. It is likely that I have to tweak the values. More data points definitely would help. If anybody wants to support this, please post information here. All data should first of all focus on the production car, not the race car.

Template:
<intended Group> - <engine capacity [cc]> - <wheelbase [m]> - <weight [kg]>
Example:
Group 2 - 1993 cc - 2.4 m - 1023.4 kg


#6

supplying my first attempt then

Anhultz Dione VI C
Group 1: 2697cc - 2.70m - 1215.5kg - 182kg underweight - 87.5% - 0.092 hp/kg

EDIT:

2nd data point
Anhultz Puck II C
Group 1: 1199cc - 2.03m - 720.7kg - 66kg underweight - 91.6% - 0.066 hp/kg

(more to follow with additional edits)

3rd data point
Anhultz Puck II B
Group 1: 899.6cc - 2.03 - 669kg - 25kg overweight - 104% - 0.053hp/kg

see how the Puck II B is actually legal?
it seems like the current formula makes the weight go WAAY to exponential.
from what i can tell it needs to be more linear, givn that the amount of weight difference increases drastically with displacement

4th Data point:
Group 1: 1796cc - 2.70m - 1130.1kg - 94kg overweight - 108.1% - 0.065 hp/kg

EDIT:
added amount of being underweight
added percentage of weight compared to min. weight (actual / min weight)
added power to weight ratio


#7

this is just a suggestion… but why not remove the minimum weight thing altogether?


#8

actually gonna second this:
with the way the rules work in terms of allowed mods, the only measure needed to MAYBE balance cars against each other is Power-to-weught in race trim

and that could be a fixed value, saving a ton of check-work


#9

Because then you end up with a nonSprite body (or equivalent in current game)
with a 3000cc engine and 800kg.


#10

What fuel should we be using? Sorry if it’s in the rules, I haven’t found it :sweat_smile:


#11

Group 2 - 1997 - 2.38 - 903.6kg - 82.2kg underweight.


#12

Might be a result of using exponentials on the formula? :smile:


#13

Does this mean all 3 or just 1 of the 3?


#14

I know that “no limited production” used to include forged internals, is that still the case?


#15

Just 1 of the 3,

Afaik, forged parts only need forge works, but have no “limited production” flags. So they are not banned.
Banned are basically aluminium and fiber glass for any group other than Group 4.

I think I’ll also include “no spaceframe” in the general rules.

Added a “anything not specified is free” rule to the general section.

There are basically three options for balancing:

  1. no balancing at all, no minimum weights, no Power-to-Weight formulas, etc: This is the most realistic option, as there has been no such rule for Group 1 to Group 4. The only thing balancing things in the real world was the production number/how much the manufacturer wanted to invest in the homologation specials. My feeling is, that this is a bit too dangerous for extreme exploiting in the Automation world (i.e. 5 liter Sprites).
  2. simple balancing with a minimum weight/capacity rule - this was actually used in racing regulations, for example Group 5, back in the days. Although the current formulas are apperently unsuited for road-derived cars (they are derived from the Group B rules used in BRC 1976 and already are made a bit more linear). With a few adjustments, these might work out, while still giving you nice engine design/tuning choices.
  3. Power-to-weight rules: Simple, but limit the player in engine design/tuning freedom. The danger here is to get huge engines with low cam profiles/restricted exhausts in order to achieve a wide powerband. From the balancing perspective, this option is promising the closest competition.

Any opinions? I prefer the second option with tweaks to the formulas and maybe even a fuel tank size per body footprint addition to it (bigger cars have bigger fuel tanks), with the currently given tank sizes being the upper limit (they are directly coming from the FIA regulations). I have the feeling that no additional tanks are allowed (https://historicdb.fia.com/sites/default/files/regulations/1437743288/appendix_j_1970.pdf) and no real road car had 120 liter tanks anyway, so it would make sense to find a reasonable formula for this.


#16

If we added the fuel tank size to the car “dry weight” then this would get us closer to the regulation weights you stated at the start. My car would then be 5kg under. If you cascade the tank sizes down (e,g the 2.5L tank size moved down to the 2L engine) then my car would fit the regulations and give a little “wiggle” room.

Just a thought…


#17

What is the BRC racing sim? Can I download it for free or do you have to pay for it?


#18

I think we all agree I have to up the numbers a bit - by how much is completely free, we don’t have to stick to fuel tank weights.

The exponent is smaller than 1 - if I make it more linear (i.e. closer to 1), it will get worse than it is currently :wink:

It is a standalone program I built a few years ago, after I prototyped parts of the car physics and the track simulation in Automation. The program will not be shared, as it contains source code from Automation - I have a deal with the devs about this. But I can run forum challenges - everybody can send me an exported .car file from Automation and I can put it into the race.

A video of an older statusof the implementation can be found here:


#19

This is confusing to me. Which one should we be following? For example, if neither group rules or general rules say anything about increasing tire width (within limits) for the track car, am I allowed to give it wider tires compared to the homologation model or not?

Also, is adding aero allowed?


#20

You can change the tyre width for the race car. If you look at the Escort & MG then they aren’t standard width tyres for the road going variants.

I can’t answer the aero question.