BRC 1955 - The Golden Age [Qualifying R5]

Hello 2:39.98 :slight_smile:
Also, I donā€™t know if GH will make a showing for 1955 race, but Iā€™m on the hunt for sub 9:20.00 if possible. My carā€™s engine is probably far from the optimal hp/weight/top speed ratio, but 232 mph doesnā€™t seem bad with 7.1s 0-100km.

Looking forward to the first practice session, any word when that will be so I can get my car submitted for it?

I hope that speed is in KPH :smiley:

Because 232 mph is a tad fast

HAHA, your correct, meant to say kph. I use mph here but kph in Automation so I mix the words up often.
Also, small V8s rule yet again. A super rough tune of a crossplane V8 dropped 2 seconds off my I6 engineā€™s timeā€¦ Time to tune a new engine :\

[quote=ā€œVicVictoryā€][quote=ā€œtrackpaduserā€]
Also, about those sub 2:40 times, they are definitively possible on slicks. And maybe even on sports with some tweaking.[/quote]

ā€œSomeā€ tweaking.

Some.[/quote]

Yeah, you know, actually, Iā€™m not putting in the time to find that sub 2:40 on sports tyres LOL. The part that bothers me the most is the (very fair) maximum power:weight ratio, because thatā€™s usually where I get my advantage from :laughing: As it is, I think given the time I have for this, Iā€™m going to settle for getting points by being competitive to begin with, because no matter how little time I spent on the 1945 build, itā€™s still not a great feeling to always be stuck in the no-points zone!

But I need company!!! Dont leave me alone!!! :stuck_out_tongue:

Iā€™ve had this discussion with other users multiple times in other past tournaments. By and large, the v8 has it over the i6 but in some scenarios, the i6 comes in awfully handy.

If I recall correctly though, I think Iā€™ve used an i4 LOL. I had so much money left over, it was quality sliders everywhere :stuck_out_tongue:

I was actually thinking about playing around with an i4 and going for crazy low weight. :slight_smile:
If I have time I may just mess around with it to see what I get.

An I4 is heavier per capacity than a V8, because the V8 shares part of the block for both banks. Thatā€™s why V8s are so good in these early years of the challenge where lower weight is king :slight_smile:

sure! smaller bores, shorter strokes, more power circles per revolution!

[quote=ā€œVicVictoryā€][quote=ā€œtrackpaduserā€]
Also, about those sub 2:40 times, they are definitively possible on slicks. And maybe even on sports with some tweaking.[/quote]

ā€œSomeā€ tweaking.

Some.

Meh, Ardentā€™s going to withdraw from the BRC. I thought sub 2:47 was going to suffice. I donā€™t have the knowledge (much less the time) to find a way to tweak that down anywhere close. Clearly I have learned nothing about performance builds from repeated competition running, so why waste the space? I might qualify, but not do anything more than that. Might as well let my spot go to someone who still gives a crap.[/quote]
Iā€™m really sad to hear that. And not just because sub-2:47 was about the best speed I was able to manage after reducing my car weight as best as I could - because it seems like the not-Sprite body is going to be the only competitive choice.

I imagine the power-to-weight ratio rule was put in place to try to balance the vehicles, but it just doesnā€™t seem to be working here. :frowning:

Yeah, main issue is with the tires. Too much weight and you overload the tires under braking/turning and end up with more wheelspin problems.

Maybe going with a min weight and max displacement could somewhat fix those issues, but then you would end up with the better cars being much faster compared to the slower cars.

I mean, imagine cars that are both more powerfull AND better tuned.

One thing for sure is that I donā€™t think having one p/w limit is going to work very well with Turbos, especially since they tend to drink a lot and have worse powerbands compared to similarly powered NA engines.

Still, if you ask me, I think the current system, while it has its issues, is probably the fairest way, but it will probably require a few changes once turbos come in so they arenā€™t made useless.

I managed to get a 2:42:something with the Not-Ferrari body, which is much faster than many of the people posting here :slight_smile: itā€™s not impossible to do well with other bodies than the Not-Sprite. Some interesting differences there potentially. You could also try using the small 1945 body that dominated the 1945 challenge.

Yeah, the Ferrari is definitively going to be fairly competitive, as it is quite aerodynamic and not too heavy. The others bodies tend to have issues with either of those, like the cortina that has almost twice the drag of the Sprite.

But you still have the problems with the power-weight limit + tire size limit, especially if the tires are mediocre.

So far my V8 non-sprite does 2:39.xx, 40mpg, and has a sexy-as-hell powerband. Feeling good for this competition :slight_smile:
One of these races when I donā€™t have time to tune my car Iā€™m going to enter some massive engineā€™d land barge and laugh all the way to last place.

[quote=ā€œTheBobWileyā€]So far my V8 non-sprite does 2:39.xx, 40mpg, and has a sexy-as-hell powerband. Feeling good for this competition :slight_smile:
One of these races when I donā€™t have time to tune my car Iā€™m going to enter some massive engineā€™d land barge and laugh all the way to last place.[/quote]

Finally someone to keep me company!

[quote=ā€œstropā€]Iā€™m not sure whether this will go any better than 1945, where I just went for lightness and didnā€™t really fix anything else. This time, with an improved suspension tune, weā€™ll see if this power barge can match the little guys in the corners!

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Large coupe body represent! fistbump with Kristina (now with over 200hp, muahahahaha)

I asked this same question in the previous BRC. It was frowned upon then, and I was told that the calculations may be ironed out, but as yet they have not changed.

AFAIK the majority of us wouldnā€™t be doing it (and Iā€™m not, myself), but if itā€™s just 2 pounds, I donā€™t personally see a problem with it, as it still costs extra anyway. I would obviously defer to Der Bayer for a decision on this though![/quote]

I donā€™t think Iā€™m breaking any rules (If I am, I can remove the image). I am north of 200hp, but nowhere near the 2:40 mark on ATT. But, as you know, it is a pushrod V8, soā€¦yeah. Itā€™s a pretty fat little coupe, to be honest. Chevy Power!

@07CobaltGirl: Nice looking coupe!

It will need more work. Itā€™s still pretty slow, and by the sound of the others, itā€™s stupid slow. haha

I tried just revising the old car to see what I could do to it but the game does not allow me to change the year from 1945 to 1955, the year buttons just did not work.

Then the game crashed and I had to reboot for it to work again.

Colbaltgirl, only 52 loudness? My little 1.5L is at 62, let that beast roar!