BRC 1966 - Gentleman Brobots Club [RACE 7 P&Q]

Community Challenges & Competitions
741

[quote=“Packbat”]Oh, that’s odd. I thought this was a transcription typo going from trump cards to spreadsheet, but it’s not: Peskyboyz is listed as OHC-5. Should that be OHC-3? I didn’t think DOHC-5 was unlocked.

Edit: Engine reliability 113.5? Was this a BRCTool export error?

Also, did no-one go DOHC or is that distinction just not shown on the trump cards?[/quote]

It isn’t distinguishing between OHC and DOHC, I think. Also, you are correct. There is no 5v configuration available in 1966, so it must be a typo on the trump card. Or someone has used an illegal engine.

742

[quote=“Packbat”]Oh, that’s odd. I thought this was a transcription typo going from trump cards to spreadsheet, but it’s not: Peskyboyz is listed as OHC-5. Should that be OHC-3? I didn’t think DOHC-5 was unlocked.

Edit: Engine reliability 113.5? Was this a BRCTool export error?

Also, did no-one go DOHC or is that distinction just not shown on the trump cards?[/quote]

I did DOHC, so it’s just not distinguished. Also, I have the third smallest engine! 1477cc’s of screamy DOHC V-12 goodness. (Peak power at 9200RPM)

743

Looks like my stats are correct, thanks Der Bayer. There are some hilarious choices here, I am highly amused. Jeepers, The Hearse, of course, the Breadvan…

A quick note: the FR not-Datsun 240z coupe body was quite popular and is capable of great cornering G at both low and high speed. The downside is that it sacrifices a lot of drive:sport to do so… not a single entry with >1g average cornering force had a better drive to sport ratio. Similar applied to the most popular body, the swoopy MR body, though in actual fact it was very difficult to get it beyond 1.07/1.00g. Exceptions to this rule include: NormanVauxhall’s Znopresk (using a different body again, staying true to the company roots), and Puffster’s ABR Roadrunner, which also boasts one of the best safety ratings (and a dry weight of over 1000kg!).

The one I’m keeping my eye on is Riso’s car, which actually used much narrower than expected wheels on the front but managed was the only one to achieve better average cornering than my own car for a significantly better drive:sport ratio. It will worsen front tyre wear slightly, but his car is lighter, so the effect may not be that noticeable. On the other hand, my car’s sturdier and faster at the top end (but, crucially, slightly slower at the bottom end). When it comes to the AT test track, most of the corners in it are taken anywhere between 40-120km/h so my car would be at a significant disadvantage. But the track list is a real variety, and one will not know what the weather or our pit strategy brings, so that’s racing for you!

I hold zero expectations as to how competitive my car will be, all I really want is to score points every race and not crash too hard :stuck_out_tongue: Godspeed!

744

I kinda f’ed up my deadline so had to rush the unfinished car. had no time to do any design stuff. So the car on my trump card is just a solid body with a couple vents and humongous wheel wells. I’ll just call it “Unique”.

Just glad i got the car in the competition… the old car i sent in blew up in the last test, and was much slower.

745

[quote=“Packbat”]I’m a fan of twiddling with swaybars and stagger (difference in tyre width front to rear), too - I usually like to save camber adjustment for last.

Edit: Swaybars can be tricky, though - be advised.[/quote]

I know all about the weird swaybars, hence my 800+ stiffness rear bar back in 1945. :stuck_out_tongue:

746

I"m still wondering if all of the DQ’s are real.

747

cough1.11g-lowcough1.04g-highcoughMRcough

sorry, sore throat :wink:

748

I am also very curious about peskyboyz car with it’s two anomalies. Not only does his trump card show OHC-5v configuration, but it also shows 113 engine reliability yet only shows 39 overall reliability. That really just doesn’t seem possible!

749

[quote=“koolkei”]cough1.11g-lowcough1.04g-highcoughMRcough

sorry, sore throat :wink:[/quote]

Have a decongestant too. Your brain must be stuffy, seeing as you missed the fact your car also has a much lower trackdrivability than tracksportiness, which means I’ve already got you covered :stuck_out_tongue:

That said I may have missed a few cards. If anybody has cornering better than 1.06/1.00 and a drive:sport ratio of over 1, let me know and I’ll paint some imaginary targets on your body panels :wink:

750

[quote=“koolkei”]cough1.11g-lowcough1.04g-highcoughMRcough

sorry, sore throat :wink:[/quote]

wonder how you manage use 205 wide front trye without causing time result because broken drivability

also your drivability is very low which probably cause some problem in BRC race simulator

751

@strop well if you count the drivability… i may have been better off with my last car.

slightly slower. but better drivability, more reliable and it was already proven on the pre-season test. this move was WAAAAYYYY too bold…

btw, the race is tonight/today right?

752

[quote=“strop”]Looks like my stats are correct, thanks Der Bayer. There are some hilarious choices here, I am highly amused. Jeepers, The Hearse, of course, the Breadvan…

A quick note: the FR not-Datsun 240z coupe body was quite popular and is capable of great cornering G at both low and high speed. The downside is that it sacrifices a lot of drive:sport to do so… not a single entry with >1g average cornering force had a better drive to sport ratio. Similar applied to the most popular body, the swoopy MR body, though in actual fact it was very difficult to get it beyond 1.07/1.00g. Exceptions to this rule include: NormanVauxhall’s Znopresk (using a different body again, staying true to the company roots), and Puffster’s ABR Roadrunner, which also boasts one of the best safety ratings (and a dry weight of over 1000kg!).

The one I’m keeping my eye on is Riso’s car, which actually used much narrower than expected wheels on the front but managed was the only one to achieve better average cornering than my own car for a significantly better drive:sport ratio. It will worsen front tyre wear slightly, but his car is lighter, so the effect may not be that noticeable. On the other hand, my car’s sturdier and faster at the top end (but, crucially, slightly slower at the bottom end). When it comes to the AT test track, most of the corners in it are taken anywhere between 40-120km/h so my car would be at a significant disadvantage. But the track list is a real variety, and one will not know what the weather or our pit strategy brings, so that’s racing for you!

I hold zero expectations as to how competitive my car will be, all I really want is to score points every race and not crash too hard :stuck_out_tongue: Godspeed![/quote]

Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but…

240-body
Baxeg: 1.06/1.02 D/S: 1.08
Puffster (mentioned): 1.11/1.06 D/S: 1.52

MR-body
Dragawn: 1.08/1.03 D/S: 1.01
Marcus817: 1.07/1.02 D/S: 1.02
Matti: 1.01/1.01 D/S 1.03
Riso: 1.07/1.00 D/S: 1.52
strop: 1.06/1.00 D/S: 1.16

Caswal’s BreadVan: 1.15/1.03 D/S: 1.04

Unknwn body:
NoahC: 1.08/1.04 D/S: 1.38

NormanVauxhall’s car is actually under 1.0 at .9945 D/S.

I’m actually not averaging Gs, but only listing those with > 1G on both measurements. If I average, there are quite a few which are very close to a 1G average and greater than 1.0 D/S.

753

[quote=“koolkei”]@strop well if you count the drivability… i may have been better off with my last car.

slightly slower. but better drivability, more reliable and it was already proven on the pre-season test. this move was WAAAAYYYY too bold…

btw, the race is tonight/today right?[/quote]

1AM for Jakarta time, just prepare your coffee

754

Second biggest engine, awesome. Though there’s a typo on the spreadsheet, my car is called the Cortino, not Cortina.

755

[quote=“07CobaltGirl”]Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but…

240-body
Baxeg: 1.06/1.02 D/S: 1.08
Puffster (mentioned): 1.11/1.06 D/S: 1.52

MR-body
Dragawn: 1.08/1.03 D/S: 1.01
Marcus817: 1.07/1.02 D/S: 1.02
Matti: 1.01/1.01 D/S 1.03
Riso: 1.07/1.00 D/S: 1.52
strop: 1.06/1.00 D/S: 1.16

Caswal’s BreadVan: 1.15/1.03 D/S: 1.04

Unknwn body:
NoahC: 1.08/1.04 D/S: 1.38

NormanVauxhall’s car is actually under 1.0 at .9945 D/S.

I’m actually not averaging Gs, but only listing those with > 1G on both measurements. If I average, there are quite a few which are very close to a 1G average and greater than 1.0 D/S.[/quote]

Not really misunderstanding things, I just missed a few things due to looking too quickly :stuck_out_tongue:

That list may be handy to see what role those cornering figures play (if much at all) in race performance.

756

Yes, there are issues, mostly caused by BRCTool (choosing wrong files -> peskyboyz) and a wrong power/weight ratio check (I did not warn the people above the limit, including myself). For those people there is a little bit of time to fix the problems. If those who are a little bit over power-weight ratio don’t fix their car I will scale down their power figures to acceptable values. My car is completely over the top though because I calculated with kW/kg. Will be fixed.

The 4WD issue is not something I handle differently than the simulation in Automation, so I don’t see a reason to change it.

757

[quote=“Der Bayer”]Yes, there are issues, mostly caused by BRCTool (choosing wrong files -> peskyboyz) and a wrong power/weight ratio check (I did not warn the people above the limit, including myself). For those people there is a little bit of time to fix the problems. If those who are a little bit over power-weight ratio don’t fix their car I will scale down their power figures to acceptable values. My car is completely over the top though because I calculated with kW/kg. Will be fixed.

The 4WD issue is not something I handle differently than the simulation in Automation, so I don’t see a reason to change it.[/quote]

It would save me something like 80 bucks to put somewhere else… but in all my tests in redistributing those 80 bucks I dont know if I saved time via the work… or a bug. So while aggravating it makes 0 difference other then bragging rights to being the only 4WD car.

I dont know how many people were around with the last BRC where me and someone else whos name escapes me went over submitted cars. (Packbat maybe… I cant remember names at all :confused: ). But that can be done again.

Someone has already sent a car but I have been to busy to look at it. I have been on the road a lot with my new insurance inspection contract. Turns out my Subaru is more the capable of blasting though blizzards at 80mph. Who knew.

758

Yeah, it was you and Packbat did them in 3-4 videos, and Killrob joined on one also. I think somebody else joined in on one, but can’t remember who it was.

759

Dang, bad timing for me, have to drop my mother off at the Airport at 13:00 EST
Guess I’ll know how I did whenever the youtube video is up.

760

Trump cards have been updated. 3 minor issues are remaining, but their power curves can be scaled down if I don’t get fixes in time.