As an amendment to the current rule set, I propose a mandate for the use of some kind of 3-way catalytic converter (either regular or high-flow), considering the era in which this CSR takes place.
What’s Harold’s opinion on SUVs?
he’s indifferent towards them
I’m assuming he doesn’t care about pickup trucks and (mini)vans either. But would he want a convertible of any kind (hard or soft top), either in the form of a body that actually is a convertible (as stated in-game), or a coupe made to look like a convertible through skillful fixture use? Also, what exterior colors does he like the most, and which ones does he like the least?
At any rate, this round has shades of CSR35 in terms of the kind of car our client wants - except that this time, the client is an aging, retired man who prefers sedans, coupes and convertibles.
good fucking luck making a van, but i would say a pickup truck would be a (slightly) more reasonable shitpost
if you’re making a convertible, make sure it is actually a convertible; i’ll probably have something to balance out the totally fair and realistic weight penalty
i already wrote about Harold’s transmission preferences in the About Harold section
im not sure if he prefers any specific colors, maybe just not some shit like hot pink?
Does Harold only have one children? What about grandkids?
no grandchildren, Trevor is his only child
just gonna leave it here
No interior requirements? Shocking! I’ll make sure you get an overly detailed interior now just to spite you.
I can’t decide between the Merit and the Cognoscenti.
The Merit is a brand new 04 model, the Cognoscenti is from 98, but was facelifted in 04 and features the same new generation of engines.
From an objective point of view, the Merit is the better car. But as I think a senior citizen with money won’t mind the somewhat dated appearance of a Cognoscenti and the less sporty driving but will surely appreciate having the longest (car) in the neighbourhood.
those definitely are cars
Understandable, but I’ll make an interior anyway if I feel like it.
Anyway, I have a test entry ready, and it comes in at $35k(!) after making full use of the tech pool allocation for this round - this despite using a V12 engine, luxury interior and satnav, glued aluminum chassis with aluminum bodywork, and semi-active dampers and sway bars.
Also, does the fixture below qualify as a US plate? Especially since it’s taller and narrower than a Euro plate.
I do have a feeling this amount of techpool will allow supercars to fit under the budget
Hey, just wanted to let you know that with current regs I can make a 16mpg 600hp V10 with svc under 2000, paired to a carbon-fiber-paneled semi-space-frame DWB/MultiLink convertible supercar with flow optimization and active aero. The only weirdly cheesy thing required was some use of negative quality on the tires (which is imo appropriate for cheap supercars anyways), but I’m by no means an expert engineer…
ok so since the rules look like an absolute cheesefest here are some polls to vote on
change the techpool?
- Keep total techpool limit the same
- Lower it for car and engine by 10
individual techpool limits?
- no limits
- limits for certain areas
- a maximum for all areas
change the max budget?
- Raise the budget
- Keep it the same
- Lower the budget
So I think its important to validate just how far advanced one company could even be ahead of another in tech. 3 years (thus 3 Techpool points) seems like the max one could expect from competitive companies. Seems like more than that, and they just license out the tech and pay royalties (like Mitsubishi’s balance shaft “solution” in Porsches.
Given that the last CSR was hosted in the 1990s and used a 30/50 techpool system, it would make sense for this CSR to still maintain the 35/55 techpool system as it is held in the 2000s, and it would make no sense to have a lower tolerance of technical innovation than an earlier round.
With that said the price cap should be lowered due to variables in real life that would influence the pricing compared to what we make in game. In addition, while the limits may let you push the limits, especially with numerical stats and the parts you can use, the story and inspirations of this round seem to indicate that focusing on implementing the newest/best technology or the best numbers may lead you badly astray and miss the whole point. Ownership experience seems to matter too. I think that’s the beauty of rounds like this (in its current 35/55 system), a somewhat lenient ruleset but with an emphasis on reasonable restraint.
Just because you can make something like that, doesn’t mean that it will be 1) what the client actually is looking for, or 2) even get past the realism rule or being binned for being minmaxed. Value is also a higher priority in the challenge, so maxing out the budget with expensive options probably won’t do so well.
Sure, but this is a rules deliberation period. I suspect the intent was not to have 600HP super-efficient make believe engines. Also, it did provide value… untuned out of the box stats had drivability over 75, comfort near 60, and prestige over 70. I think it’s pretty clear that we’re supposed to be making things akin to M3/M5, not Lambo-with-a-trunk. None of the posted inspirations are anything like what I was making in price range, but it was pretty close to the Viper in role.