Paris Motor Show 2016 [Automation Edition]

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Oh…well…looks like my car design skills need some work.

Seriously though, lots of excellent work in here.

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@Diavlo yes, the bar is getting higher and higher! Not only with the design, but also the presentation. Now, just imagine how it will be after the unreal update.

@DeusExMackia another great presentation from Erin. It is (and a remainder I need to work on the amwec immediately).

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My first time showing off my works. This was a car I made in the Lite Campaign then re-created in Sandbox. I’ll refrain from talking about it too much and let the pictures show it off. Enjoy and feedback is welcome!

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…specs for the Scarlet? WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME (thumbs up if you got that reference :wink:)

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The curtains drops and DSD’s CEO rev’s up the crowd.

“G’day Paris. Comment diable êtes-vous aujourd’hui? Êtes-vous baver sur les voitures hyper étonnantes qui ont été bien révélées DSD est là pour vous montrer que vous n’êtes pas obligé de me millionairre pour profiter d’une voiture hyper.
Présentation Le tout nouveau SARATOGA.
700hp, quatre sièges et l’argent le plus élevé de sécurité de qualité peut acheter. Nous à DSD sommes confiants que nous pouvons produire et vendre ces nouveaux SARATOGA de pour moins de $44449.”

The lights go out and the big screen comes to life, (warning 18+ NSFW)

The lights go dim again before flashing blue, green then gold strobe lights

“En l’absence de nouveaux retards je présente le retour de DSD au monde de l’automobile. Mesdames et Messieurs, mis ensemble vos mains pour le SARATOGA”


Avec 700 chevaux à partir d’une 5550cc aspiration naturelle v8, course à l’écoute des freins et de la suspension du SARATOGA soufflera vous l’esprit. Passez dix minutes sur une piste de course dans le monde et nous vous promettons que vous ne serez pas déçus. Il est aussi facile à conduire comme une berline familiale et avec quatre sièges de haute qualité, la voiture peut être utilisé pour les tâches scolaires.


juliusgraham5485 - DSD SARATOGA.zip (29.5 KB)

Production Version
juliusgraham5485 - DSD SARATOGA.zip (28.9 KB)

Il y a plus à venir Paris séjour près de la nouvelle FFM F.A.M.A.S produite par DSD sera révélé bientôt.


Mesdames et Messieurs, nous à DSD sont fiers d’annoncer que nous possédons maintenant français foriegn véhicules automobiles autrement connu sous le nom FFM. DSD a des liens étroits avec son cousins ​​français avec Darkshines maintenant à la retraite de l’armée française. Le Famas était la voiture de sorte FFM en elle son honneur nous à DSD ont refait FWD fois plus rapide dans le monde. Maintenant tout le monde peut posséder une petite voiture fiable familiale avec amaing économie et beaucoup de puissance pour une si petite voiture. À ce stade, nous ne voulons pas sortir une version de performance mais seul le temps nous dira s’il y a suffisamment d’intérêt pour la petite trappe chaude



juliusgraham5485 - ffm Famas mk7.zip (25.2 KB)


se sentir S’il vous plaît libre pour vérifier la nouvelle voiture. Nous allons prendre les commandes au motorshow à un prix de détail de 119,99.

Je vous remercie tous d’être venus et nous espérons vous voir l’année prochaine.

DSD and FFM
Honneur et FIDELTY


IN ENGLISH

"G’day Paris. How the hell are you today? Are you drooling over the amazing super cars that have been well proven DSD is here to show you that you do not have to millionairre to enjoy a hyper car.
The new presentation SARATOGA.
700hp, four seats and the highest quality of security money can buy. DSD we are confident that we can produce and sell these new SARATOGA of less than $ 44,449. "

“Without further delay I present the return of DSD in the automotive world. Ladies and gentlemen, put your hands together for the SARATOGA”

With 700 horsepower from a naturally aspirated 5550cc V8, race tuned brakes and suspension SARATOGA blow your mind. Spend ten minutes on a race track in the world and we promise you will not be disappointed. It is as easy to drive as a family sedan with four high-quality seats, the car can be used for school tasks.

There is more to come Paris stay near the new FFM F.A.M.A.S produced by DSD will be revealed soon.

Ladies and gentlemen, we DSD are proud to announce that we now possess French foriegn motor vehicle otherwise known as FFM. DSD has close ties with its French cousins ​​with Darkshines now retired from the French military. The Famas was THE FFM car DSD remade the once fastest FWD in the world. Now everyone can own a small family car with reliable amazing economy and a lot of power for such a small car. At this point, we do not want to release a version of performance but only time will tell if there is enough interest in the little hot hatch

feel Please free to check out the new car. We will take orders at motorshow at a retail price of 119.99.

Thank you all for coming and hope to see you next year.

DSD and FFM
Honor and FIDELTY


Ok so my markup Is 50% on the SARATOGA (these are the figures I use in lite campaign)
and the FAMAS is a 25% markup but is a very high volume car and is currently an entry (base) level trim

So the Saratoga production version

and the Famas production model

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@Sillyworld Ooh! Exciting! No rush whatsoever (even though I keep banging on about it), I’ve just been waiting to make this sort of car for so long 'tis all :slight_smile:

@ramthecowy No idea what was going on there. The Hide feature didnt want to show the pictures, so I got rid of it. Stats are there for all to see!

@Stratosphere_Cars That’ s a good first car. Definitely some things you could improve but this is the first car you’ve ever shown. Look forward to more work from you!

@Darkshine5 10/10 effort for getting that all into French, you deserve an award. You also deserve an award for that name…Saratoga. Love it!

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is it just me, or all but one of my cars is way underpriced?

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I had the same feeling when I saw the new Saminda C3 with prices very close to my Luna, which is considered to be way more premium…

The only thing is the C3 starting price is cheaper.

Ok, so we gonna build a car, and make it 2 times cheaper than the competitors, because well fok’em, right?

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I have never understood how people hope to actually make money with less than 50% mark up much less on a supercar. Heck my Entropy has 270% mark up and every car down to my cheapest has at least 50%.

Like y’all actually think you can charge 18K for decently equipped car and actually make money?

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100% extra as a rule for me

50% profit margin. That’s a lot. Mainstream manufacturers aim to have 5-7% profit across the range, premium ones have 10%. Those values are for overall profit over investment. Considering that the automation price should be enough to break even (no idea if it does or if it’s function), having about that much profit should be enough.

It pays to remember than squidhead’s and Deskyx’s companies are both very to extreme low volume companies. Same with GG, in real world terms I’d expect to have to mark my top range cars up to 600-800% just to remain viable because they’re so damn rare (well, the real figure we can find out once the engineering mechanics and tech pool etc. is put into place. That figure is there purely right now before engineering costs etc. are taken into account because sandbox doesn’t exactly allow you to generate a good estimate)

That’s a good rule to abide to.

Like seriously if there’s one habit this forum has that really ticks me off, is how they always claim to undercut IRL cars while offering more performance/luxury or what not while having the audacity to sell them at 0 or very tiny mark up. No fuckin shit its cheaper youre selling cars at prices that after all the manufacturing, engineering, not to mention establishing dealer networks and legalisation and emissions testing will make you lose money.

And @strop Dimension’s not a low volume company :smile: We just make too much sports cars.

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is that to say you make lots, but just sell poorly? :laughing:

It isn’t only profit margin - you need to include all R&D, marketing, tooling and every possible other costs. That’s why even aiming at 5% profit we should set the markup in Automation way higher.

(and I admit I’m setting it way too low in Zavirs, like 20-30% for normal ones and 50-100 for sports/special/limited/whatnot models)

You’re the one to talk about selling well :smile: Where’d all that R&D budget come from? :laughing:

I follow the markup guide killrob shared for the new competitors pack for most of my cars.

My besta-fera should cost something around 2 million dollars (and I’m still loosing millions of moneys in engineering and developing) The price the game offers is too low, even at ridiculous markups.


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how dare you insinuate whatever it was you were insinuating! We’re a legitimate business! It’s just that the capital and assets that generate our equity from negative operational budget is privately owned and subject to confidentiality! We do not engage in industrial espionage or patent circumvention at all! :rage: :triumph: :joy:

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