Oh, about the pro street version, you should see the torque curve of that one… but yeah seriously Manche, what kinda mileage should we be aiming for?
I’m slightly concerned that I’m using a big block if fuel mileage is an issue. The original Boss 432 pushed a huge muscle car around getting ~10 US MPG, but I don’t know what it will do when I tune it to the moon. I also want to be conservative with my fuel mixture and cam profile if I need to keep it at a certain MPG.
as a rough estimate, the car (preferably) should be able to travel 800km with a full tank (You wouldn’t want to be stranded in the Atacama desert would you?), the tank size will be given in accordance to the wheelbase size, the smallest would be 50 Liters (for dinky 2.0m wheelbase cars) and the and 100 Liters for 3.0M wheelbase landbarges.
So if my quick calculations are correct (I’m in law school; we don’t do math.), that equals somewhere between ~19-38 US MPG depending on the fuel tank size.
Ugh. Now I’m regretting going for the whole “small car, big engine” strategy. I mean, I can knock together an alternate vehicle, but… then again, is that exactly fair to change my plan this late in the game just because I’ve found out there’s no way I’m going to make the trip without a trunk full of gas cans?
I’m on board with you. I’d be amazed if my car can get 19 MPG and that would require the huge fuel tank and a really lean fuel mixture if I wanted to make any use of my displacement.
I can get 19 MPG, but my wheelbase is something like 2.3 meters. Which means I need a lot more than 19 MPG. Now I’ve got an alternate vehicle I was working on as an experiment, and the upgraded engine can get almost 19 MPG in a massive car. Otherwise, I have to run the Captain like it is, which means I’m going to be continually stranded due to running out of gas. I pulled a typical American strategy of a little car with a nice healthy 5 liter V8 in it. If I’d have known I’d need more than 30 MPG, I’d have built a micro car with no horsepower and pulled the strategy of passing everyone who’s waiting for gas.
Well guess I can say good bye to throttle response…
the progression between small car and fuel car size would be lineal between the 2 points so a 2.5 m wheelbase car would get a 75 L tank
fuel tank size will be according to this function
FTS(in liters)= 50(wheelbase in meters)-50
This fuel economy is once again RECCOMENDED! you may have gas guzzler, but you would have to roll a 10 sided virtual dice and the worse your autonomy is the hugher chances of not finding a fuel station and thus having to call the rescue van, that van will be carrying tools and fuel as well being capable of towing even the most humongous of landbarges.
another choice would be HYPERMILING your way to the next stage but there may be a penalty if the other will have to wait for you more more than it supposed to.
naturally the first to arrive to the next stage will get points but will be exposing itself to an accident or emptying the tank prematurely and thus getting stuck on the side of the road .
What??? Most cars in this day and age don’t have that range on mixed consumption! Me thinks I’m going to have to gamble quite a bit… 
Wait…800km on a single tank? That’s…500 miles! That’s going to need a very large tank for anything that isn’t a Toyota Corolla! Maybe I’m just too American for this competition…
do you guys want me to reduce the distance from 800km to something smaller?
I can do the 800 kilometers if I change my car design to make use of a larger fuel tank. Can’t say it’ll be super fast, but I’d hold up better against penalties. It’s only a touch slower than the Storm Captain around the Test Track, so it should be just about as competitive. Otherwise, if I’m not allowed to change my car design, I’ll run with the Captain and eat the gas mileage penalties.
Manche: it depends on just how the penalties balance out, I suppose! I’m willing to go with 800 but I’ll be fairly sure to have to roll the dice on a regular basis… I would suggest 500-600 as a more realistic estimate.
Good point. i think its fair to bring the “safe” autonomy distance down 600, that would enable some more powerful cars.
However I was able to make a large coupe with 451 HP (DI MOHV 6.2L NA v8) make 8.9 km/l and have a top speed of 294.7 Km/h and reaches the 100 Km/h in 4.9 seconds thanks to +10 engine +15 aero and some other nifty tricks which would be allowed in the modified cars
by your own rules we can’t use direct injection or modern pushrods… So those are your crate engines huh?
After a bit of bashing around, I made a large (3m wheelbase) vehicle that can get 8.1 KM/L (feels odd to use that and not my native Miles per Gallon, but it’s for a comparison), pushes 270 km/h, has over 450 horsepower, and doesn’t pull tricks with aero, nor equipment exclusively available to the crate engines. (using DOHC and MP-EFI, but as I’m competing, I’m obviously entitled to keeping some secrets in testing.) Aero is at +0, no undertrays. Nothing in the engine passes +10 quality (I stopped at +9 when I pushed things up).
Is it doable to get the 800 km number? Yes. Was it easy to do? No. It required me to scrap plans to run the Storm Captain and build a car with a 3 meter wheelbase in order to remain what would be considered competitive. That being said, if I’m allowed to switch vehicles, I certainly will, as I’m sure with a bit of effort in tweaks and tuning, this thing should remain rather competitive in this challenge. If I have to run the Captain instead, however, I don’t stand much chance being competitive given that I built the small car with the big engine as the initial plan.
so after reading the thread.
i looked to google for the longest distance between gas station on the world and found this forum
aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=5335.0
if you want to be realistic it says there the longest distance between gas station is 500km in a single stretch.
but on the first post, the road seems to be next to each other.
and in the almost impossibly unfortunate event that the only gas station between those 2 roads is broken down
that’s 802 KMs that you have to travel without refuelling
so i’m voting for a reasonable 500-600km longest stretch.
i also have a question. are we all be going on raved road, or mixed roads? might have to consider the offroad part.
also… i’m assuming, mod are allowed right?
[quote=“koolkei”]so after reading the thread.
i looked to google for the longest distance between gas station on the world and found this forum
aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=5335.0
if you want to be realistic it says there the longest distance between gas station is 500km in a single stretch.
but on the first post, the road seems to be next to each other.
and in the almost impossibly unfortunate event that the only gas station between those 2 roads is broken down
that’s 802 KMs that you have to travel without refuelling
so i’m voting for a reasonable 500-600km longest stretch.
i also have a question. are we all be going on raved road, or mixed roads? might have to consider the offroad part.
also… i’m assuming, mod are allowed right?[/quote]
I am running the steam version so mods are fine, and we are going to travel on paved roads for the most part, though some of those roads may be in poor condition
yes, I am liteally yanking an engine out of a modern FMU, machine it as best as possible and put it into the 1969 coupe. my car won’t be scoring points anyway